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Offline Shlomo

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Is Chaim going to do a video of this attack?  I also wonder what the government will do to go after the muslims who were behind this attack.

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The M.O. of shooting people at a restaurant terrace is similar to the Paris attacks, too bad the terrorists weren't permanently "neutralized".

Bibi's Gov't will probably heal them in hospital with kids of Hamas' leaders, while torturing Jewish kids and keeping them locked up without charges.

Rav Kahane ZK"L knew the only way to prevent further bloodshed was to expel the arab amalekite enemy from Eretz Israel and time has proven him right.

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I just read this great article. A must read.

http://observer.com/2016/06/murder-in-tel-aviv-terrorism-must-have-consequences/
Murder in Tel Aviv: Terrorism Must Have Consequences
By Abraham H. Miller
6/9/2016

The carnage of innocents in a restaurant in Tel Aviv is only the latest in a long series of terror attacks on Israelis. The next act of barbarism is only a matter of time, as inevitable as it will be brutal.

The acts are devoid of meaningful political consequence. In the history of warfare, no regime ever fell to terrorism. Only two non-colonial regimes ever fell to guerrilla warfare.

Terrorism only promotes the victims to harden their resolve. The once flourishing Israeli peace movement is a shadow of its former self. It was beaten into the ground by the various intifadas.

The mendacity of the attacks is heightened by their being celebrated in the streets of Gaza and the Palestinian Territories, just as were the attacks on America on 9/11.

Israel regrettably treats the attacks as if they were acts of criminal violence. They are not. An entire social, cultural, religious, and political infrastructure resulted in four pieces of human scum calmly ordering food and then opening fire on people they only knew as Jews.

These attacks must be seen for what they are—acts of war. They must be responded to as acts of war.

Apprehending and killing the perpetrators, who are celebrated as heroes and whose families will receive stipends courtesy of the American taxpayer, will solve nothing.  These attacks and others like it must be seen for what they are—acts of war. They must be responded to as acts of war.

Terrorism continues as long as people see some sort of profit in it. For the Palestinians, the profit is keeping alive a dying movement that no one really cares about, except perhaps for a misguided American president and “snowflakes” on American college campuses. The turmoil in the Middle East far overshadows the Palestinian movement. Without American and European funds, without UNWRA, the Palestinians would have to find a way to accept a Jewish state alongside a Palestinian one—something they refuse to do.

As long as refugees are paid to be refugees, Palestinian refugees will continue into yet a fifth generation, an unprecedented status in the history of humanity.  As long as the American taxpayer continues to fund the Palestinian Authority, which in turn openly funds and rewards terrorists, terrorism will continue.

If you want to stop terrorism, you make it so immensely costly that the costs outweigh the benefits. You attack the infrastructure that creates terrorism and engage in total war against it.

Yes, the Europeans and the Obama administration will condemn such actions even as the unelected president of the PA cannot mouth the words to condemn the barbarism of his “heroes” and is already looking for a school or playground to be named after those who have heroically shot unarmed innocents.

For every fallen Israeli, build a settlement in his or her name. Get rid of UNWRA. Let the American taxpayers know that their dollars reward and sustain the families of murderers. Start treating this attack as an attack by the Palestinian Authority against Israel, not as the actions of four individuals.

When the spokespersons at the Department of State inevitably call for restraint, remind them that Israel will exercise the same restraint in the Palestinian Authority that America exercised in Afghanistan after 9/11.

Stop trying to win the hearts and minds of Europeans who call those who kill Frenchmen “terrorists” and those who kill Jews “gunmen.”

Israeli is a nation state in the Middle East. It must react now as any Muslim state in the Middle East would react to the same circumstances. That is something the Palestinians will understand.

Abraham H. Miller is an emeritus professor of political science, University of Cincinnati, and a distinguished fellow with the Haym Salomon Center. @Salomoncenter

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Can anyone tell me why Netanyahu is letting Israel hospitals treat these Palestinian Nazis behind the Tel Aviv massacre.
Great article about this.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17736#.ViiWC36rTGE
Op-Ed: The insanity of treating terrorists
We choose to ignore an internationally validated distinction that puts terrorists outside the Third Geneva Convention.
By Rabbi Benjamin Blech,
October 22, 2015

Full disclosure: My pain at the ongoing news of stabbings and murders of innocents in Israel reached an unbearable level when I learned that a member of our family, Rabbi Yeshayahu Krishevsky, 60, was mowed down and brutally butchered with a meat cleaver in Jerusalem.

He was but one of many who were heartlessly massacred or critically wounded over the last several weeks. In some of these instances the terrorists were slain before they could continue their acts of carnage. In others, however, they were merely wounded. And what followed in every occurrence is part of a pattern that is simply beyond my comprehension.

Have you seen the picture of Hassan Manasra, the young Arab teenager who stabbed and critically wounded an Israeli boy who was riding his bicycle in Pisgat Zeev? Hassan, who “moderate” Palestinian President Abbas claimed was cruelly executed for no reason in an incendiary speech to his people, is resting comfortably in a bed in Hadassah Hospital. He is alive and well, provided with free food as well as the best medical care available - as are all terrorists who managed to survive their murderous killing sprees.

Yes, we are a very compassionate people. If those who come to murder us do not succeed at first, we will nurse them back to health so that they can try once again to carry out their self-declared goals. And we call that sanity!

Eli Bein, the general director of Magen David Adom, Israel's version of the Red Cross, asserted that MDA medics will treat terrorists first if they are in worse condition than their victims! So the lives of victims don’t even take precedence over their murderers. And we call that sanity!

Charles Sprung, director of the general intensive care unit at Hadassah in Ein Karem, had this to say:

“We took care of a terrorist here many years ago who was later freed in a prisoner exchange. He gave an interview in which he was asked how he was treated in the Israeli hospital and he said he greatly appreciated it, and imagined he could not have received better treatment anywhere in the Arab world.  Asked afterward if he intended to leave his terror ways behind, he said: ‘No. One thing has nothing to do with the other.’”

Of course, one thing has nothing to do with the other. Kind and civilized treatment is what the Arab world expects from us. But killing Jews is the goal to which they have committed their lives – and for which they are happily prepared to die. Yet, we continue to act with unappreciated saintliness even when it proves to be suicidal – and we call that sanity!

International law differentiates between patients, prisoners of war, and terrorists, defining the latter as “unlawful combatants” who are not protected by the Third Geneva Convention, unlike prisoners of war. Yet, even as we face an existential threat to Israel’s survival, we choose to ignore an internationally validated distinction. And we call that sanity!

Hadas Sapir, a nurse in the department of Alon Pikarsky, acting head of surgery at Hadassah, recounts how Maher Hamdi Hashalamun – the terrorist who stabbed and killed 26-year-old Dalia Lemkus as she waited for a lift home on November 10 of last year near the settlement of Alon Shevut southwest of Jerusalem – was brought to Hadassah after being shot by a security guard. He soon began complaining about the service and never thanked any of the staff, she says. One of the nurses taking care of him sat down outside his room at one point and just cried, Sapir says. “We are human beings, of course, and Israeli citizens.”

It was King Solomon, the wisest of all men, who summed it up in a pithy saying in the book of Ecclesiastes: “Do not be overly righteous.”
When asked if he believed that doctors in the Gaza Strip would act similarly when faced with an Israeli soldier brought into their hospital, Pikarsky answers immediately: “Without a doubt,” he says. “I am sure they would also honor their professional obligations.” Proving without a doubt how even the most intelligent doctor could be the most naïve and politically unaware dupe - totally ignorant of how Israelis have been treated by their enemies.

Compassion is a wonderful trait. Yet, Judaism, which may well claim to be the first to teach its value for mankind, was also wise enough to proclaim that “those who are too kind to the wicked are too cruel to the righteous." Kindness has its limits. As we are instructed, “And you shall eliminate evil from your midst.”

It was King Solomon, the wisest of all men, who summed it up in a pithy saying in the book of Ecclesiastes: “Do not be overly righteous.” It was Jewish theology which pointed out that turning the other cheek makes the victim himself responsible for the second blow.

Even Dr. Pikarsky, who feels we have no choice but to treat terrorists with the very best medical care, admits we may have gone overboard. “I actually think we sometimes overcompensate, and go above and beyond when it comes to treating terrorists. We have this desire to show ourselves, and show the world, that we are a light unto the nations.”

Please don't misunderstand me. I am not making a case for withholding medical treatment from our enemies. We need to provide this care not for their sake but for ours – to retain our humanity and to prevent us from sinking to their barbaric level. But surely common sense ought to remind us that medical triage must also include a moral component. As politically incorrect as it seems at first blush, all lives are not equal. Jewish victims take precedence over Arab murderers. Those who come to kill us forfeit claim to comparable care and concern. To overcompensate when we treat terrorists at the expense of our own people in order to prove to the world our ethical superiority is more than sinful – it is suicidal.

Indeed, it is a nice thing for us to fulfill our mission as Jews and to be a light unto the nations. But in order to do so we need to survive. For that, we dare not say "we will be righteous even if it kills us" – for it might do just that.


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Another great article which is right on the money.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/197533#.VZQJqflViko
'Don't Catch Them, Kill Them'
Moshe Zar, whose son was murdered in Samaria, says IDF commanders need to relearn what 'war' means.
By Benny Toker
First Publish: 7/1/2015

Following the murder of Malachi Moshe Rosenfeld, Moshe Zar, 77, a famous figure in Israel's settlement movement, passionately explained to Arutz Sheva on Tuesday that the IDF needs to start killing terrorists instead of trying to catch them.

"The answer to all of these terror attacks is that whoever carries out a terror attack has to be eliminated on the spot,” he said forcefully. “Not to be caught or interrogated – the first thing that needs to be done is to kill him. The terrorist who carries out an attack needs to know that he is going to die. These are the instructions that need to be given to IDF soldiers. There's no need for firing in the air or asking for a password. When they give that kind of order, we'll reach a solution.”

"This is not a youth movement,” he explained. “It's war. A terrorist has to be eliminated and if the commanders do not know this, let them go back to school and learn what war means."

"Whoever comes to kill you, must be killed. If you killed him before he killed, you won. If you didn't manage to kill him before he killed, do it later. Don't catch him and interrogate him and try to find out who sent him. Don't put him in jail, which is the best recreational facility in the world anyway.”

Zar explained that this holds true regardless of whether the terrorist is caught in the act of committing an attack or only chased down later.

He expressed outrage and exasperation with orders that say terrorists cannot be shot if they turn their back on soldiers. "Are we sick in the head?", he asked, and warned that if the IDF does not relearn the art of war soon, it will be defeated.

Zar, a wealthy landowner and land dealer in Karnei Shomron, was a member of the elite 101st commando unit under Ariel Sharon in 1956 and lost an eye in combat. He was also a member of the Jewish underground cell that planted an explosive in the car of the Arab mayor of Shechem in 1980.

Attacked by an Arab in 1983, Zar survived despite being hacked with an axe and shot at. His son, Gilad, was murdered by terrorists in 2001.

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Netanyahu is tough when it comes to destroying Jewish homes, synagogues and preventing Jews from living in East Jerusalem.
Netanyahu is toothless when it comes to defeating Arab and Iranian terrorists.

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Stop the remittance of PA tax funds. Stop water deliveries to the PA and Hamas. Cut electricity to the PA and Hamas.  Stop "Palestinian" workers from working in Israel....the murders will stop when Israel wants to stop appeasing these Palestinian barbarians and starts thinking how to defeat them.

The simple things Israel must do.
Lock down All Arabs in area A and B in Judea and Samaria. Lock down all Arabs in Jerusalem.
Arm all Jews with a shoot to kill to policy against Arab and Iranian terrorists.
Stop treating Arab terrorists in Israeli hospitals.  These terrorists should be shot dead.
Gat a Death penalty for Arab terrorists in Israeli jails.
Remove all Arabs in Israel who are allied to Hamas, Fatah and Hezbollah.
Start building like crazy for Jews in East Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria.
Allow Chaim Ben Pesach to return to Israel and run for the Knesset.

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Good stuff Dan193.

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These muslamic terrorists must be provided punishment by hanging to the nearest pole.
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Why did this get reported as Muslims wearing hasidic garb?  The video showed two men in fancy suits and ties, no kippa, no fake peyot, no hasidic clothing whatsoever.

CNN reported it that they dressed up as hasidim.  They did not mention the word arab a single time in their story.  Cnn also claimed that an Israeli police official told them the terrorists wore hasidic garb!

Is the Israeli govt trying to help US media obscure who perpetrated arab terror to cover it up as they " negotiate " for "peace deal" with the terrorists' leaders?
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No where the media has mentioned the arab or muslamic or their names. It is a shameful hush up everywhere with the Jewish dresses. What nonsense. It is not a leftist media, rather now it has converted in to a muslamic media.
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Great posts after Camera article how CNN lies about Israel.
http://blog.camera.org/archives/2015/10/clownish_news_network_writes_i.html