Leftist American kills Dutch student with ax

[mord]

because he could'nt find soldier           

Disturbed anti-war protester can't find soldier, kills civilian with axe instead 
 
Sep 11 12:52 PM US/Eastern
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In Dutch: 'He hates soldiers, and says that the army kills people, so it would be legitimate if he were also to kill someone...'

 
  AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - A U.S. citizen has confessed to using an axe to kill a Dutch student after failing to find a soldier to attack, his lawyer said Tuesday.
The suspect, Carlos Hartmann, 41, of Tecumseh, Mich., has confessed to the Sept. 8 killing on a train platform in the southern city of Roosendaal, defence lawyer Peter Gremmen said.

Gremmen said Hartmann wanted to punish the Netherlands for its support of the war in Iraq.

Hartmann appeared before a judge Tuesday and was ordered held for another two weeks for investigation.

"He hates soldiers, and says that the army kills people, so it would be legitimate if he were also to kill someone . . . from the American military - or from its NATO allies," Gremmen said in a telephone interview.

When he failed to find a soldier at the Roosendaal train station, "he got such a crazy, disturbed idea that he killed a civilian," Gremmen said.

Hartmann did not attempt to escape and was arrested shortly after the killing.

Dutch prosecutors confirmed that the suspect had confessed but did not identify him or his victim, in keeping with Dutch practice.

Under the Dutch legal system, Hartmann was not required to enter a plea Tuesday.

Prosecution spokeswoman Martine Pilaar said her office was taken aback by the defence lawyer's willingness to disclose details of his case.

But Gremmen said he was only confirming details published by the local newspaper BN/De Stem. The paper's source was not named, and police declined to comment.

"I was also surprised when I saw the paper; I thought, this must be coming from the investigation," the lawyer said.

Gremmen said Hartmann has lived in the Netherlands since 2002, supporting himself with English editing work for a Japanese company, which he could do by computer, and that he had no fixed address.

He said Hartmann had consented to undergo psychological testing, and was now "terribly sorry for his deed."

The victim, identified as Thijs Geers, was waiting for a train and had no connection with the suspect or the military. Online condolence registers in the Netherlands were flooded with messages of sympathy for him and his family.

BN/De Stem quoted a witness who asked to remain anonymous as describing Hartmann as striking the victim in the back of the head with the axe. It also quoted an unidentified family member from the United States as saying Hartmann has suffered from emotional problems since his early 20s.

"It's a sad story," Gremmen said. "But I'm glad he's admitted what he's done and that he's sorry for it."
 

   


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[Hail Columbia]

Liberalism really is a mental disorder.  I wonder if that nutty hippie will be able to plea insanity?

[mord]

Liberalism really is a mental disorder.  I wonder if that nutty hippie will be able to plea insanity?

I hope not but Holland is very liberal

[kellymaureen]

He was a liberal sissy...not so much he couldnt FIND a soldier as he couldnt face a soldier trained to fight, perhaps armed as well, so he went for an unarmed, unsuspecting civillian.   

[Ehud]

What an insane savage beast.  An axe to the head of an innocent person!  That's even cruel by Muslim standards.  Only a leftist could sacrifice a human life like that to make some sort of a "message" however retarded it is.  Too bad people are able to distinguish between the savage murder of an innocent person, and the killing of an enemy in a war.  Some people don't have the brains or common sense to make that distinction though. 

[RationalThought110]

What an insane savage beast.  An axe to the head of an innocent person!  That's even cruel by Muslim standards.  Only a leftist could sacrifice a human life like that to make some sort of a "message" however retarded it is.  Too bad people are able to distinguish between the savage murder of an innocent person, and the killing of an enemy in a war.  Some people don't have the brains or common sense to make that distinction though. 

The billionaire, Marc Cuban, is unable to make the distinction.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...Maybe he's black because he has an English last name but a Spanish first name...."

Many Dutch men have Spanish names such as "Carlos"; probably dating back to the era of Holland's wars with Spain.