Napoleon

[RationalThought110]

I'm reading a little about how Napolean treated Jewish people during the French Revolution.

[RationalThought110]

Why did Napolean give the Jews "rights"?

[EagleEye]

The first invader of Russia was kind to Jews, assimilation was the result, the second invader of Russia went the opposite direction...it seems a Jewish state is the best way to insure Jews, a living part of cultural history, are preserved.

[MassuhDGoodName]

The "reason" Napoleon gave Jews rights, was because they had none.  They were viewed as an alien nation minority, unassimilable, within a majority homogenous host nation.

Of interest, is that the Lubavitcher Rebbe chose to remain within the Tzar of Russia's rule, as a despised minority of "aliens", rather than accept Napoleon's offer.

Why?  Because Napoleon offered a deal:  Renounce your self-concept of being "The Jewish Nation in Exile" in exchange for the Napoleonic Law recognizing you as a French "ethnic" minority group with full recognition and rights of other Frenchmen.  The Rebbe realized this would mean an "acceptance" of Exile and abandonment of our hope for Return and Moshiach.

It should also be noted that Joseph Stalin, the supreme Jew-hater, created an artificial "Soviet Jewish State" in Siberia, claiming that Yiddish & Hebrew were recognized languages along with Russian, and he "strongly encouraged" all Jews in the USSR to "move" to their new "homeland" (most on cattlecars).  In actuality, of course, it was simply a Gulag prison to kill off as many Jews as he could, but Stalin's scheme was twofold:  The USSR promoted the Soviet Jewish State in world propaganda in an attempt to deceive the world into believing that "The Worker's Paradise" gave full rights and freedoms to all (even the Jew), and also arrested and imprisoned all "Zionists" (Jews wishing to leave the USSR & Return to their own homeland)...torturing and killing them, under the legal fiction that "because the USSR included the only true authentic Soviet Jewish Republic as one of its states, any Jews who refused to become atheist Communists and move there were obviously Enemies of the Soviet Motherland, and therefore it was only proper for the Worker's State to execute all refusing to assimilate.

[Ultra Requete]

The Napoleon's laws lead to simillar resulsts like in America; The french Jews are educated. law abiding French citisens; but they're still atacked by neo-nazis and mainly by "youths" muslim rubble the socialist voted by Jews in eighties brought. The American reformed Jewry will be first on target list of swartza and wetbacks; depite all of this support they gave to ACLU and ADl andother liberal pro imigration agenda.

[EagleEye]

Jews will face attacks from immigrants, whites in general will.  Because Jews tend to be rich and successful, they will probably face attacks out of proportion.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...Because Jews tend to be rich and successful, they will probably face attacks out of proportion..."

You're missing the key element as to why Jews living in Exile are the first to be attacked wherever and whenever a social order unravels:

PLEASE TAKE NOTE

Savage barbarians always know that the Jew is the easiest of prey.

Jews prefer family, intellectual growth, sobriety, and hard work ... making the world a better place for their children than it was for themselves; and have always despised weapons, violence, and uncivil behavior.

Add to this the fact that Jews are feared and held in suspicion by the non-Jewish majority in their host nations, whose spiritual level is incapable of understanding how it is that Jews prosper and advance far out of proportion to their small numbers, and irregardless of whether or not their host country affords opportunity to its citizenry.

These Jewish characteristics are the real reason criminals and barbarians of every ilk have always known that when they go to attack the Jew they will be attacking an unarmed, civilized people with none to stand in their defense.

[Ultra Requete]

In traditional anti-semitism the Jews were despise becouse of their sucsess rate or their religion; ironicly low lewel sporadic persecution and discrimination helped Jews maintain  their unique identity; But for nazis and their oh so eager disciples nazi muslims every Jew must be killed; In Poland there were many hardworking but poor religius hasidic jews; unlike their assimilated brothers from big cities they were left alone by Poles; But nether the less the German Nazis Ocupiers rounded and killed in Sobibor, Blezec and Treblinka gass chambers 90% percent of them (Birkenau was for European Jews) all Polish Jews; secular and religius; assimilated and chasidic; judaist and converted to christianity; That's why Israeli Haredim and NK types are in error;  claiming not to be zionist and not supporting Jewish state will not save them. 

[RationalThought110]

The Napoleon's laws lead to simillar resulsts like in America; The french Jews are educated. law abiding French citisens; but they're still atacked by neo-nazis and mainly by "youths" muslim rubble the socialist voted by Jews in eighties brought. The American reformed Jewry will be first on target list of swartza and wetbacks; depite all of this support they gave to ACLU and ADl andother liberal pro imigration agenda.

But today's French Jews are mostly Traditional because most French Jews today come from North Africa, from the former French colonies, the same place French Muzzies come from.

I thought the Jews in Northern Africa were the ones who Rabbi Kahane advocated for them to go to Israel?

[Ultra Requete]

The Napoleon's laws lead to simillar resulsts like in America; The french Jews are educated. law abiding French citisens; but they're still atacked by neo-nazis and mainly by "youths" muslim rubble the socialist voted by Jews in eighties brought. The American reformed Jewry will be first on target list of swartza and wetbacks; depite all of this support they gave to ACLU and ADl andother liberal pro imigration agenda.

But today's French Jews are mostly Traditional because most French Jews today come from North Africa, from the former French colonies, the same place French Muzzies come from.

I thought the Jews in Northern Africa were the ones who Rabbi Kahane advocated for them to go to Israel?

They're still sizable Jewish comunity in Marocco.

[RationalThought110]

They're still sizable Jewish comunity in Marocco.

Are they similar to the ones who lived in Ethiopia?

[Ultra Requete]

They're still sizable Jewish comunity in Marocco.

Are they similar to the ones who lived in Ethiopia?

No they're sepahredic Jews; not black jews.

[RationalThought110]

They're still sizable Jewish comunity in Marocco.

What would you estimate the size of the community to be?

[RationalThought110]

How did Napolean end up falling out of power.  Once he was no longer in power, did France still occupy or control other countries or was that only part of the French Revolution?