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Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« on: September 23, 2007, 11:30:42 PM »
I've been trying to get to the bottom of who is behind the New World Order agenda. I keep reading things and following leads but so far I haven't figured it out.

Is there some sort of shadow government thing going on?

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2007, 12:09:48 AM »
Research the following:

Cecil Rhodes

Rockefeller

The Origins of the Illuminati

Origins of FreeMasonry

Bilderbergers

In a nutshell, the absolute richest and most powerful "old money" families on the planet want to consolidate their control and rule over the entire Earth, destroy all nation states and end the concept of national sovereignty, institute a totally amoral "One World Government dictatorship, eliminate most of the population, destroy all religion except some form or other of "New-Age" paganism, and rule as demi-gods; controlling all the Earth's resources solely for the benefit of super-rich elite aristocracies.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 12:54:33 AM »
Marzutra first posted this link, I later posted it again, and for your benefit, here it is once again.

I can not stress just how important a work it is in explaining the true nature and horror of the New World Order proponents:

[url][http://philologos.org/__eb-trs//url]

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2007, 03:52:56 AM »
The Bavarian Iluminati; leadership of free masonary and spiritualists like Helena Blawatzky; satanists like Alister Crowley; and ultimatly The fallen angel, satan himself.
Jeremiah 8:11-17

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12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2007, 08:59:51 AM »
I think it's socialists, communists and globalists.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2007, 02:48:21 PM »
Shalom MassuhD, Is that the link to "The Rainbow Swastika" - Hannah Newman? 

You are all correct.  If you delve into reseach they are all linked via ideological agenda or common goals.  CFR-Trilateral, Fabian, Bilderberg, Rhodes/Round Table, Club of Rome, Vatican, Skull & Bones (Illuminati), etc. The heads of the various Communist/Socialist movements. 

The personalities you mentioned above Alister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, New Age, Alice Baily, Stewart Chamberlan, Alfred Rosenberg, Margarette Meade, Marx etc. etc. are all very applicable as they are the "Preists" of their specific ideological movements by they are not those major players of the NWO/Globalist machine.  If I were to put money on it I'd go with what all the rest of you stated; the super rich or ultra-capitalists who look for total monopolies within their industries with a goal being their ruling a "politbureau" sort of speak. 

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You will see, and read, that many of these personalities were those the same that founded The League of Nations, United Nations, behind the EU, ACLU, CFR and all the rest...   ;)
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2007, 03:35:22 AM »
Research the following:

Cecil Rhodes

Rockefeller

The Origins of the Illuminati

Origins of FreeMasonry

Bilderbergers

In a nutshell, the absolute richest and most powerful "old money" families on the planet want to consolidate their control and rule over the entire Earth, destroy all nation states and end the concept of national sovereignty, institute a totally amoral "One World Government dictatorship, eliminate most of the population, destroy all religion except some form or other of "New-Age" paganism, and rule as demi-gods; controlling all the Earth's resources solely for the benefit of super-rich elite aristocracies.

Don't forget the Rothchilds.

Central banks of the world are privately run institutions.  Those national debts are funneling trillions of dollars in interest payments to someone.  When the media says someone like Bill Gates is the richest man in the world, or that Mexican telecommunications tycoon, don't believe it.  Their wealth is pocket change compared to the international bankers.
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"Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.  "So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress.  "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.  "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."
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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2007, 04:49:46 PM »
That is certainly true.  You might read the book or watch the video called "Creature from Jekyl Island" about the international banking establishment and the Federal Reserve system. 

In the Rothschild's official biography it outlines that their 4 banking families in Germany, England, France and Italy were worth around $12.5 billion dollars in 1850.  The Rockefeller biograhpy states that John D. was worth 5 billion in 1910.  Now if one looks at these numbers, granted that both haven't lost money, Forbes Magazine ranks only one Rockefeller as 1.8 Billion or something like that and there are no Rothschilds listed. 

Granted names change but in my opinion their money, like the Ford, Carnege etc. are stuffed inside tax shelters and so called "charity" foundations which are tax exempt.

Granted most of these wealthy people like Gates, the Oil Sheiks and other are now also working with and partaking in the International banking. 

Of course one must also look at the ex-royalty of Europe as well the Windsor family of England.  The Rothschilds are certainly the most tossed about name solely due to both their potential vast wealth but the anti-Jew "protocol" conspiracy "world domination" get the Jew wack job theories..
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2007, 05:10:52 PM »
That is certainly true.  You might read the book or watch the video called "Creature from Jekyl Island" about the international banking establishment and the Federal Reserve system. 

In the Rothschild's official biography it outlines that their 4 banking families in Germany, England, France and Italy were worth around $12.5 billion dollars in 1850.  The Rockefeller biograhpy states that John D. was worth 5 billion in 1910.  Now if one looks at these numbers, granted that both haven't lost money, Forbes Magazine ranks only one Rockefeller as 1.8 Billion or something like that and there are no Rothschilds listed. 

Granted names change but in my opinion their money, like the Ford, Carnege etc. are stuffed inside tax shelters and so called "charity" foundations which are tax exempt.

Granted most of these wealthy people like Gates, the Oil Sheiks and other are now also working with and partaking in the International banking. 

Of course one must also look at the ex-royalty of Europe as well the Windsor family of England.  The Rothschilds are certainly the most tossed about name solely due to both their potential vast wealth but the anti-Jew "protocol" conspiracy "world domination" get the Jew wack job theories..

I've seen the creature from Jekyll Island, that was a good watch.  I do shy away a bit from the Jewish conspiracy theories, but the bankers aren't just Jewish, people from all around the world have been pulled in.  I'm sure you're right that people like Gates get noticed and pulled in because anyone that wealthy should be working with them and their agenda rather than possibly disrupting their plans for a one world socialist government.

I was a bit skeptical about the whole Rothchild thing, but there is too much documentation to ignore and I've never found one document that offers a contrary view.  The story of Nathan Rothchild is very interesting.  He was the brightest of the Rothchild boys and headed the London branch of the banking system.  He used intelligence gathering to improve his position.  He was personally at the Battle of Waterloo to observe the outcome and payed a captain a very handsome sum to sail him back to England in very stormy weather.  Getting back to London before news of England's victory had circulated, he used agents to start selling off stocks to make it look like the French had won, this started a stampede of selling and crashed prices.  He then preceded to use his agents to buy back everything at a bargain and greatly increased his wealth in one day.  The same has been suggested of the stock market crash in 29.  The Federal Reserve did the opposite of what it was supposed to do and contributed to the crash. 
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Zechariah 12:9-10

"Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.  "So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress.  "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.  "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."
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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2007, 05:24:24 PM »
Multinational corporations are behind the globalist agenda. Borders, nationalism, religious devotion and human rights stand in the way of greater profits and power for them.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2007, 10:56:36 AM »
Of course you are right RationalThough.  The story Yesh puts forward about the Rothschild capitalizing off of the early notice of Nepolians failure at Waterloo is a story which I don't know how much truth is inside.  It most certainly can be possible as the Rothschilds developed one of, if not, the most complex and efficient postal systems in Europe of that day.  Information is power, in most cases, and with their family operations would be seen as a prime decision making asset. 

I am very sure that the Rothschilds had partners and I'm positive that these partners, debt/crediters were the Royalty and Industrial base of Europe...and probably later Rockefeller's America. 

As for their funding of wars and what not, it is absolutely plausable but one must be aware that it is only the Jewish names that get tossed about: Rothschild, Schiff, Warberg, Oppenheim ect. by the "conspiracy theorist", Nazi or international anti-semite but never does one hear of or considers the mass gentile names like Basil Zaharoff, Henry Ford, John D. Rockefeller, Hapsburg or even the Widsors.  Gentile names go back well into European history of International Banking and War making with Jacob Fugger, Medici, Geribaldi, Wellenstein, Francis Drake, El Cid et. etc.  How far back does one wish to delve into the Gentile War Making and Global Dominance theories and actions: the respective Pharohs of ancient Egypt, Alcibiades, Agamemnon or Achilles of Ancient Greece, Titus, Hadrian, Ceaser of ancient Rome, Xerses of Persia, Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, Esarhaddon of Assyria, Hattusili I of the Hittutia, Khan or Mongolia/Asia or even Mohammed and Omar I and II of Islam...directly related to today's Islamic Expansionism funded by both America/West, China, Russia, Arabia and too aided by the "Jews" of Israel.....?  Of course I'm just making a point that this theory, and of course its deed of conquest, have been around since the dawn of time totally unrelated and without the Jew.

In truth, Jewish financial and industrial holdings are far behind that of the gentile and quickly falling in comparison to that of the Oil Sheikdoms/Emirates and Saud....especially after Jimmy Carter's Adminstration...  Them's the facts.  John Loftus outlines it well in one chapter within his book "The Secret War Against the Jews".
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2007, 11:32:37 PM »
From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2007, 03:14:28 AM »
From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".
That's a stupid analogy.

It's like saying because this forum advocates sexual propriety, we must be muSSlims because they do the same.

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2007, 10:44:47 PM »
From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".
Aggression, that is one of the most inept statements I've read on this forum in a very long time.  It is obvious that you do not read many posts on the forum and know little of JTF.  Population reduction is purely of the eugenics "New Age" theorists like Margarette Meade period, end, full stop.  I've posted a very good link to Hannah Newman's "The Rainbow Swastika" which provides a very sound outline of this entire idology/ineptitude. 

As for birth control and population control, you're in the wrong forum.  From an Orthodox perspective there are only three justifications for abortion and that is when the mother's life is at risk, the product of rape or the product of incest.... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2008, 07:20:56 AM »
well lets not forget the federal reserve system  thru lies

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2008, 09:54:50 AM »
well lets not forget the federal reserve system  thru lies

Dr. Stanley Monteith's: "Secrets of the Illuminati" & his book "Brotherhood of Darkness":



"The Capitalist Conspiracy" based on Cleon Skousen's book "The Naked Capitalist" and Dr. Carroll Quigley's immense work "Tragedy & Hope":

Dr. Stanley Monteith's interview of Dr. Antony Sutton on "The Best Enemies Money Can Buy":

And lastly a very interesting documentery on "The Creature from Jeckel Island" The Federal Reserve:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-70668650671711857&q=Phenomenon%3AThe+Secret+of+the+Federal
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2008, 03:59:55 AM »
Marzutra first posted this link, I later posted it again, and for your benefit, here it is once again.

I can not stress just how important a work it is in explaining the true nature and horror of the New World Order proponents:

[url][http://philologos.org/__eb-trs//url]

I checked out this link. It all looks familiar. My Jewish friend in Israel is very much into this New Age world peace stuff - she tells me about it every time we speak. A lot of people are, according to her.

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2008, 10:04:10 AM »
Yes, sadly, they have been sucked in....  May they wake up...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2008, 09:12:41 AM »
how so the Hapsburg ??????

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2008, 09:38:00 AM »
I think it's socialists, communists and globalists.

It's those plus the neocons like Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and all the other globotards in the establishment.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2008, 09:40:04 PM »
"Neo-Cons" to identify for those who don't know means "New" "Conservative".  They are not "Conservatives" at all but Trotsky-ites.  These are the Elitist Establisment crowed.  It is an oligarchy.  At the top there is no difference between "right wing" and "left wing" it is the same bird.... ;)
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2008, 09:44:43 PM »
From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".

Who in this forum is pro-abortion?
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2008, 09:52:47 PM »
very influential rich people beyond our imaginations...

that includes people who own very valuable commodities...oil is one of them.
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2008, 09:54:28 PM »
From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".

Who in this forum is pro-abortion?

It depends on when...for certain thing i woudl be strongly pro-abortion..other things very anti-abortion.  In my opinion..on the fence on abortion...
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2008, 09:59:10 PM »
If anyone wishes to grasp a good understanding of this simply read James Perloff's "Shadows of Power" or any of the books by Antony Sutton... 
http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/ebooks/ebooks.html   ;)
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.