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Offline RationalThought110

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Overcrowded hospitals
« on: October 09, 2007, 11:13:34 PM »
I saw a story on the news about overcrowded hospitals and emergency rooms.  Why is this occurring? 

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2007, 11:19:27 PM »
  Yes thats true, I saw it in my hospital too...I really don`t know why is that so, but maybe it`s because of changing of the wheather...
The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 11:25:36 PM »
Do hospitals give priority to illegal aliens?

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2007, 11:34:00 PM »
  Of course, they just say to the social workers that they don`t have money to pay, and they don`t pay at all, but all the others who  work legally and pay taxes, pay for their health!
The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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Re: Overcrowded hospitals
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2007, 11:37:09 PM »
Why don't you verify legal status of patients?

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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2007, 11:39:15 PM »
  me????
The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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Re: Overcrowded hospitals
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2007, 11:42:15 PM »
All healthcare should be privatized.

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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2007, 11:42:30 PM »
Yes.  Propose it.  It could start with your hospital and then other hospitals could start doing it.

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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2007, 11:43:05 PM »
All healthcare should be privatized.


How would that work in comparison to how it presently works?

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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2007, 11:43:47 PM »
All healthcare should be privatized.


How would that work in comparison to how it presently works?

We stop paying for medicare and medicaid. If illegal aliens want health care, they pay out of pocket.

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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2007, 11:45:28 PM »
All healthcare should be privatized.
How would that work in comparison to how it presently works?

We stop paying for medicare and medicaid. If illegal aliens want health care, they pay out of pocket.


 That could be a good idea!

The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2007, 11:45:59 PM »
All healthcare should be privatized.
How would that work in comparison to how it presently works?

We stop paying for medicare and medicaid. If illegal aliens want health care, they pay out of pocket.


 That could be a good idea!



Don't tell that to any of the Democrats.

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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2007, 11:57:33 PM »
Could you explain to me how Medicare and Medicaid work and why the costs per patient are so high with these programs? 


Before there were Medicare and Medicaid, how did the people who are part of these programs, pay for health-care if they couldn't always afford it?

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2007, 12:01:00 AM »
Could you explain to me how Medicare and Medicaid work and why the costs per patient are so high with these programs? 


Before there were Medicare and Medicaid, how did the people who are part of these programs, pay for health-care if they couldn't always afford it?

These programs were created in the 1960's under LBJ. Since Roosevelt, there has always been some sort of social safety net/basic redistributive programs for the sick and the needy. I have no problem with paying a few tax dollars for these people who are unable to work, but I detest paying my hard-earned greenbacks for the lazy people and lawbreakers who benefit under the current system.

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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2007, 12:07:38 AM »
Aren't medicare and medicaid both fiscally insolvent and in financial trouble? 

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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2007, 12:16:15 AM »
Aren't medicare and medicaid both fiscally insolvent and in financial trouble? 

Yes, like most overnment programs.

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2007, 12:19:18 AM »
So either the amount that the government covers (through tax dollars) will have to decrease or taxes will have to increase by a lot?   

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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2007, 12:20:48 AM »

These programs were created in the 1960's under LBJ. Since Roosevelt, there has always been some sort of social safety net/basic redistributive programs for the sick and the needy. I have no problem with paying a few tax dollars for these people who are unable to work, but I detest paying my hard-earned greenbacks for the lazy people and lawbreakers who benefit under the current system.


Before the LBJ programs, were senior-citizens able to pay for health-care?

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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2007, 12:22:55 AM »
Do hospitals give priority to illegal aliens?

 Go into an Emergency Room and yell "Immigration", I promise you, you'll clear the place out!

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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2007, 12:26:11 AM »

These programs were created in the 1960's under LBJ. Since Roosevelt, there has always been some sort of social safety net/basic redistributive programs for the sick and the needy. I have no problem with paying a few tax dollars for these people who are unable to work, but I detest paying my hard-earned greenbacks for the lazy people and lawbreakers who benefit under the current system.


Before the LBJ programs, were senior-citizens able to pay for health-care?

Yes because in the 1950's the system wasn't flooded, the prices were steady and America was EXTREMELY prosperous.

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2007, 12:53:19 AM »
What caused the prices to go up so much?  If Medicare and Medicaid were to be eliminated, would senior citizens be able to afford health-care?

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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2007, 09:14:47 PM »
In Seattle the ER is packed with Blacks and Mexicans. It takes 6 hours for a guy who was shot to get in, but a minority who stubbed his toe gets a wheelchair at the door.


And the minority doesn't have to pay?