Moses Mendelsohn

[RationalThought110]

Should he be classified into this category?

[jdl4ever]

I read a lot of great things about him. 

[RationalThought110]

I read a lot of great things about him. 

Such as?  That he was a genious?

Most of his descendants converted away from Judaism. 

[MarZutra]

I beleive that Moses Mendelsohn was a traitor, another Jacob Frank, Abraham Geiger, Karl Marx, Stephen Wise type drek...if I am not mistaken.  I do not believe he was a practicing Jew but a "Jewish" Philosopher or Lawyer like Fraud...

[RationalThought110]

I beleive that Moses Mendelsohn was a traitor, another Jacob Frank, Abraham Geiger, Karl Marx, Stephen Wise type drek...if I am not mistaken.  I do not believe he was a practicing Jew but a "Jewish" Philosopher or Lawyer like Fraud...

I think he learned from a rabbi at a young age.  However, I think he may have been more into philosophy when he was older.  Is that what you're saying?

[MarZutra]

What I am saying is that I believe that Mendelsohn was an anti-Jew "Jew" who worked to destroy Judaism and Jewry like Marx, Fraud, Geiger, Lillianthal, Frank etc.  I may be mistaken but I believe he was a "utopianist" and not a G-d fearing Jew...

FACT:  Moses Mendelsohn born August 29, 1729 was named after Moses Benjamin Wulff, his mother's uncle, and son of Simcha the Sabbatian who died September 6, 1676 in Dessau.  Wulff was Mendelsohn's maternal great grandfather.  Mendelsohn and Sabbatai Raphiel were very active in the elitist/occultic organizations and I beleive responsible for the various printings of the Torah with Gnostic/Platonic bastardizations.  This is very similar to the Illuminati's impact on Christianity via the Jacobins and further the Fabian Socialist Society founding of "The Christian Book Club" for the purposes of injecting Socialism into Christian Bible/Scriptures with goal being to destroy Christianity and lead Christians towards "Utopianism" and away from Jesus and the Bible.

On page 102 in "To Eliminiate the Opiate", Dr./Rabbi Marvin Antelman (who is subsequently seen as tzaddik by Rabbi Singer, Tamar Yonah and other very active Pro-Israel/Othodox Jews and Dr. Stanley Monteith a very learned Christian) discribes the Gnostic Torah (Used by the Sabbatains, Frankists etc.) and examines the Rabbinical line of ordination and the ordination documents from 1. Shabbatai Tzvi (1626-1676) 2. Nathan of Gaza (1643-1680) 3. Solomon Ayllon (1655-1728) 4. Nechemiah Chiyon (1655-1729) 5. Juddah Leib Prossnitz (1670-1730) 6. Johathan Eibeschutz (1690-1734) and lastly Moses Mendelsohn (1729-1786).

Rabbi Antelman scrutanizes Mendelsohn's Rabbinate (s'micha) which is not that of an Orthodox Jew but is akin to that of the s'micha of Eibeschutz. 

One can further note the link between these Occultists and Abraham Geiger, founder of Deformed "Judaism" and Dr. "Rabbi" Stephen Wise who was very much a party to the extermination of European Jewry and the designating the term "Holocaust" for the incineration of 7 million Jews.  One must further note that the deffinition of "Holocaust" prior to the ending of the Second World War meant "Burnt Offering" and not a mass extermination.  This fraudulant title was opposed by all legitimate Orthodox Rabbis and Orthodox Jews due to cremation bring contra-to Judaism but perfectly acceptable to the "enlightened" Deformed "Jews" and their ideological kin the Occultic/Elitist and deprave Sabbatain pseudo/crypto-Jews.

Now this may seem like a load of "conspiracy" bunk but I, personally, have no reason do doubt it for two reasons: When one reads Wikipedia on Moses Mendelsohn one walks away with anything but an Othodox G-d fearing Jew but a "thinker" on par with Plato or other "great thinkers".  Secondly, if Othodox and learned people like Rabbi Tovia Singer believes there is a direct link from the aforementioned people and those who acted in "Perfidy" and further the power centers of Israel and the Diaspora.......the reality on the ground dictates not only the reality of but the psychology of the crypto-"Jewish" anti-Jew...  imo

[RationalThought110]

"a direct link from the aforementioned people and those who acted in "Perfidy" and further the power centers of Israel and the Diaspora"

I'm confused as to what this means.

[MarZutra]

"a direct link from the aforementioned people and those who acted in "Perfidy" and further the power centers of Israel and the Diaspora"

I'm confused as to what this means.

Sorry for my disconnected post.  What I was getting at is these people were all very active in the distortion of Judaism, assimilation and de-judaising Jews....or destroying them.  When one researches Jewish History, specifically since 1500, one can see many names that are either related or associates to other Jews who were later to become leaders of social-political-economic movements which all hold similar views and goals: Jacob Frank, Abraham Geiger, Maxwell Lillianthal, Karl Marx....and Stephen Wise.  Further, if one looks at Peres, Olmert and all the Bolshevik anti-Jew Socialists running Israel, and subsequently the mainstream diaspora "Jewish" Establisment" are too affiliated with similar histories.  ACLU and the ADL are VERY similar in both their founding and their goals only differing in the ACLU is a Gentile Socialist/Elitist movement and the ADL is a "Jewish" Socialist organization.

If one compares the Frankists, for example, and their "Christian" counterparts; Jacobins, their histories and goals are very similar...

[q_q_]

I posted something about mendelessohn in soc.culture.jewish.moderated  (not a great newsgroup). I will paste the ordination line from it here.

I also contacted rabbi antelman about it some time ago. He said that he got a copy of Mendelssohn`s smicha cert from new york public library. He published the hebrew smicha certificate in a book he wrote in hebrew about Jonathan Eibeschutz called Bchor Satan (I think that mean son of satan). 

Here is the line of ordination..

1. Shabbetai Tzvi (1626-1676)
2 Nathan of Gaza (1643 - 1680)
3 Siolomon Ayllon (1655 - 1728)
4 Nechemiah Chiyon (1655 - 1729)
5 Judah Leib Prossnitz (1670-1730)
6 Jonathan Eibeschutz (1690 - 1764)
7 Moses Mendelssohn (1729 - 1786)

It`s important not to confuse Moses Mendelssohn with Sir Moses Montefiore . Similar names.

Jonathan Eibeschutz was a Gaon (rabbi and genius, encyclopedic knowledge of the talmud), and most rabbis do not believe he was sabbetean.  Rabbi Yaakov Emden, who lived in his time, did. But nowadays 99.9% of l rabbis accept him as a great rabbi.  Perhaps because they don`T want to believe he was sabbatean.  Gershom Shalom(quoted by antelman) maintains he was sabbatean. He was obviously sabbatean largely in secret. (I think the ordination cerificate he wrote for mendellsohn would prove he was sabbatean, besides the other things like special amulets he made).

interestingly, most people do not even know that Mendelssohn had semicha. I suppose it wasn`t really a semicha.

note- one guy once told me, Gershom Scholom was obsessed with Shabbetai Tzvi and could find him in a teacup. AS easily as chamish finds a conspiracy in a teacup   - nevertheless, I reckon both are right. I`m sure chamish is right about rabin. And I only discovered  Rabbi antelman, thanks to barry chamish.


For those that do not know. Shabbetai Tzvi`s followers believed in being righteous through sin.

Real anti jews, far worse than the self hating variety of today!! some of these guys were involved in the founding of reform/conservative movements.  The founders knew it was a scam
 
 

 

[MarZutra]

Moses Mendelsohn should NOT be listed as a Jewish Hero..

[Ulli]

This is the main-title of one of his books.



It is printed in a Tora-translation, I bought before one year.



Then is this no good translation?

[habiru]

mendelsohn, eybschutz, antelman, emden all complicated figures. just remember one thing, there are many things that arent black or white but rather somewhere in the middle, thats where i think the truth lies (no pun intended)here.

[MarZutra]

mendelsohn, eybschutz, antelman, emden all complicated figures. just remember one thing, there are many things that arent black or white but rather somewhere in the middle, thats where i think the truth lies (no pun intended)here.

In many cases that may be correct but the problem I have with this logic today, with such mass disinformation, "political correctness" and, yes, conspiracies at play, if one tells the absolute truth and Communist, Muslim, Nazi or Elitist/Globalists comes along and publically states something that is an utter lie the outcome of that logic is tragic, false and further...still a lie. 

Thank you for pointing out the crux of Leftist tactics in their quest for political/social power using their professed ideology: Dialectical Materialism.  Hense: "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." - Vladimir Lenin.

Truthfully, I do not know, but looking at the facts on the ground and the reality of the world today, I'd hedge my bet on the likelihood of Rabbi Antelman being far more correct than not. 

[jdl4ever]

Interesting, I didn't know the guy was an evil Sabbatean.