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The expulsion of the Jews of spain can be tolerated because of the expulsion of the Moors ?

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Offline Dexter

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I don't think so....
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

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well actually...i have a question...

Isn't any expulsion of Jews from galut a blessing in disguise?? Since we are supposed to be in Israel...I"m going to ask Chaim that question...

If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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well actually...i have a question...

Isn't any expulsion of Jews from galut a blessing in disguise?? Since we are supposed to be in Israel...I"m going to ask Chaim that question...


From the galut to galut ?
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

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well actually...i have a question...

Isn't any expulsion of Jews from galut a blessing in disguise?? Since we are supposed to be in Israel...I"m going to ask Chaim that question...


From the galut to galut ?

wait a second..i dont' even know what galut means...LOL...

If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

"Science without religion is lame; Religion without science is blind."  - Albert Einstein

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Pardon my ignorance, but who are the Moors?

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moors=arabs.

 :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Offline Eliezer Ben Avraham

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well actually...i have a question...

Isn't any expulsion of Jews from galut a blessing in disguise?? Since we are supposed to be in Israel...I"m going to ask Chaim that question...


From the galut to galut ?

wait a second..i dont' even know what galut means...LOL...


galut means exile
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Offline Eliezer Ben Avraham

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No, We don't have to tolerate expulsion, although we shouldn't be in the exile anyway.
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Pardon my ignorance, but who are the Moors?


It's the Moops!  :laugh:
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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well actually...i have a question...

Isn't any expulsion of Jews from galut a blessing in disguise?? Since we are supposed to be in Israel...I"m going to ask Chaim that question...


From the galut to galut ?

wait a second..i dont' even know what galut means...LOL...


galut means exile

exactly...i thought it meant diaspora or somethin glike that thanks...

anyway, my point is that if Jews are supposed to be in Eretz Yisrael, isn't it technically a blessing in disguise to be exiled out of a country that isn't eretz yisrael?
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

"Science without religion is lame; Religion without science is blind."  - Albert Einstein

Offline Eliezer Ben Avraham

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well actually...i have a question...

Isn't any expulsion of Jews from galut a blessing in disguise?? Since we are supposed to be in Israel...I"m going to ask Chaim that question...


From the galut to galut ?

wait a second..i dont' even know what galut means...LOL...


galut means exile

exactly...i thought it meant diaspora or somethin glike that thanks...

anyway, my point is that if Jews are supposed to be in Eretz Yisrael, isn't it technically a blessing in disguise to be exiled out of a country that isn't eretz yisrael?
One could say so, although that doesn't give a country the right to expel Jews
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Pardon my ignorance, but who are the Moors?

In an episode of "Seinfield", George was playing trivial pursuit with the "Bubble boy" and there was a question about the Moors.

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Re:  "...my point is that if Jews are supposed to be in Eretz Yisrael, isn't it technically a blessing in disguise to be exiled out of a country that isn't eretz yisrael?..."

Not necessarily...

Torah is quite specific that "The Land of Israel" will not tolerate Jews who renounce Torah to continue living in it...

Torah says The Land will literally "vomit out" its inhabitants as punishment for breaking our Covenant with Ha'Shem.

(which, by the way, just so happens to be the reason we lived in Exile for 2,000 years)

Offline Eliezer Ben Avraham

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Torah says The Land will literally "vomit out" its inhabitants as punishment for breaking our Covenant with Ha'Shem.

(which, by the way, just so happens to be the reason we lived in Exile for 2,000 years)
Jewish and non-Jewish inhabitants?
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Pardon my ignorance, but who are the Moors?
Arabs and Berbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche