The smell of muslims

[the_theologian]

I noticed a new post and will try answer both.

The whole thread is just like a Muslim creating one of ""Jews love money more than their G-d."". Its seeming to hate the whole religion because of extremist who hate the Jewish people.


Cjd, I would not dispute there are Muslims who kill innocent people. I do NOT support than. (I know you never said it, I just like to make clear.)

I could cite many example , facts, history, world views, of Israel being a very dangerous rogue state. Of you you will dispute that, maybe. That would being me to produce all facts to it. A nice healthy debate?

-Theo

You claim Israel is a "dangerous, rogue state", you nazi pig?

Just how is that?

Nazi? I never know someone was a Nazi if they questioned the state of Israel. Before I start to show you, why refer to me as a Nazi?

[newman]

I noticed a new post and will try answer both.

The whole thread is just like a Muslim creating one of ""Jews love money more than their G-d."". Its seeming to hate the whole religion because of extremist who hate the Jewish people.


Cjd, I would not dispute there are Muslims who kill innocent people. I do NOT support than. (I know you never said it, I just like to make clear.)

I could cite many example , facts, history, world views, of Israel being a very dangerous rogue state. Of you you will dispute that, maybe. That would being me to produce all facts to it. A nice healthy debate?

-Theo

You claim Israel is a "dangerous, rogue state", you nazi pig?

Just how is that?

Nazi? I never know someone was a Nazi if they questioned the state of Israel. Before I start to show you, why refer to me as a Nazi?

All the allegations made against Israel by the leftists, Islamists and nazis have been debunked. If you believe or spread them, you're a nazi. If you oppose a Jewish state you believe the Jews should live in peril in diaspora, then you're a nazi.

Now let's hear the same tired old myths about Israel doing the rounds of the neo-nazi and muslim-nazi boards. I could use a laugh.

[cjd]

I noticed a new post and will try answer both.

The whole thread is just like a Muslim creating one of ""Jews love money more than their G-d."". Its seeming to hate the whole religion because of extremist who hate the Jewish people.


Cjd, I would not dispute there are Muslims who kill innocent people. I do NOT support than. (I know you never said it, I just like to make clear.)

I could cite many example , facts, history, world views, of Israel being a very dangerous rogue state. Of you you will dispute that, maybe. That would being me to produce all facts to it. A nice healthy debate?

-Theo

You claim Israel is a "dangerous, rogue state", you nazi pig?

Just how is that?

I am not interested in any such debate that shows Israel or the Jewish people in the light that you wish to debate about. What would be the point since from the start you would be wrong. Face it Muslim are killers and they stink its just that simple. End of debate.

[the_theologian]

""All the allegations made against Israel by the leftists, Islamists and nazis have been debunked."" I have no such ideas of which you claim to have been debunked , though I would be interested to know.

""If you believe or spread them, you're a nazi. If you oppose a Jewish state you believe the Jews should live in peril in diaspora, then you're a nazi.""

Again, because I don't know which allegations you speak of. Nazi?

"Now let's hear the same tired old myths about Israel doing the rounds of the neo-nazi and muslim-nazi boards. I could use a laugh." Myths?

I take it, BBC, UN, EU , such places as the Catholic Church, amnesty reports and more are myths?

I don't want to have ''they all myths'' before I type a lto so just want to see your views on such things.

-Theo







"24 November 2004 Israeli soldiers continued firing at a Palestinian girl killed in Gaza last month well after she had been identified as a frightened child, a military communications tape has revealed.

The tape is likely to be crucial in the prosecution case against the men's company commander, who faces five charges arising from the killing of Iman al-Hams, 13, in the southern border town of Rafah on 6 October.

It shows that troops firing with light weapons and machine guns on a figure moving in a "no entry zone" close to an army outpost near the border with Egypt had swiftly discovered that she was a girl.

In the recorded exchanges someone in the operations room asks: "Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?" The observation post, housed in a watchtower, replies: "It's a little girl. She's running defensively eastwards, a girl of about 10. She's behind the embankment, scared to death."

Not until four minutes later was it reported that the girl had been hit and had fallen. The observation post reports: "Receive, I think that one of the positions took her out." ... Operations room: "What, she fell?" Observation post: "She's not moving right now."

The tape records the commander as telling his men, after firing at the girl with an automatic weapon and declaring he has "confirmed" the killing: "Anyone who's mobile, moving in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed.""
I have article if need to see the "myth''.

[the_theologian]

The last part I didn't know but was working on the same principle of if Hamas do it, terrorism, IDF do it, anti-terrorism.

""What would be the point since from the start you would be wrong"". The wold is clueless and only Israllis and US people know the turth attitude is silly.

Don't compare the IDF to Hamas if you don't want to be banned, this is zionist forum. The EU, BBC and UN are hives of vile, G-dless, socialist antisemitic scums; and I'm tapping this from Poland and Newman is Aussie  so your last argument is bs too.

[cjd]

The last part I didn't know but was working on the same principle of if Hamas do it, terrorism, IDF do it, anti-terrorism.

""What would be the point since from the start you would be wrong"". The wold is clueless and only Israllis and US people know the turth attitude is silly.

This American knows the truth because I saw what Muslims did on two occasions here in New York. Don't tell me about innocent civilians and children because it's the same people who will strap a bomb on their child's back and point them in the direction of Israeli troops. I think you had better find a better place to play because if you stick around its going to get rough.

[newman]

I take it, BBC, UN, EU , such places as the Catholic Church, amnesty reports and more are myths?

I don't want to have ''they all myths'' before I type a lto so just want to see your views on such things.

-Theo

The BBC??? What a joke! The BBC is so biased and so left-wing, the Royal Navy has banned BBC broadcasts from being piped through their ships in the persian gulf. The reason sited was that BBC reporting was so biased, left-wing and incorrect that it was convoluting the minds of their sailors.

The UN has been constantly anti-Israel since it's inception. The UN is regarded as nothing more than a joke according to recent polls in the USA and Australia. Muslims butcher black africans wholesale and the UN is silent. Israel kills armed terrorists and there's uproar!

Ditto the nazi EU. The nations of the EU must now run their foreign policies in accordance to the wishes of their growing muslim populations who threaten to riot, bomb and kill if they don't.

Amnesty Int'l has been caught out and found biased on so many occasions it no longer has any credibility. Whole books have been written about this leftist front group.

Last but by no means least The Catholic Church!!!  

The most anti-semitic, Jew-hating, evil organisation in world history? The ones who claim The Jews are all cursed? The ones who claim to have replaced the jews? The ones who conducted the Spainish Inquisition, did deals with the nazis and were silent during the holocaust? The same church who were opposed to The State of Israel from the beginning claiming it was a theological anathama? The church who strongly urged all Catholic world leaders to vote against partition in 1947?

What a joke. Not one of those organisations has ANY credibility, especially where Israel is concerned.

[the_theologian]

On what grounds do you label them anti-semetic? Why can we not have a simple talk of facts. Yes , Hamas are terrorists and we all know. Though shooting a child is a terrorist act. Nothing changes that. Where am I wrong to state the IDF killing unarmed child is wrong?

-Theo

[the_theologian]

No UN, EU, CC, what do we have left? Fox news or some such neo-con station? So biased its a joke.

-Theo

[newman]

On what grounds do you label them anti-semetic? Why can we not have a simple talk of facts. Yes , Hamas are terrorists and we all know. Though shooting a child is a terrorist act. Nothing changes that. Where am I wrong to state the IDF killing unarmed child is wrong?

-Theo

The IDF risks the lives of it's soldiers to avoid civillian casualties. They have the most stringent shoot-no shoot rules of engagement in the world. Yes a civilian may be harmed occasionally, but it is incidental. Terrorism is when people are deliberately murdered. The allies killed women & children in WW2. It happens.

The arabs on the other hand DELIBERATELY target children. That's the difference!

BTW, remember the so-called Jenin massacre. All the horrible stories about the 'blood-thirsty Israelis'? Turned out to be a complete FRAUD set up by arabs. The only reason the media had to admit it was a false story was because they were forced to by the Congress for Truth and other organisations, otherwise the media would have let the lie slide.

Remember (Al) Reuters getting caught out with faked photos in the Lebanon war of 2006? Huh?

Please don't try and sell me on 'reports in the media' based on arab or UN observer testimony. They couldn't lie straight in bed.

[the_theologian]

I did hear about that and would never try use it.  I know of the IDF have to be sharp on such things but, hundreds of people have been killed due to "accidents."

When Hezbollah kidnapped them troops over boarder, what was result? Lebanon destroyed. Thats an overuse of force. They did so many illegal things in that 'war'.

There is some things people don't do in wars. I know Hamas don't pay attention but, if hamas destroyed a bus, its out and out terrorism, Israel destroy an airport killing many. Its a mistake and no news would run with it.


-Theo

[the_theologian]

Ill not mention all times of  killing  UN aid workers because they are anti-semic and prob made it up, eh?

-Theo

[the_theologian]

Or the fact countless orthodox jews criticize Israel. I don't think they are anti-semetic.


((im not refering to the Arabs who mock about on Arab TV claiming to be such))

-Theo

[Ultra Requete]

So they shoud just put their necks under axes? and you acidently forgot about sheling of northern Israel by thousands of katyushas before  IDF reacted and invaded Hezballess ocupied Lebanon; This is realy outragegus those insolent JOOS dare to defend themself.

[newman]

I did hear about that and would never try use it.  I know of the IDF have to be sharp on such things but, hundreds of people have been killed due to "accidents."

When Hezbollah kidnapped them troops over boarder, what was result? Lebanon destroyed. Thats an overuse of force. They did so many illegal things in that 'war'.

There is some things people don't do in wars. I know Hamas don't pay attention but, if hamas destroyed a bus, its out and out terrorism, Israel destroy an airport killing many. Its a mistake and no news would run with it.


-Theo

If any other country faced the daily mass-murder of it's citizens the way Israel does their response would by 10 times as severe as Israel's. Israel is the only state held up to such unrealistic demands of restraint.

Drawing an equivalency between the regular army of a democracy operating under strict rules of engagement and terrorists sponsored by dictatorships shows you are at best morally vaccuous and at worst a complete nazi.

BTW,

How is it that the only country in the mid east who....

1/ is a democracy

2/ affords full rights to women

3/ affords full rights to gays

4/ has full religious freedom

5/ allows anybody of any nationality or religion to own property

...........is a rogue state? HUH??

[the_theologian]

1230 civilians, 31 Lebanese soldiers and 60 Hezbollah fighters.

The official Israeli death toll is 157 total: 39 civilians and 118 soldiers.


Does that not seem a little excessive to you?

-Teho

[the_theologian]

1/ is a democracy -Tick

2/ affords full rights to women -Tick

3/ affords full rights to gays -Tick

4/ has full religious freedom -Tick

5/ allows anybody of any nationality or religion to own property -Tick

...........is a rogue state? HUH?Huh? 

Thats nothing to do with a rogue state o.O I use ""a state that does not respect other states in its international actions "" .

[the_theologian]

I still interested to hear about the many orthodox Jews who voice against Israel. Are they Nazis?

-Theo

[newman]

1230 civilians, 31 Lebanese soldiers and 60 Hezbollah fighters.

The official Israeli death toll is 157 total: 39 civilians and 118 soldiers.


Does that not seem a little excessive to you?

-Teho

Blame Lebanon. They allow a group of terrorists to attack a sovereign country from their soil. What other country on Earth would allow such a thing??? What do they expect? If Cuba allowed a group of fanatics to shell Florida from it's soil what do you think the USA would do?

[newman]

I still interested to hear about the many orthodox Jews who voice against Israel. Are they Nazis?

-Theo

What orthodox Jews. The neturei karta cult? Satmars?? Those are fringe loonies who represent .1% of othodox Jewery. They are as representative of orthodox Jewery as Jim Jones' cult or the Branch Davidians are to protestantism.

[the_theologian]

1230 civilians, 31 Lebanese soldiers and 60 Hezbollah fighters.

The official Israeli death toll is 157 total: 39 civilians and 118 soldiers.


Does that not seem a little excessive to you?

-Teho

Blame Lebanon. They allow a group of terrorists to attack a sovereign country from their soil. What other country on Earth would allow such a thing??? What do they expect? If Cuba allowed a group of fanatics to shell Florida from it's soil what do you think the USA would do?

The Lebanon army is nothing compaired to Hezbollah.  Its well known. What can they do? A good majority of people actually support Hezbollah. I remember when IRA did same to my country. We did not go and take it our on Ireland.  What of H-bollah wanting a trade as is used in various parts of the world? I know relations with terrorists is a not advised but was it worth knock close to 2000 deaths?

-Theo

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...Israeli death toll is 157 total: 39 civilians and 118 soldiers.  Does that not seem a little excessive to you?..."

HELL YES IT'S NOT ONLY EXCESSIVE BUT DOWNRIGHT EXTREME!

THE LEBANESE ARE JUST MURDERERS!

39 CIVILIANS!...118 SOLDIERS!...?

THIS GIVES THE JEWS THE RIGHT TO GET EVEN!...

[the_theologian]

Im sorry I never did answer your question. I think the US would do them same.  Though, from a country that didn't recognise the world courts jurisdiction when they had it for war crimes.......


-Theo

[newman]

1230 civilians, 31 Lebanese soldiers and 60 Hezbollah fighters.

The official Israeli death toll is 157 total: 39 civilians and 118 soldiers.


Does that not seem a little excessive to you?

-Teho

Blame Lebanon. They allow a group of terrorists to attack a sovereign country from their soil. What other country on Earth would allow such a thing??? What do they expect? If Cuba allowed a group of fanatics to shell Florida from it's soil what do you think the USA would do?

The Lebanon army is nothing compaired to Hezbollah.  Its well known. What can they do? A good majority of people actually support Hezbollah. I remember when IRA did same to my country. We did not go and take it our on Ireland.  What of H-bollah wanting a trade as is used in various parts of the world? I know relations with terrorists is a not advised but was it worth knock close to 2000 deaths?

-Theo

Blame Hezbollah, idiot! They shelled Israel of their own free choice. Israel cannot sleep at night. What are they to do? Nothing??

Lebanon made NO attempt go ask international help to get HB out. If any other country had an armed terrorist entity in their borders they doidn't want they'd kick them out or ask the int'l community to help them do it. They did neither, they must suffer the consequenses.

Israel is a legal and historic entity and a sovereign state with every right to defend itself. Just like the USA, UK, France and Russia. All of whom kill in retalliation for terrorist attacks.

[the_theologian]

Re:  "...Israeli death toll is 157 total: 39 civilians and 118 soldiers.  Does that not seem a little excessive to you?..."

HELL YES IT'S NOT ONLY EXCESSIVE BUT DOWNRIGHT EXTREME!

THE LEBANESE ARE JUST MURDERERS!

39 CIVILIANS!...118 SOLDIERS!...?

THIS GIVES THE JEWS THE RIGHT TO GET EVEN!...

I guess I can ignore all your posts because I take it you think Israeli blood is worth more and 3 troops is enough to destroy a country.

-Theo