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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2006, 04:08:05 PM »
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Nationalism and Israel
28th July 2006
 
There are those in the Nationalist movement, both in the UK and elsewhere around the world, that regard the dispute in the Middle East between Hezbollah and Israel in Lebanon as a ‘war’. For a start this is not a war. This is nothing more than a bad tempered border dispute.

60,000 British soldiers killed and wounded in just one day on the battlefield of the Somme is a war.

This is a bad tempered spat. More people die every day in Iraq than in this dispute. What is happening in Iraq is not described as a war, but this is. The use of the word 'war' to describe what is happening in Lebanon has nothing to do with logic, but is an aspect of the 'emotional propaganda' that the media use to bombard the public into sobbing submission. The images are designed to undermine rational interpretation and rather to appeal to primitive emotionalism. The fact that people still allow the media to manipulate them through the use of psychological warfare techniques utilised by the media and their corporate masters shows us the British people need to be taught critical media analysis skills. The fact the US government did not want pictures of the flag draped coffins of US troops on the news only a few months ago, should enlighten people as to the power of the image as an aspect of asymetric warfare.

These so called ‘Nationalists’ that attack Israel at the whim of the media can also be found standing shoulder to shoulder with Far Left activists, Communists, the United Nations and various repugnant Islamic terrorist groups, and yet never seem to think about the logic of them doing so. Any ' alliance' that involves nationalists agreeing with the media and communists etc is based either on stupidity or a misunderstanding of the nature of the issue. They should start understanding the future, instead of navel gazing into the past.

Hezbollah are a terrorist group whose aims are to destroy Israel and then fight for a global Jihad and exterminate all non-Islamics and impose a global Islamic caliphate. Negotiation with such groups is a waste of time. It’s a ‘Them or Us’ situation. (6) You cannot negotiate with a rabid dog, you can only kill it. Those that say that negotiation is possible with Hezbollah fail to understand that the aims of Hezbollah are not based on rational politics, they are based on theological absolutism. They do not want to negotiate with us, they just want to destroy us. Therefore terror must be met with terror.

The fact that ‘Nationalists’ are busy using the same facile, emotive and asinine language as the allegedly ‘Zionist controlled media’ in their increasingly shrill reportage on the dispute in the nationalist movement, shows how far they have become lost in their own political psychosis. The fact that the British media has become the European propaganda wing of Hezbollah and churns out endless montages of wounded children, old men and women whilst never showing any footage of dead Hezbollah terrorists, blown up Hezbollah weapons dumps and footage of bombed Hezbollah camps should get some people thinking.

Media control

For decades the lunatic fringe of the Nationalist movement has said that the media is controlled by the ‘Jews’ and Israel. The reports from the BBC, and the rest of the British media, are so anti-Israel and pro-Hezbollah that such a contention has been revealed to be total rubbish. The fact is that Israel have adopted one of the most restrained invasions in world history. They have leafleted the areas where they are about to strike before they hit those targets. Thats not something NATO did in Serbia when it bombed the Serbs to assist the Kosovan Muslims in their campaign of ethnic cleansing. When they bombed the trains and TV station they did not warn the public and the media beforehand.

We hear from the media all the time how the British government did not bomb the IRA in their strongholds in Southern Ireland. The fact is that a true nationalist government would never allow terrorists to operate with impunity in another nation if those terrorists are using that ground to attack another nation. The BNP, as a true nationalist movement, would not have balked at bombing IRA arms stores and training camps in Southern Ireland if the Southern Ireland government did not seize those weapons and close down those camps. If they had not stopped the IRA - we would have.

Either the UK media in Lebanon is inept and cannot find those damaged Hezbollah military sites ( heres a tip lads – follow the smoke and the big bangs ), the media are biased in that it doesn’t want to show Hezbollahs military losses and only wants to show Israel as the aggressor, the media are cowardly as it is far easier and safer to attack Israel than report the truth in Lebanon in case the Hezbollah terrorists get annoyed by their reports and kidnap the journalists as they did with Terry Waite or the media have allowed themselves to become complict in the asymetric warfare techniques of Hezbollah by only showing the footage Hezbollah wants them to show on TV to undermine support for Israel.

The other option is that the media have an ‘ agenda ‘ in relation to their reporting. The obvious agenda for the media is to assist in ending nationalism as an ideology and the destruction of nationalist states like Israel. For the BBC this is the fundamental principle of their entire existence. The media want Israel to end this dispute not because they are motivated by some superior moral code or care for the Lebanese people, for it is a fact that the media themselves are the eqivalent of vultures feeding with their cameras on the corpses in War Zones for profit, but because they want this dispute to cease as they support the creation of the International New World Order. In the New World Order the global media, and the media barons that control the media, will then control the planet and anyone who dares defy the corporations will be destroyed.

They want all nation states destroyed and nationalism itself destroyed. That way the media and the corporations will control the planet through their control of the perceptions people have of the world itself. They regard nations as obstacles to their end goal of a misceginated, deracinated, consumer slave mass where human beings are cattle in pens without identities, a past, a home, a future and to be bought and sold as they wish.

Stooges

The media , and the pet politicians of the New World Order that are also calling for a ceasefire, are all stooges of the United Nations, the European Union and the rest of the International Elite that regard Nationalism and nation states as historical anachronisms that must be wiped out. All true nationalists should be supporting Israel in this struggle not attacking them for rejecting the orders of the New World Order. The example of the resistance of Israel against the New World Order should give hope to all those of us who want our nations back and the end of the international era to begin. If Israel can defy the New World Order then so can we. If Israel is a democracy, then we can be a similar democracy. Israel is the model for a nation that understands the importance of putting the interests of the nation and the people before all other factors.

As a Nationalist I can say that I support Israel 100 % in their dispute with Hezbollah. In fact, I hope they wipe Hezbollah off the Lebanese map and bomb them until they leave large greasy craters in the cities where their Islamic extremist cantons of terror once stood. The 21st Century is the Islamic Century. Unless we start to resist the threat of Islamic extremism then within 100 years the West will have become Eurabia.

During the Second World War when we faced VI and V2 rockets and missiles targeting our cities we reacted with a campaign of targeted aerial bombings and strikes across Germany. The fact that the same rockets killing Israeli citizens are the same as those used by by the Russians in World War 2 against the Germans is an irony of history. (5) The fact that the new rockets being used by Hezbollah, the Fajr-3, have a range of of 80 kilometres means Israel has no choice but to destroy Hezbollahs bases before these rockets coming raining down in their thousands on Israel(6). In such circumstances a pre-emptive strike is essential for the survival of the Israeli state. You cannot allow terrorists to lauch thousands of rockets at your nation. If the IRA had launched rockets from Southern Ireland into Northern Ireland then the BNP would have retaliated with air strikes on those sites and wiped them out. We would not have sat their watching them fly over us and then debate whether we should ring the UN for permission to knock on the door of the Southern Irish embassy and ask them politely to tell the IRA ' would you mind awfully stopping firing those missiles at us old chap '.

No reward for terrorism

Unlike the UK the Israeli government does not reward Islamic terrorism by giving money to Islamic groups linked to terrorism and extremism and does not impose laws on the victims of Islamic terrorism and ban any criticism of Islam as a reward for murdering us. The Labour government in Britain, unlike Israel, have given into the Muslim extremists in the UK, and the government is itself linked to Muslim extremist groups and has let extremist imams into the country to spread hatred against Jews and White Christians. (8) (9).

Even the EU hides the truth of Muslim violence in Europe. The whole political structures of Europe are senile, corrupt and weak. The EU and the politicians that run our nations are the greatest assets of the terrorists. They are the weakness that we must shed if we are to survive.

It appears that in their historical hatred for Israel many Nationalists have forgotten the future threat of Eurabia and Londonistan. (10) (11) (12). We have not.

It was only a few months ago that Muslim extremists were celebrating the murder of British citizens in the 7 / 7 bombings during the Cartoon Protests. Attacks on Jews in the UK by Muslims are also linked with the rise in murders of young whites like Ross Parker and Kriss Donald (13) (14) (15) (16). The Muslim extremists that are targeting the Jews in the Middle East and in the UK are also murdering our young people in the UK in the name of their filthy Jihad. They are the enemies of our people as much as they are the enemies of Israel. The fact that British Nationalists cannot see that tolerating the murder of Jews in the name of Jihad in Israel will lead to the murder of Christians and Whites in the UK in the name of Jihad, shows they have no understanding of the nature of the enemy we face.

White slavery, Islamic Corsairs raiding Cornwall and Ireland, millions of our people taken to the slave markets of the East, the atrocities inflicted against Russian soldiers in Afghanistan, against Serbian Christians and the horrors of Beslan, riots and murders are the future for the West unless radical extremist Islamic terrorists and their supporters in the West are crushed.

Lebanon has to learn that allowing terrorists to crawl in its streets and unleash terror across the world is an invitation for retribution. That is a lesson that many other nations also need to learn.

Nationalist state

Israel is the only living organic nationalist state on the planet. They live only as they still have the will to fight and wage war. The West is now a senile culture, it sleeps in dreams of its former glory whilst a new generation of barbarians is beseiging its gates. In its quest for gold it has ignored the real dangers it has created for us all.

Those nationalists that attack Israel no longer understand that nations such as Israel are the only true nationalists left on the planet. They place the interests of the people at the heart of their politics. That is the true nature of nationalism.

The fundamental principle of Nationalism is that it is for the nation as a sovereign entity to decide for itself when its national security is threatened and also how it should respond to that threat. Israel is the only nation state in the world today that still defends the fundamental principle of nationalism - that it is for the people of that nation to decide how to respond to an attack, and that no nation needs to get the permission of the United Nations or the European Union, or any other cabal of capitalists and crooks, before it begins to fight against any internal or external aggressors.

Many British nationalists even support Hezbollah even though Hezbollah are linked with groups that have murdered British tourists, kidnapped British citizens and Hezbollah have planted bombs on British streets. They are so busy listening to the propaganda of the media and the anti-jewish lunatics to start thinking.

Catalogue of terror

Hezbollah have kidnapped around 30 White Westerners between 1982 and 1992, including the U.S. journalist Terry Anderson, British journalist John McCarthy, the Archbishop of Canterbury's special envoy Terry Waite and Irish citizen Brian Keenan. They specialised in kidnapping White Christians and holding them in chains for ransom.

On July 18, 1994, a powerful bomb made of was driven in through the front gates of the AMIA building in the Once district near downtown Buenos Aires. The building was a large seven-story structure which was the community site of Argentina's small Jewish community. The bomber exploded and eighty-five people died, most of them Jewish though some non-Jewish people died in the explosion as well. More than three hundred others were wounded.

On July 26, 1994, just Eight days after the AMIA bombing, the Israeli Embassy in London was car bombed by two Palestinians who were linked with Hezbollah. The United Kingdom, Israel and Argentina all blamed Hezbollah for organising the attack.

The Hezbollah car bomb exploded outside the Israeli embassy in London, injuring 20 people. The car was packed with 20 to 30 pounds of explosives, and blew up minutes after the driver left it.

Thirteen hours later a similar car bomb exploded outside a Jewish charity in North London.

Two Palestinian science graduates who were educated in the UK, Jawad Botmeh and Samar Alami, with links to Hezbollah were apprehended in 1995, and found guilty of the bombings in 1996. They were sentenced to 20 years in jail, and lost their appeal in 2001.

The conflict in Lebanon has also vomited up another old face from recent terrorism cases in the UK. Syrian born radical Islamist Sheikh Omar bin Bakri Muhammad, who lived in London and was linked to many of the Islamic terrorists in the UK (1) was the founder of the London branch of Hizb Al-Tahrir (the Islamic Liberation Party), and of the organization “Jama’at Al-Muhajirun”.

It is clear that Israel and the UK face the same enemy - suicide bombers on the streets of Tel Aviv have been British Muslims ( 7)

Bakri was the spokesman of Osama bin Laden’s International Islamic Front for Jihad against Jews and Crusaders. This organization, by Bakri’s own admission, was involved in raising funds Islamic terrorist groups such as Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and was “in touch” with Hezbollah. The fact that Bakri has now appeard in Lebanon proves his links with Hezbollah. Bakri has further claimed that in the past he recruited volunteers for training in paramilitary camps located in the U.S. and Lebanon.

In an interview, Bakri has said that The International Islamic Front for Jihad against the Jews and the Crusaders, created by Osama bin Laden and run in the UK by Bakri had actively supported Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. “We collect funds to be able to carry on the struggle; we recruit militiamen; and sometimes we take care of these groups’ propaganda requirements in Europe.”

According to Bakri, The Islamic Front has recruited thousands of Islamic terrorist volunteers in Britain and sent them to Jordan, where they have awaited opportunities to infiltrate into the West Bank and join the fight against Israel. Recruits from Britain have also been sent to Lebanon, where they were trained in Palestinian refugee camps. “In the ‘Ein Al-Hilweh camp, for instance, new mujahideen are being recruited and trained with the aim of opening up another front in south Lebanon.” Bakri added that the International Islamic Front is also “in touch with Hizballah and with Islamic movements such as Usbat Al-Ansar, which are determined to fight for the liberation of Jerusalem.” (2) Ein Al-Hilweh camp has links with Al Qaeda and other radical foreign Islamists (20)

Cause of current dispute

It was not Israel that started this dispute. The United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559 ( passed on the 02 September 2004) called for the immediate "disbanding and disarmament of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias". Under the UN resolution the elected Government of Lebanon is responsible for the disbanding and disarming of the Hezbollah militias and also for preventing the flow of armaments and other military equipment to the militias from Syria, Iran, and other external sources that equip and fund the terrorists. Lebanon has rejected Resolution 1559 and refused to tackle the militias. This failure to act against the Hezbollah rocket teams and terrorists firing missiles into Israel has led to the present Israeli military retaliation against vital Lebanese infrastructure and Hezbollah assets to force action by the Lebanese government to disarm Hezbollah.

If the Lebanese government won’t act by choice, then they must be forced to act.

Then on July 12, 2006 members of a Hezbollah terrorist unit infiltrated the Lebanese-Israeli border near Shtula, and entered an Israeli farming village. Hezbollah then claimed responsibility for an ambush conducted on two Israeli Army Hummvees. The attack on the army team resulted in the capture of two Israeli soldiers and the deaths of three others. Five more Israeli soldiers were killed in the ensuing pursuit of Hezbollah members into Lebanese territory. The combined capture of the two Israeli soldiers and the deaths of the 8 others was considered the worst loss for Israeli military forces in more than four years.

The world may have forgotten March 19, 1988 when two British soldiers soldiers, corporals Derek Wood and David Howes were dragged from their car by a republican mob, beaten, and then taken to a remote area near Belfast's Milltown Cemetery and shot dead. If the British government had then resolved to crush the IRA on that day the same way the Israeli government has decided to crush Hezbollah, then we would not have had the hundreds of people killed in the IRA bombings and attacks since that day. Sinn Fein would also now not be in government and the terrorist scum of the IRA would not be playing at being politicians for the cringing sycophant of the IRA, Peter Hain the Northern Ireland Secretary, who was linked with ARM terrorism in South Africa before he fled the country and claimed political asylum in the UK. (21) (22)

The leader of Hezbollah, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, is also no friend of the Lebanese or Palestinian people. He has used the plight of the Palestinian people as his political and propaganda trump card, posturing as the defender of the Arab world while simultaneously putting pressure on the Lebanese government through Hezbollah and Syria to keep Palestinians from obtaining full citizenship and legal rights in Lebanon, where they are denied access to many professions.

Amnesty International has issued reports stating how badly the Lebanese government treats the Palestinian refugees. (3) The fact that various liberals, nazis and leftists all say that the problem is the plight of the Palestinians is utter rubbish. Hezbollah have ensured the Palestinians in Lebanon stay in poverty and squalor so as to feed on the resentment it causes. Islamic Extremists use the Palestinian people to justify terrorism as the IRA used the issue of the brutality of the British Army to justify murdering and terrorising Catholics in their own community.

Beyond the excuses they are all just murdering scum.

Hezbollah have also been involved in attempts to destabilise the country according to Lebanese Christians. It controls some 25% of the national territory. Almost 400,000 of Lebanon’s estimated 4m inhabitants live under its control. It collects its own taxes with a 20% levy, known as “khoms”, on all incomes. It is in fact the de facto government of whole swathes of Lebanon. If Lebanon wont remove them, then Israel must do the job. Any nation that tolerates such a state of affairs is complicit through inaction.

Islam awakening

This is in fact the start of World War 4, with its roots in the victory of Charles Martel over Islam in the Battle of Tours in 732 AD. (19). Islam is once again awakening, and the West must awaken as well.

The 21st Century will either see the rebirth of the West and the rise of Nationalism, or the conquest of the West by Islam via demographics and the use of Oil as an aspect of Asymmetric Warfare. Hezbollah want to destroy Israel, then run the entire Middle East and then use the Middle East and its oil supplies to start a war on the rest of the world.

It is in our long term interests that Hezbollah are ground into dust by Israel as that way we don’t have to do it in the future. (17) (18)

This struggle cannot be avoided, therefore it must be faced and won.

References:

1) Islam Monitor

2) ICT

3) Amnesty

4) Wikipedia

5) Wikipedia

6) Wikipedia

7) Guardian

8) Daily Mail

9) Daily Telegraph

10) Daniel Pipes

11) GWIAS

12) ICT

13) Hindu.com

14) Sovereignty

15) Racismantiblanc

16) BBC

17) World Net Daily

18) Times

19) Wikipedia

20) ICT

21) BBC Northern ireland

22) Wikipedia

 
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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2006, 07:13:38 PM »
The BNP is making real steps towards rehabilitating its past!

Some Judeo-obsessives use passages in the Talmud to argue that Jews are not like every other nation, but have an intrinsic and eternal hostility to gentiles. But the Talmud is not holy scripture, or the purported word of God, but only commentary by famous rabbis. That it contains nasty passages, resembles the fact that the Summa Theologica  of St. Aquinas, and other important works of Christian theology, contain nasty passages. There is nothing intrinsic to the Judaism that requires all Jews to believe in these passages - any more than a good Christian must believe the opinions of medieval theologians in favor of burning heretics at the stake. There is simply no comparison to the Koran, which Islam holds to be the literal words of God Himself, in which He imposes a Divine obligation on every Moslem to wage holy war against non-Moslems, making Islam intrinsically hostile.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/articles/judeo_obsession.htm


That being said, the leadership is not necessarily reflective of the average member. 

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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2006, 07:53:22 PM »
are you guys becoming nazis here is an article i found about the bnp and jews



Both the BNP and its leader, Nick Griffin, have historically promoted anti-Semitism and holocaust denial. The BNP claims that it has now "cast off the leg-iron ... of anti-Semitism"[64] and states that the party has Jewish members, and one of its councillors, Pat Richardson (Epping Forest), is herself Jewish [65]. The party's website states that racially British or European Jews may join the party.[citation needed]

In 1988, The Sunday Times revealed that Holocaust News, a publication that claimed the holocaust was an "evil hoax", was being published by the BNP's then deputy leader, Richard Edmonds, on behalf of a BNP front organisation, the Centre for Historical Review, and distributed by members. John Tyndall, the party's leader, said he was not involved in the publication but that it had his full support.[22]

The 2002 Channel 4 documentary "Young, Nazi and Proud" featured hidden-camera footage of the then BNP youth leader Mark Collett stating his admiration for Adolf Hitler, and stating "I'd never say this on camera, the Jews have been thrown out of every country including England. It's not just persecution. There's no smoke without fire." It also featured footage of visitors to the party's annual "Red White and Blue" festival, some of whom wore the legend "88" (code for HH, "Heil Hitler"). [66] Collett resigned from the party after the documentary's filming, but rejoined shortly afterwards, with Nick Griffin's approval, on the condition that Collett changed his views on the subject.

In 2006, the party's deputy chairman Scott McLean was shown on the TV documentary "Nazi Hate Rock" making Hitler salutes at a white-supremacist cross-burning ceremony where intensely racist songs were sung and jokes made about Auschwitz [67].

On the BNP leader's personal history of holocaust denial and anti-Semitism, see article on Nick Griffin.


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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2006, 09:46:17 PM »
Besides which, the Talmud is holy writ it is the collection of the Jewish Oral law and has just as much standing as the written Torah
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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2006, 09:47:48 PM »
The BNP wants jewish support and theres nothing wrong with that.


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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2006, 10:20:39 PM »
the head guy of bnp even said that "mein kampf " is his bible

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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2006, 10:45:08 PM »
shimon, are you talking about Nick Griffin?

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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2006, 12:39:16 AM »
Has anyone here ever tried to post on StørmFrønt?

The white supremacists are a totally different species of human.  They didn't even let me post in their opposing voices section.  If they suspect even the slightest hint of what they consider 'Jewish characteristics' about you, you are shut out by their intolerance.

And this, unfortunately, is closer to the mentality of the AVERAGE BNP member (if not the reformed leadership).  They spend all their free time in pubs, while our Muslim enemies are in their Islamic libraries studying and making themselves even more powerful.  The average white Brit is a moron, unfortunately, heart-breaking but true.

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2006, 02:38:58 PM »
the head guy of bnp even said that "mein kampf " is his bible
I doubt that Nick Griffin has ever said anything like that. The former leader of the party, John Tyndall, was an anti-Semite, however.

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2006, 02:44:01 PM »
Has anyone here ever tried to post on StørmFrønt?

The white supremacists are a totally different species of human.  They didn't even let me post in their opposing voices section.  If they suspect even the slightest hint of what they consider 'Jewish characteristics' about you, you are shut out by their intolerance.

And this, unfortunately, is closer to the mentality of the AVERAGE BNP member (if not the reformed leadership).  They spend all their free time in pubs, while our Muslim enemies are in their Islamic libraries studying and making themselves even more powerful.  The average white Brit is a moron, unfortunately, heart-breaking but true.
We don't need people who say that White Christians are beer-drinking morons nor people who say that Jews are liberals who worship blacks. Nazis and Gentile-hating Jews like you only seek to divide us.

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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2006, 05:40:41 PM »
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I doubt that Nick Griffin has ever said anything like that. The former leader of the party, John Tyndall, was an anti-Semite, however.
It was Tyndall not Griffin.I think Tyndall has some new party
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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2006, 12:45:49 PM »
Has anyone here ever tried to post on StørmFrønt?

Yeah, I got banned. No great loss.

StørmFrønt is for up and coming homosexuals of the dominated stripe like you see being bottoms at gay leather bars.

Big white men strutting around in black uniforms emblazoned with medals shouting "Heil Hitler" seems to turn them on sexually. Toss in some high school age ignorance of history and you got StørmFrønt. A real boring place to be.

The BNP will never amount to anything special its past is tainted.



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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2006, 09:05:53 AM »
"The BNP will never amount to anything special its past is tainted."

Any political party which opposes the free market and economic liberalism will be the enemy of the foreign-owned press in Britain.

There is no possible way to make the press support the BNP apart from changing public opinion ourselves thereby forcing the newspapers/parasites and the mainstream political parties to copy our rhetoric just to sell copy/win votes.

This will open up the debate and this is already happening in France, where the Front National (no friend of Israel) has become powerful enough to be able to boss the centre-right around.

I am a member of the BNP and we are doing very well thank you very much.

StørmFrønt:

Yes, I used to post on StørmFrønt. The American Nazis are very foolish. They are not even real Nazis since they are pro-capitalist. They blame 'the Jews' or 'the Jew' for globalisation which is utterly ridiculous.

I blame David Duke for this. David Duke could put his energy into helping white people create a positive movement. What are Jewish people supposed to do according to the Duke programme? Unexist themselves?

He purports to be in opposition to groups like the ADL (a very powerful bunch of people, actually) yet, he only encourages them. I consider DD to be part of the very same apparatus!
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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2006, 01:36:34 PM »
The Jewish communities of Britain will never support the BNP, whatever the BNP says, so long as the BNP remains 1) marginal (and sorry, but 5% of council votes is nothing - the Lib Dems often get 20% in national elections to Parliament and most agree they have little chance of ever becoming more than a small minority of MPs) and 2) hands-off with regard to Israel.

*Most* British people are sympathetic to the Palestinians, therefore a fortiori this applies to BNP members, all of whom are at least familiar if not sympathetic with David Duke's theories on the Jews and the Holocaust. 

In the long-run, British people will be consoled by their iPods and their television, and will sit idly by and watch Asians and blacks take over.  No one has ever created an ideology strong enough to oppose the globalization we are experiencing right now.  It is irresistible and the only way to get people to oppose it is to capitalize on large numbers of excluded people who do not benefit from the materialistic prosperity we are seeing.  Unfortunately lots of these people happen to be Muslims, anti-Semites, and commies.

There's no way out of this.  The white race is simply going to die a slow and protracted death.  We will be literally pricked to death, until one day we find that we are gone forever.


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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2006, 07:50:36 AM »
The Jewish Communities in Britain may not support the BNP, however, it is possible that the Euro-nationalist parties might be able to support the Kahanists in Israel. I would like that very much. I think that it would be the right thing to do.

I am not benefiting from material prosperity, so I oppose globalisation. I believe that there will be a surge in popular support for the BNP after another muslim terror attack.

Another factors is the Peak Oil theory. When resources are spare, people realise that charity begins at home.

I disagree with your analysis. However, I agree with you that people are satisfied with material comforts for the time being. All that could be taken away from them. Indeed, I hope that it will!


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Re: Brit extreme right right party calls for support of Israel
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2006, 08:02:51 PM »
The Jewish Communities in Britain may not support the BNP, however, it is possible that the Euro-nationalist parties might be able to support the Kahanists in Israel.

Yes.  :)  But it is not going to happen, is it?

Here's one lady who is highly skeptical of the BNP:

November 12, 2006
The troika of bigotry


by Melanie Phillips

The unholy alliance between left-wingers and Islamic fascists — ‘We are all Hezbollah now’ — has been much discussed. Less noticed, but no less remarkable, is that both Islamists and their left-wing allies are almost indistinguishable, in their discourse of hate towards Jews and Israel, from white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

Now yet another twist is being given to this union of unspeakables. The British left and the neo-fascist British National Party are engaged in a grotesque tactical two-step around the issue of the Jews.

In an attempt to shed its thuggish image and win votes, the BNP leadership has repeatedly claimed that it has renounced the party’s defining antisemitism. In the BNP newsletter, party theorist John Bean criticised the ‘Judeo-obsessives’ in the ranks. With no sense of irony, he wrote that it was foolish to tar all Jews as villains when ‘only some of them’ were wrong-doers, and that they should be treated ‘like any other foreign people’ and as neither ‘intrinsically evil nor always the enemy’.

Don’t you just love that ‘always’? Of course, the whole thing is beyond satire. Visceral Jew-haters such as the BNP don’t suddenly see the light; indeed, as is plain from the above, even the language they use in attempting to disavow the prejudice is riddled with it. They remain as obsessed with ‘the Jewish question’ as they ever were. The only thing that has changed is their strategy.

They are trying to bury their reputation for thuggery and neo-fascism, and to pose instead as a respectable nationalist party defending Britain against the threat to its way of life. It won’t wash. Like all fascist parties, the BNP manipulate for their own ends genuine concerns that the political class has brushed aside. The concern today is radical Islamism. But the BNP’s platform against Muslims masks a racist hostility towards all immigrants, foreigners and Jews.

Despite the manifest absurdity of the BNP’s attempt to cosy up to the Jews, however, the left has seized on its manoeuvrings in order to smear Jews and Zionists as being the neo-fascists’ natural allies.

In the Communist Party’s Morning Star newspaper last September, Geoff Brown cited both the BNP’s support for Israel against Hezbollah, and chairman Nick Griffin’s support for the Jewish writer Bat Ye’or who has warned of an Islamist takeover of Europe, as evidence of a Jewish/fascist axis.

As was clear from this article, such a vicious attempt to link the Jews with the fascists was prompted in large measure by an attempt to bury the link between Islamic fascism and the left.

At a deeper level, however, it also solves a major intellectual problem for left-wingers. Abhorrence of the Holocaust is a defining issue for their self-image as anti-fascists and anti-racists. But hatred of Israel, founded on the ashes of the Shoah, has come to be no less defining an issue for that same self-image. With such a fundamental contradiction, something has to give.

One way to do it is subliminally to remove the Jews from the Holocaust. Since the left claim that the Jews of Israel have now turned into Nazis and that Muslims are the new Jews, it is a logical next step to invent an alliance between the Jews and the BNP —with the neo-fascists eagerly playing along with this odious fiction.

There is thus a fearful symmetry. The BNP believe Holocaust denial is essential to remove a major encumbrance to the destruction of democracy. The left have now invented their own form of Holocaust denial to remove a major encumbrance to the destruction of Israel.

The parallels go wider and deeper. Thus the former BNP chairman John Tyndall has ranted about ‘The wrath and hatred of organised Jewry’ which was on display in the ‘insane war in Iraq’ being waged in the interests of, guess who, Israel. Thus John Bean wrote: ‘None of this is to deny, of course, that Jews like Paul Wolfowitz , who engineered a war in which British soldiers are dying to prop up a New World Order that plans the liquidation of Britain, are complete bastards.’ Thus Nick Griffin has written that the neo-cons are ‘an unofficial overseas agitprop department of Israel’s ruling Likud party’.

Now where else, I wonder, have we heard this kind of garbage about Iraq and Wolfowitz and the right-wing Jewish cabal controlling American foreign policy? As Andrew McKibbin remarked about Griffin’s comment, in another article in the Morning Star: ‘One could read the above words in the Guardian!’

Never was a truer word spoken. The fact is that the left and the neo-fascists share more than either would care to admit. The Jews are the victims of both of them.

http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=463