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Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« on: November 07, 2007, 02:30:01 PM »
I have met Julia Gorin a few times when she used to live in New York.  Now since we're both right wing and Jewish, and have blogs, I decided to write to her to have her clarify once and for all, if Serbs are friends of the Jews.  I also told her about the forum, and how the Serbs here love her, and send her their regards.

Anyway, here's what Julia wrote to me:

that's a favorite ploy. they also like to say that Belgrade was the first
"Juden Frei" city in Yugoslavia. The Croats WERE Nazis. The Serbs resisted,
which is why the Sajmiste camp was placed smack in the middle of Belgrade as
opposed to remote areas like every other camp on the planet. It was to
intimidate the Serbs, who weren't easily intimidated. The Nedic guy was the
one who was set up in a similar fashion to the Vichy Regime, when it was
clear that Serbia wasn't going to be able to resist the Germans. However, of
ALL the people in Europe, the Serbs resisted more than anyone, knowing it
was a suicide mission. So like every other invaded country, there was a
local regime installed that would cooperate. Initially, there'd been a
Serbian prince who decided to cooperate with the Germans a little
prematurely, a little too easily, and the Serbs overthrew him. It was only
later, when Serbia was being occupied by the Germans, that it succumbed. The
important difference is that Croatians and Albanians killed or rounded up
Jews willingly on their own--no occupying army necessary. In fact, the
comparatively humanitarian Nazis had to interfere with the Croats, because
the creative things they were doing to Serbs were getting back to the
occupied population and that population was revolting, causing problems for
the Germans.

The Serbs have no history of anti-Jewish shtick. What there is of it
today--and there is less among Serbs than ALL the former Yugoslav
peoples--is very new, caused by the fact that Jews so easily fell for the
Croatian and Albanian and Bosnian propaganda against Serbs, and supported
bombing Serbia.

Serbs and Jews died in camps together. Not Croats and Jews. Not Bosnian
Muslims and Jews. Not Albanians and Jews. While Albanians, Bosnians and
Croats were setting up their own Nazi divisions, the Serbs were in the camps
with the Jews. There was no Serbian SS division. This makes it all the more
perverted how these animals are able to keep people confused. Albanians like
to say that not a single Jew was given up in Albania. That's becauses the
Italians were the ones occupying Albania, not the Germans. And Italian
fascists weren't interested in rounding up Jews. And there were only 200
Jews in all of Albania to begin with. Kosovo is a different story; they were
all rounded up. Kosovo was occupied by Germans, and had willing Albanian
Nazis (who are still active there, by the way).

But you're getting this from people who to this day tell people that Draza
Mihailovic was a Nazi collaborator. That man was awarded a U.S medal of
honor posthumously--for fighting both Nazis AND commies at the same time.
But because he was fighting Tito's communist Partisans (because Tito made a
rival of him), that makes it easy for the Serb haters to say: See? Why would
he be fighting the partisans unless he was working for the Germans.
They manage to do this despite the well known fact that Draza and his
guerillas saved 500 American pilots, at great sacrifice to his own people.
It's just amazing. I've been meaning to do a blog on this for some time. Not
on the history, but on current attitudes toward Jews by the various former
Yugoslav people, but just haven't gotten around to it. I'll see what there
is to direct you to, though, because I'm writing this in short-hand.

best,
Julia

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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2007, 02:34:30 PM »
Yes i posted yesterday that camp was set up in Belgrade to scare Serbians,also Lisa you should have told her how the croats got jsullivans account stopped
« Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 02:36:28 PM by mord »
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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 02:41:55 PM »
THANK YOU LISA.
THANK YOU JULIA.
THANK YOU SISTERS.

 :) ;) :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2007, 04:36:34 PM »
Could you post a link to Julia Gorin's blog?
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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2007, 04:40:12 PM »
Here is a link to Julia.

With great pleasure:

http://www.juliagorin.com/index.html

 :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2007, 06:09:29 PM »
Hi again everyone.

Here's what Julia Gorin wrote back to me when I told her about how the Serbs on this forum send her their love, and regards:

Oh please send mine back to them! I heard the other day that someone was
banned from YouTube for posting pro-Serb stuff. I haven't investigated yet,
but I'm told it was the work of the Croats and Albanians, or perhaps just
Croats (I'm on deadline and can't think straight--for 3 weeks already).
Thank you all for doing what you're doing!


So I wroter her back and told her about how JTF was banned from YouTube, and how jsullivan777's account was permanently disabled. 

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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2007, 06:13:00 PM »
Wow, she's awesome.  Very impressive and well informed letter to you, especially for being off the top of her head!

This clarifies the Serbian vs. Croatian role during WWII much better for me, thanks for posting Lisa!
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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2007, 07:00:51 PM »
Can i use this text for the English section of our website [www.gruene-pest.de]?
"Cities run by progressives don't know how to police. ... Thirty cities went up last night, I went and looked at every one of them. Every one of them has a progressive Democratic mayor." Rudolph Giuliani

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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2007, 07:17:44 PM »
I should think so.  But be sure to include a link back to Julia's blog, and this forum.

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2007, 07:21:49 PM »
I should think so.  But be sure to include a link back to Julia's blog, and this forum.

Thank you. I will link it to this thread and the blog of Mrs. Gorin.

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Done!

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Re: Here's What Julia Gorin Personally Wrote To Me
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2007, 01:36:05 PM »
She should make an account here. She sounds great.

She sounds like an Angel.

 O0
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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