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Offline Eliezer Ben Avraham

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Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« on: November 13, 2007, 09:26:10 PM »
I was recently studying this in the Shulchan Arukh and was surprised to see how many laws there were. I knew that all the candles has to be on the same level, but I didn't know for example, that the candles have to be in a straight line and cannot be in a circle.
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 09:48:45 PM »
Does anyone know why so many menorahs are made in circles (even traditional ones) when the Shulchan Arukh clearly forbids it. Is there another source that says it is permissable or not?
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 10:01:37 PM »
I've never seen a circular one.  I believe it's only the branches that can't be in a circle...
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2007, 10:05:07 PM »
http://dailyhalacha.com/displayResult.asp?CategoryID=19

Laws of Hannukah. Available both in Text and Audio, also available is quick summary.
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2007, 10:10:42 PM »
I wonder if Muslim Nazi's would make good candles.
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2007, 10:21:00 PM »
Quote from: takebackourtemple on November 19, 2007, 10:10:42 PM
I wonder if Muslim Nazi's would make good candles.
Not Kosher!
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 11:09:25 PM »
Quote from: OdKahaneChai on November 19, 2007, 10:01:37 PM
I've never seen a circular one.  I believe it's only the branches that can't be in a circle...
The candles? Yea thats what I mean and I have seen a lot of them, that do have them in a circle, and not the modern type ones that dont even have them on the same level...
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 06:16:48 AM »
Quote from: OdKahaneChai on November 19, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: takebackourtemple on November 19, 2007, 10:10:42 PM
I wonder if Muslim Nazi's would make good candles.
Not Kosher!

  That was my gut feeling. Maybe the Gentiles can use Muslim Nazis as candles for lighting their Christmas trees and other decorations or would it also unkosher those.
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 08:50:16 PM »
Quote from: takebackourtemple on November 20, 2007, 06:16:48 AM
Quote from: OdKahaneChai on November 19, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: takebackourtemple on November 19, 2007, 10:10:42 PM
I wonder if Muslim Nazi's would make good candles.
Not Kosher!

  That was my gut feeling. Maybe the Gentiles can use Muslim Nazis as candles for lighting their Christmas trees and other decorations or would it also unkosher those.
besides Kashrut, who wants to bring Muslims closer?!!!! We are working so hard to drive them away and here you are bringing them closer
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Re: Laws of Lighting the Menorah
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 09:35:59 PM »
Quote from: lou13ss on November 20, 2007, 08:50:16 PM
Quote from: takebackourtemple on November 20, 2007, 06:16:48 AM
Quote from: OdKahaneChai on November 19, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: takebackourtemple on November 19, 2007, 10:10:42 PM
I wonder if Muslim Nazi's would make good candles.
Not Kosher!

  That was my gut feeling. Maybe the Gentiles can use Muslim Nazis as candles for lighting their Christmas trees and other decorations or would it also unkosher those.
besides Kashrut, who wants to bring Muslims closer?!!!! We are working so hard to drive them away and here you are bringing them closer
It's all and all just a terrible idea...  ;)
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