The New Girl Order

[OdKahaneChai]

Newman, I was not trying to pit Judaic and Christian theology against one another. Christians don't despise the Talmud/oral Torah. We say that it is brilliant rabbinic commentary, but not necessarily divinely inspired. Some Jews also say that.

No Religious Jews say that.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Chaim said on an old Ask JTF that the Oral Torah is considered inspired, but not quite as literally as Written Torah.

[newman]

Chaim said on an old Ask JTF that the Oral Torah is considered inspired, but not quite as literally as Written Torah.

He was referring to Rabbinical rulings/fences, not the Oral Law itself.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

He was referring to Rabbinical rulings/fences, not the Oral Law itself.

I'd have to ask him again. If I misunderstood I am sorry.

In any way, it is irrelevant. The point I was trying to make is that Christians don't dismiss the Oral Torah.

[OdKahaneChai]

The actual conversation and debate recorded in the Talmud is not Divine, obviously.  But the actual "Torah" in there is just as divine (as the written).

[newman]

He was referring to Rabbinical rulings/fences, not the Oral Law itself.

I'd have to ask him again. If I misunderstood I am sorry.

In any way, it is irrelevant. The point I was trying to make is that Christians don't dismiss the Oral Torah.

That's completely illogical, CF.

If they accepted Oral Law they wouldn't/couldn't be christian.

Name ONE church that accepts the Oral Law as Law.

[Joe Schmo]

I think I am one of the rare exceptions, that I was born in a culture where women are not seen as being less than a man, and women learn from an early age to be an individual and do what you want to do with your life.

If you want kids, or career or both, its totally expectable.

New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote, and see that women are human beings as much as any man.

Freedom is something that is a right not a privilege.

I could never see how any woman, can live under rules of being sub human. And I think many modern women are now seeing their own self worth. And so they should.

This sounds like something straight out of the Feminist Manifesto.

[Joe Schmo]

New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote, and see that women are human beings as much as any man.

Doesn't New Zealand have the world's highest suicide rate?

[OdKahaneChai]

New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote, and see that women are human beings as much as any man.

Doesn't New Zealand have the world's highest suicide rate?

What does that have to do with anything?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Newman, you yourself are not "accepting" Oral Law if you believe in any kind of contraception.

However, what I meant is that Christians would view the OL the same way we would the writings of any good modern theologian--potentially brilliant and wonderful, but not necessarily divine word.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Scriabin, why is all feminism evil?

Show me, Biblically.

[newman]

Newman, you yourself are not "accepting" Oral Law if you believe in any kind of contraception.

However, what I meant is that Christians would view the OL the same way we would the writings of any good modern theologian--potentially brilliant and wonderful, but not necessarily divine word.

Oral Law applies only to Jews.

The Oral Law stipulates that the Laws that govern gentiles are the 7 Laws of Noach. Nowhere in the 7 Laws is contraception for gentiles prohibited.

The mere fact that christians suppose the Ten Commandments of the Jews apply to them means they reject the Oral Law.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

The Ten Commandments apply to all mankind.

Nobody was saved without being a Jew.

[newman]

The Ten Commandments apply to all mankind.

Nobody was saved without being a Jew.

Wrong on both counts.

The 613 mitzvot of the Jews are contained in the 10 commandments and apply ONLY to Jews.

Judaism has always held that NO gentile need become Jewish to be saved.

Ask Lubab (or any orthodox Rabbi) if you don't believe me.

[Kiwi]

I think I am one of the rare exceptions, that I was born in a culture where women are not seen as being less than a man, and women learn from an early age to be an individual and do what you want to do with your life.

If you want kids, or career or both, its totally expectable.

New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote, and see that women are human beings as much as any man.

Freedom is something that is a right not a privilege.

I could never see how any woman, can live under rules of being sub human. And I think many modern women are now seeing their own self worth. And so they should.

This sounds like something straight out of the Feminist Manifesto.

I should be but its not, its straight out of the idea we are human beings, not mullahs animals.

[Kiwi]

New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote, and see that women are human beings as much as any man.

Doesn't New Zealand have the world's highest suicide rate?

What does that have to do with anything?

Nothing as normal, and no it doesn't that belongs to Japan. 

[Joe Schmo]

Scriabin, why is all feminism evil?

Show me, Biblically.

Don't ask me.  I'm the furthest thing from a Bible scholar.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Wrong on both counts.

The 613 mitzvot of the Jews are contained in the 10 commandments and apply ONLY to Jews.

Judaism has always held that NO gentile need become Jewish to be saved.

Ask Lubab (or any orthodox Rabbi) if you don't believe me.

I'm not an expert on that. I have always been told differently. What about yourself? Are you a rabbi?

[Joe Schmo]

New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote, and see that women are human beings as much as any man.

Doesn't New Zealand have the world's highest suicide rate?

What does that have to do with anything?

Nothing as normal, and no it doesn't that belongs to Japan. 

Newzealand is high on the list.

Anyhow, suicide is part of Japan's history.  New Zealand has no excuse.

[newman]

Wrong on both counts.

The 613 mitzvot of the Jews are contained in the 10 commandments and apply ONLY to Jews.

Judaism has always held that NO gentile need become Jewish to be saved.

Ask Lubab (or any orthodox Rabbi) if you don't believe me.

I'm not an expert on that. I have always been told differently. What about yourself? Are you a rabbi?

No.

But like any sensible person I listen to the Rabbis on matters of religion and not TV preachers. Just as I get advice from MDs on medical matters and not witch doctors.

Who told you different? An orthodox Rabbi? I doubt it.

[Kiwi]

New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote, and see that women are human beings as much as any man.

Doesn't New Zealand have the world's highest suicide rate?

What does that have to do with anything?

Nothing as normal, and no it doesn't that belongs to Japan. 

Newzealand is high on the list.

Anyhow, suicide is part of Japan's history.  New Zealand has no excuse.

So its high, its has 4 million people one kills himself it makes it a large figure out the population 
Geez 

Japan as still higher, so you question is false in believing its the highest.

You ask a question you already knew the answer to.

Clever