Author Topic: Albanians and jewish history  (Read 19517 times)

0 Members and 9 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Albanians and jewish history
« on: December 13, 2007, 02:47:25 PM »
Hey guys if im correct, my jewish girlfriend told me that albanians helped jewish people back in WW2 by taking them into albanian families and hiding them from nazis. I also had this confirmed from another jewish person i met at a party. Why all this anti albanian terrorism? they are not terrorists, they have their problems but as balck to white as you guys describe it. Thats why serbia always loses in my opinion.

just wanted to share my opnion

good day

Offline JTFFan

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3964
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2007, 02:53:29 PM »
Stop trolling with this nonsense here! >:(

the majority of the muSSlims are iSSlamic terrorists.

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2007, 02:55:19 PM »
Im sorry but please check your jewish books

Offline JTFFan

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3964
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2007, 02:57:25 PM »
Im sorry but please check your jewish books

the Kosovo Albanazis exterminated the righteous Jews and heroic Christian Serbs during WWII!

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2007, 02:59:23 PM »
that is not correct, it is correct however that albanians were pro nazis but that was because they have problems with serbians . then enemy of you enemy is your friend. But in the meantime they protected jewish people in their houses from nazis so it was a double game u can say.

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2007, 03:08:12 PM »
You, you can OBVIOUSLY say anything...

What about this...?

"Himmler would form the Albanian Kosovar Muslim 21st Armed Mountain Division of the SS “Skanderbeg”, Albanische No. 1. The war ended before Himmler could form a second Kosovo Albanian Muslim Waffen SS Division. The first task of Bedri Pejani’s Skanderbeg Nazi SS Division, made up primarily of Kosovo Albanian Muslims, was to round up the Jews of Kosovo, who were subsequently transported to the Nazi concentration camp at Bergen-Belsen, where they were gassed."

From:

http://nedernieuws.wordpress.com/2006/11/17/kosovo-honoring-nazis-and-the-ss-oftewel-het-gelijk-van-marco/


And this link, WHERE ALL JTFers WILL DISCOVER
that the nickname  of this ALBANAZI troll, here,
is one of a leader of the ALBANAZI
SS DIVISION "SKANDERBEG":

http://www.kosovo.net/albnazi.html

"The Skanderbeg Division was made up of Albanian Muslims of the Bektashi and Sunni sects of Islam and several hundred Albanian Roman Catholics, followers of Jon Marko Joni. The total strength of the Skanderbeg Division was 8,500-9,000 men of all ranks."

And about Jews:

"The Skanderbeg Division sought to create an ethnically pure Kosovo-Metohija, 'Kosova' or 'Kosove', cleansed of Orthodox Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies, the untermenschen (subhumans) rayah targeted for extermination. The Skanderbeg Dision played a role in the Holocaust or Final Solution when, during its occupation of Kosovo-Metohija, it rounded up scores of Kosovo Jews and Orthodox Serbs, persons deemed enemies of the Third Reich, who were subsequently deported to concentration camps."

"On September 16, 1943, Dzafer Deva, a member of the Balli Kombetar, organized the Second League of PrizrenY ''in cooperation with the German occupation authorities' which intensified its efforts to ethnically cleanse Kosovo of Serbs and Jews and other non-Albanians. Attacks against Kosovo Serbs increased and intensified. Over 10,000 Kosovo Serbian families were driven out of Kosovo. The Balli Kombetar and the Second League of Prizren were instrumental in the creation of the 21st Waffen Gebirgs Division der SS 'Skanderbeg', which was envisioned as advancing the cause of Greater Albania by making Kosovo ethnically pure, cleansed of Serbs and Jews."
« Last Edit: December 13, 2007, 03:16:17 PM by Husar »
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline JTFFan

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3964
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2007, 03:08:17 PM »
that is not correct, it is correct however that albanians were pro nazis but that was because they have problems with serbians . then enemy of you enemy is your friend. But in the meantime they protected jewish people in their houses from nazis so it was a double game u can say.

"Under the support of Nazi Germany and Islamic pro-Nazi circles from the Middle East Kosovo Albanian Nazis organized persecutions of Orthodox Serbs and Jews."

http://www.kosovo.net/hist2.html

http://www.kosovo.net/ww2kos.html

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2007, 03:18:00 PM »
this doesnt make any sense. hitler making a muslim albanian SS division to gas orhtodox people? and cleanse kosovo of orthodox people?
it also doesnt explain why the serbians didnt immediatly kill all albanians there after WW2 because they lived in peace together in kosovo until 87 or so when the problems started.

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2007, 03:21:54 PM »
From:

http://www.kosovo.net/albnazi.html


" In Kosovska Mitrovica, Jewish shops and stores were closed down and Kosovo Jews were ordered to wear a yellow band to identify themselves as Jews. The seizure of Jewish property was organized and conducted by the Gestapo and members of the Albanian Committee. On May 20, 1941, Dzafer Deva, the leader of the Mitrovica district, ordered the seizure of Jewish property. Jewish businesses were supervised by members of the Albanian Committee. The seizure of Jewish businesses and property was conducted by Mamut Perijuc, Ramiz Mulic and Osman Ibrahimovic, who worked in conjuction with the German Gestapo. Ibrahimovic was the head of the commission overseeing Jewish property. He ordered the demolition of the Jewish synagogue and the destruction of papers and documents in the Jewish archive. In Pristina, the seizure of Jewish property and anti-Jewish measures were undertaken by the Kosovar Albanian regime placed in control and members of the Albanian kosovo.netmittee, Maljus Kosova, president of the Committee, Dzemal beg Ismail Kanli, head of the police, Rasid Memedali, and Rifat Sukri Ramadan.

Yugoslav Jewish survivors blame the Kosovar Albanian Committee for inciting the first and second internments of Kosovo Jews. In the Jewish historical archives of Yugoslavia, the role of the 21st SS Division in the Holocaust and in the genocide of Kosovo Jews and Serbs is described as follows: ''From May 25 to July 2, 1944 the Division 'Skanderbeg' apprehended 510 Jews, Serbs... They were put in jails, while 249 were sent as forced laborers to the Reich.''

The Skanderbeg Division played a hitherto unacknowledged role in the Holocaust, the genocide of European Jewry. In Kosovo: A Short History, Noel Malcolm noted that in the Djakovica region of Kosovo-Metohija, the Skanderbeg Division engaged in ''the round-up and deportation of 281 Jews'' to the concentration-extermination camps in May 1944. According to Malcolm, ''they took part in the most shameful episode in Kosovos wartime history.'' Malcolm, for the most part, ignored the actions or war crimes of the Skanderbeg Division against the Kosovo Serbian population during the same period. Of these 281 Kosovo Jews which the Kosovars deported, more than 200 were killed by the Germans at the Nazi death camp of Belsen. By 1945, 210 of the 551 Kosovo Jews known to reside in Kosovo had been killed.The division sought to create an ethnically pure, homogenous Kosovo, supported by Italy and Germany, a Kosovo ethnically cleansed of Orthodox Serbs, Jews, Gypsies, and other non-Albanians, the untermenschen rayah, not part of ''enlightened Latin Christendom'', not part of the so-called West, not Aryans, but Slavs, who were targeted for extermination."
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2007, 03:27:51 PM »
your site is not the right source to find that information. it is a serbian ran site, I can assure you check your jewish books

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2007, 03:28:22 PM »
this doesnt make any sense.


Of course, it's ALBANAZIac !!!


 hitler making a muslim albanian SS division


himmler, with shitler's "blessing"...YES.

 
to gas orhtodox people?


Are you some revisionnist/negationnist,
you, ALBANAZI ?
What was done in JASENOVAC ?



and cleanse kosovo of orthodox people?


Of Serbian Orthodox Christians and of Jews.
Go back to school,
but not to some ALBANAZI
revisionnist/negationnist one...



it also doesnt explain why the serbians didnt immediatly kill all albanians there after WW2



Remember TITO, you, ALBANAZI....
We Serbs would have killed YOU all,
but TITO protected you, scumbags.



 because they lived in peace together in kosovo until 87 or so when the problems started.


The ALBANAZI "problem"...
we've got THE Solution for you...

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2007, 03:29:47 PM »
your site is not the right source to find that information. it is a serbian ran site, I can assure you check your jewish books



YOU WANT TO MAKE US SERBS GUILTY,
FOR...................REMEMBERING WHAT YOU DID,
ALBANAZIS ?!!!!!

THANK GOD WE'VE GOT OUR SOURCES !!!
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2007, 03:31:47 PM »
Im not an albanazi for crying out loud just wondering why i had 2 confirmations about this  from jewish people from israel.
 >:(

Offline JTFFan

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3964
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2007, 03:32:27 PM »
your site is not the right source to find that information. it is a serbian ran site, I can assure you check your jewish books



YOU WANT TO MAKE US SERBS GUILTY,
FOR...................REMEMBERING WHAT YOU DID,
ALBANAZIS ?!!!!!

THANK G-d WE'VE GOT OUR SOURCES !!!


Husar, this guy is a Albanazi Troll, who wants to unite all Albanazis and destroy the heroic christian Serbs and Vlachs. >:( >:( >:(

We have our sources, Husar O0

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2007, 03:35:30 PM »
There was little history of anti-Semitism in Albania between the local Christians, Muslims, and Jews. Most of the Albanian population was not hostile toward the Jews and helped to hide them during the war, especially when Italy and Germany occupied the country.

On April 7, 1939, Italy invaded and annexed Albania. Jews were exiled from the coastal port cities and moved to Albania’s interior. Several Austrian and German families took refuge in Tirana and Durazzo in 1939 in hope of making it eventually to the United States or South America. Many Jewish refugees also passed through Albania on their way to Palestine. These refugees were well treated by the Italian forces and by the local population. Jewish refugee families began to scatter throughout Albania and assimilate into society. Jewish children continued to attend school, but under false names and religions

im just trying to put up an argument. im dutch and i Live in belgium

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2007, 03:37:21 PM »
Nevertheless, many Albanians joined the SS Division “Skanderbeg” and committed atrocities against the Serbian and Jewish populations of Kosovar. Some refugees were eventually placed in a transit camp in Kavaje, and from there sent to Italy. At one point, nearly 200 Jews were placed in the Kavaje camp. Some Albanian officials tried to rescue these Jews of Kavaje, by issuing identity papers to hide them in the capital Tirana

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2007, 03:38:08 PM »
There was little history of anti-Semitism in Albania between the local Christians, Muslims, and Jews. Most of the Albanian population was not hostile toward the Jews and helped to hide them during the war, especially when Italy and Germany occupied the country.

On April 7, 1939, Italy invaded and annexed Albania. Jews were exiled from the coastal port cities and moved to Albania’s interior. Several Austrian and German families took refuge in Tirana and Durazzo in 1939 in hope of making it eventually to the United States or South America. Many Jewish refugees also passed through Albania on their way to Eretz Yisrael. These refugees were well treated by the Italian forces and by the local population. Jewish refugee families began to scatter throughout Albania and assimilate into society. Jewish children continued to attend school, but under false names and religions (because of nazis)

"Because" of ALBANAZIS.


Jews under FALSE names and religions, "assimilate".....?


That's "albanian judeophilia" ?

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2007, 03:39:08 PM »
and u also had dutch nazis and belgian nazis and french nazis and spanish nazis etc. they killed millions of jews

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2007, 03:39:24 PM »
Nevertheless, many Albanians joined the SS Division “Skanderbeg” and committed atrocities against the Serbian and Jewish populations of Kosovar. Some refugees were eventually placed in a transit camp in Kavaje, and from there sent to Italy. At one point, nearly 200 Jews were placed in the Kavaje camp. Some Albanian officials tried to rescue these Jews of Kavaje, by issuing identity papers to hide them in the capital Tirana

Wait...SS and savers...? Yeah, logic !!!

 :D :D :D
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline JTFFan

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3964
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2007, 03:39:58 PM »
That site you gave us, we're probably Vlachs who saved or helped some of the Jews in Albania.

Not the Albanazis. That site probably didn't make a distinction between the Vlachs which were a christian people.

In the village Voskopoja, you have a star of david somewhere in the village, I have pictures, that is a Vlach village that was burned by Albanazis and Bolsheviks!

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2007, 03:40:11 PM »
and u also had dutch nazis and belgian nazis and french nazis and spanish nazis etc. they killed millions of jews

You forgot your own kind: the ALBANAZIS.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline Joni500

  • New JTFer
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2007, 03:42:16 PM »
I am right and u guys are right just exxagurating 10000x  O0

Offline Husar

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3240
  • I drink wine out of nazis' skulls.
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2007, 03:42:52 PM »
that is not correct, it is correct however that albanians were pro nazis but that was because they have problems with serbians . then enemy of you enemy is your friend. But in the meantime they protected jewish people in their houses from nazis so it was a double game u can say.

I have "problems",
I turn into an SS BUTCHER...
NORMAL, I'm an ALBANAZI....

 8)

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

Offline JTFFan

  • Ultimate JTFer
  • *******
  • Posts: 3964
Re: Albanians and jewish history
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2007, 03:43:12 PM »
and u also had dutch nazis and belgian nazis and french nazis and spanish nazis etc. they killed millions of jews

You forgot your own kind: the ALBANAZIS.

Husar, this guy is a troll. He created his own site: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/albania.html

I can't believe what this Albanazi guy says. If I would, it would be the Vlachs which might have helped the Jews in Albania.