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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2006, 02:44:25 PM »
How much did you enjoy watching this??  Really?

Now don't start with all that UnPC, reverse racism shyt.  You know the type of response in the fashion of Pee Wee Herman, "I know you are but what am I?"

What's missing from the beginning of this clip is where whe prefaces the monologue with " This is dedicated to all of our proud men and women overseas who are defending our American freedom over in Iraq."

Cosmo Krammer for President 2008!


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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 03:55:01 PM »
I once went into the shops in town only to see posters of black men with white women, black male mannikins with white female ones, white girls carrying black dolls, and their white mothers singing along to black music.  All the while 50 Cent posters under which blonde female employees were stacking shelves.  I got lots of funny looks.  They were all like, 'What's this filthy piece of garbage doing here, interupting our pilgrimmage to our beloved negro?'

I was a white man and condemned on that account.

White women prefer black men.

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2006, 05:00:37 PM »
Here in DC, I've met/encountered many black women who will only date white Jewish men.  It seems that usually very dark skinned and wear their hair in long braids.  It's my guess that must be a "look" that white Jewish men find attractive.

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 08:13:56 PM »
Do they look like Halle Berry?
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2006, 08:29:18 AM »
Here in DC, I've met/encountered many black women who will only date white Jewish men.  It seems that usually very dark skinned and wear their hair in long braids.  It's my guess that must be a "look" that white Jewish men find attractive.



Yes I have noticed that myself.  I met such a one before, I couldn't stop staring at her as I walked past, and she gave me a big warm smile.  Which was nice because 9 out of 10 black women usually just scowl at white guys.   :-*

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2006, 10:04:05 AM »
Shalom, that is nice to see but I'll stick to looking for a Jewish White Woman.  On the topic of Michael Richards, one never hears what set him off on his rant.  Did the blacks in the audience slur him with racial remarks like "honkey" or "cracker"?  One never hears any complaints when black comedians; Dave Shapelle, Chris Rock, black politicians; Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson calling for the extermination of Ol-Whitey or the Jews or the masses of black rappers who debase Whites constantly?  If Richards were black and the hecklers in the audience were white this would never have seen the light of day.  In fact I'll go further, Good for Richards! It is about time whites spoke out against black filth that infects our society with crime, drugs, rape, murder and every other aspect of inhumanity.  Not all blacks are bad but the fact that in 400 years most cannot speak English, blame Ol-Whitey or the Jew for their own situations, even while continually getting mass billions for social programs promoting morality, economic "Affirmative Action" and even continual Marxist wealth transfer externally in "foreign aid" to their brethren in Africa....with results being less then admirable....blame ol-whitey?  I don't hate blacks, I hate ignorance and closed mindedness....  A Black woman debated me and called me a degenerate because I stated fact that she didn't believe too that she insulted me when I told her that Martin L. King Jr. was a Communist, which she didn't believe....  Enough is enough...  You don't see black WANTING to go to Africa and help their own but you do see them continually blaming all others for their inability to progress....
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2006, 12:21:17 PM »
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If Richards were black and the hecklers in the audience were white this would never have seen the light of day.  In fact I'll go further, Good for Richards! It is about time whites spoke out against black filth that infects our society with crime, drugs, rape, murder and every other aspect of inhumanity.

You tell'em Pee Wee.  Would it had made any difference to you if Mel Gibson were black?  Would you still be using the same ole tired "Blacks get away with this, Jesse Jackson  that.." argument?

When has Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle attacked a white person in the audience with racial slurs?

I don't have whites.  I just hate phonies.  If you like what Michael Richards did, just admit it and spare us the BS.

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2006, 12:37:52 PM »
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If Richards were black and the hecklers in the audience were white this would never have seen the light of day.  In fact I'll go further, Good for Richards! It is about time whites spoke out against black filth that infects our society with crime, drugs, rape, murder and every other aspect of inhumanity.

You tell'em Pee Wee.  Would it had made any difference to you if Mel Gibson were black?  Would you still be using the same ole tired "Blacks get away with this, Jesse Jackson  that.." argument?

When has Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle attacked a white person in the audience with racial slurs?

I don't have whites.  I just hate phonies.  If you like what Michael Richards did, just admit it and spare us the BS.

Chapelle and Rock don't need to attack audience members with racial slurs, they constantly do it in their routines.  Nearly every sketch on Chapelle's show rips on whites while attempting to make blacks look good.

Of course what Richards did was fine.  Was there any blood shed?  Was anyone killed? 

My point is that whites need to stop being afraid of offending blacks.  I applaud Michael Richards.

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2006, 03:43:43 PM »
MassuhDGoodName says:...

Those folks in that club "just ain't got no upbringin'!

Anyone heckling a performer onstage should have been immediately removed from the premises and barred from ever returning.

And; anyone spewing filth of anykind, be it hatred, race-baiting, or other, should also have been immediately removed from the premises and barred from ever returning.

A comedian who is unable to respond to a heckler without resorting to filth and hatred (1) is no comedian; and (2) has no business in the entertainment industry.

It's tragically sad to see just what a low, degenerative state the U.S.A. is undergoing.

The truth is that Ha'Shem created our racial differences and also made each race aware of the others' different characteristics for a purpose; and that purpose is not for us to hate each other.

Trash is Trash, whatever the race or ethnicity; Righteousness and uprightness are not the exclusive characteristic of any one race or people.

People choose to be what they are.


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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2006, 05:24:01 PM »
If you listen to the whole tape, the darkies where screaming cracker, craker. At first when I heard Richards, I said to mysefl what a mensch. When I watched the news this morning and saw him bowing to that self hating jew seinfeld, I said he is nothing more that a coward. Who made the word [censored] so sacred? The primitives call themselves that all the time. We all know by being brain washed by black history month that these primtives are super intellegent that they must be right. So [censored] sounds good to me.

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2006, 05:34:10 PM »
It's not possible to say whether Richards was wrong for his rant. Marzutra is right. We need to know the context. And we probably never will.

Like Chaim often points out, we have the right to fight back when certain segments (be they Blacks, Arabs, or even Jewish leftists) try to harm us. We have a right to point out that so many Blacks are robbing and raping Whites. We have a right to protest racist Affirmative Action policies. We can speak out against Black leaders and their followers who attack Jews, and encourage and celebrate the murder of Jews. And In Richards' case, he has the right to fight back if the guy called him a cracker, or said he had no talent, 'cause he's White.

But let's assume for the moment that Richards was not provoked.

I can't say it's OK to attack Blacks just because they're Black. Never mind that it's wrong (we can argue about that forever), but it's just plain dumb. Also it's no different than those who hate Jews because we're Jews.

What if a Black man chooses to be a Righteous Gentile, and observe the seven Hoahite Laws, and worship the G-d of Israel, and stand in support of G-d's People? You cannot attack such a person because his skin is black.

As far as dating Black women: If you prefer White women over Black women there's nothing racist about it. It's no different than finding blondes more attractive than brunettes. On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with a White Jewish man dating a Black Jewish woman (I would), and vice versa.

By the way...

Whatever you think about Richards, watch over the next few weeks, and compare how he gets treated with how Mel Gibson was treated. And remember, Richards was yelling in a fit of anger, and probably didn't mean what he said. Gibson got drunk and said what he meant (but had never dared say when he was sober).

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2006, 05:36:50 PM »
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Chapelle and Rock don't need to attack audience members with racial slurs, they constantly do it in their routines.  Nearly every sketch on Chapelle's show rips on whites while attempting to make blacks look good.

Of course what Richards did was fine.  Was there any blood shed?  Was anyone killed? 

My point is that whites need to stop being afraid of offending blacks.  I applaud Michael Richards.
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I agree with you 100% i'm tired of hearing all the bad things the evil Imperialist Ol-Whitey had done while never does one look at the good things.  Perhaps blacks might wish to return to Africa so they can compare?  I'll bet the Ol-Whities here will treat them much better than their black brethren there. 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2006, 05:45:12 PM »
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Chapelle and Rock don't need to attack audience members with racial slurs, they constantly do it in their routines.  Nearly every sketch on Chapelle's show rips on whites while attempting to make blacks look good.

Of course what Richards did was fine.  Was there any blood shed?  Was anyone killed? 

My point is that whites need to stop being afraid of offending blacks.  I applaud Michael Richards.
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I agree with you 100% i'm tired of hearing all the bad things the evil Imperialist Ol-Whitey had done while never does one look at the good things.  Perhaps blacks might wish to return to Africa so they can compare?  I'll bet the Ol-Whities here will treat them much better than their black brethren there. 

And the whites treat them a lot better than the Mexicans will when they take over.
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2006, 05:49:55 PM »
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White women prefer black men.

That's a pretty broad brush....SOME white women prefer black men, not all.  

Character and intellect are the attributes I find most attractive.  The physical characteristics are much less important....after all, they are fleeting, temporary......gone in a heartbeat with death, gone as a result of disease or disfiguring accident.  Men may look more to physical attributes, women much less so.  Physical attributes alone do not provide a solid basis for a relationship....some would go so far as to say they are unimportant.

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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2006, 06:02:29 PM »
Now that is so true Gentile Lady.  You are correct there.  I feel that this "shvartzism" has everything to do with media and politically directed Marxist disinformation to pressure white women to "embrace diversity" or towards "multiculturalism" to the point that if that woman has any pride, self respect or any admiration towards her heritage she is labelled a "racist" and isolatied especially within Academia.  I find it so repulsive that problack is admiralble, to the point of re-writing history to make blacks even more "cool" but if a white holds any self pride....Nazi!  You sound inteligent.  Kol Hakovod and welcome... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2006, 08:18:06 PM »
Thank You, Marzutra.  I do feel welcome here....and I will try to contribute to discussions, as well as learn. 

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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2006, 07:03:38 AM »
Thank You, Marzutra.  I do feel welcome here....and I will try to contribute to discussions, as well as learn. 
You are most welcome.  Here people say what they wish and it is debated, some agree some don't but most who make any statements whatsoever have the facts ready to support them and too suggest books, readings etc.  It is not a site where one spews hatred and filth but one that tries to dispell all the disinformation brainwashing righteous Jews and righteous Gentiles causing their dumbing down, closed mindedness, intolerance and total hatred for themselves.  This is what Liberalism/Socialism/Humanism/Marxism/Communism and subsequently Islam has brought....ignorance.  Personally I feel that if Michael Richards was black and those hooligans making trouble were white, there would be no fuss only two beaten up or murdered whites.  It is sad when Black leaders; Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan can state publically "Whites are Devils and should be exterminated" or worse.  Rap music attacks women down to the lowest, advocates racism, sexism, drugs, crime and murder yet nothing is said let alone done...  Chris rock can say he hates "crackers" and "white muthafakas" all evening and nothing is said nor done.  Double standards or just immense dumbing down of Ol-whitey?  Yes what Richards did was, is some cases, wrong....but so was slavery.  If slavery had never happened, just think how different the entire civilized world would be.  Has nothing to do with bigotry just fact.  Question: As a woman are you not offended at Rap/Hip-Hop "music" that paints women as whores to be used and dumped off like a piece of dirty clothing?  I often ask myself why a woman, because a White Male cannot do it, doesn't go to a shrink and tell him that she is having a very hard time coping with life because everywhere she looks she sees gutter trash and hears this rap "music" treating women like animals.  After the woman's situation is filed with the shrink and she is put on medication, probably paxil for depression, she can go to any creditable attorney who would take the case pro-bono.  She'd list as many black...and those few white...rappers, black record labels, black radio stations, movie/production studios, nightclubs, comedians, black racist politicians...virtually any person or establishment spewing this hate filled degeneracy for a million to 10 million each.  It would be in the news, ALL would settle out of court.  The woman would be worth a hundrend million in a year or so and the entire Black society would be vanquished from their continual hate mongering via "music" or other "black urban" culture...  just posing a question. Kol tov Baruch HaShem
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2006, 08:02:58 AM »
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If Richards were black and the hecklers in the audience were white this would never have seen the light of day.  In fact I'll go further, Good for Richards! It is about time whites spoke out against black filth that infects our society with crime, drugs, rape, murder and every other aspect of inhumanity.

You tell'em Pee Wee.  Would it had made any difference to you if Mel Gibson were black?  Would you still be using the same ole tired "Blacks get away with this, Jesse Jackson  that.." argument?

When has Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle attacked a white person in the audience with racial slurs?

I don't have whites.  I just hate phonies.  If you like what Michael Richards did, just admit it and spare us the BS.

Chapelle and Rock don't need to attack audience members with racial slurs, they constantly do it in their routines.  Nearly every sketch on Chapelle's show rips on whites while attempting to make blacks look good.

Of course what Richards did was fine.  Was there any blood shed?  Was anyone killed? 

My point is that whites need to stop being afraid of offending blacks.  I applaud Michael Richards.

From what I've seen, Dave Chapelle has made fun of shvartzas. That doesn't mean that he doesn't criticize whites. But at least he points out the problems of blacks here in America.

Here is a video of Chris Rock criticizing niggers. Please, pardon the vulgarity. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_q8LxO4wnCQ

For some reason, I had trouble posting the link to the video and replacing the URL address with the text "Here is a video". Odd...
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2006, 08:07:32 AM »
As to your question........

I understand the sentiment, but as an atty, I can tell you that offensive "speech" alone is not actionable.  Is it reprehensible, disgusting, degrading, demoralizing?  Yes.  Actionable?  No.

I ignore it and refuse to allow it to degrade my sense of self-worth....or that of my daughter.  AND, I refuse to allow Rap-Crap in my home.

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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2006, 08:34:04 AM »
I agree with you 100%.  I have also seen Chris Rock go on a rant for about 5 minutes within one of his "comedy" sketches attacking "Crackers" saying that he doesn’t' discriminate and hates all "white cracka muthafakas" on and on.  This is comedy?  What really is the difference if one says it and means it in a "comical" way when compared to another who was, probably attacked verbally by racial slurs, and defended himself speaking his mind.  Both are what they happen to "feel" and "believe" the only differences are being that one is "comedy" without hooligans verbally abusing him and the other is anger with hooligans verbally abusing him?  Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson needs their head examined because those two are filthy animals and in no way comparable to good Black men like Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson.  I know most blacks despise whites and Jews even worse.  That is a given.  I can understand and deal with it but if it is really that bad living under or amongst Whites ..please, I invite them to "make Aliyah" back to Africa and truly show their admiration for their blackness and their African part of their "Americanism".  As a matter of fact, I'd rather see my tax dollars going to that instead of the billions wasted in "elevation" programs, racial discrimination "Affirmative Action" programs or Marxist Wealth Transfer programs via: Welfare or Foreign Aid.  At least one would actually see their tax dollars at work. ;)
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2006, 12:21:15 PM »
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If Richards were black and the hecklers in the audience were white this would never have seen the light of day.  In fact I'll go further, Good for Richards! It is about time whites spoke out against black filth that infects our society with crime, drugs, rape, murder and every other aspect of inhumanity.

You tell'em Pee Wee.  Would it had made any difference to you if Mel Gibson were black?  Would you still be using the same ole tired "Blacks get away with this, Jesse Jackson  that.." argument?

When has Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle attacked a white person in the audience with racial slurs?

I don't have whites.  I just hate phonies.  If you like what Michael Richards did, just admit it and spare us the BS.

Chapelle and Rock don't need to attack audience members with racial slurs, they constantly do it in their routines.  Nearly every sketch on Chapelle's show rips on whites while attempting to make blacks look good.

Of course what Richards did was fine.  Was there any blood shed?  Was anyone killed? 

My point is that whites need to stop being afraid of offending blacks.  I applaud Michael Richards.
Michael Richards lost his cool.  He was not professional, and it wasn't part of his act.  All the [censored] he tried to sell to the media later, about his being a performer and improvising---that's a load of pathetic crap.  I think Richards he was justified in humiliating the black heckler, simply because that negro shouldn't have heckled Richards in the first place.  Enough indeed with white guilt.  Negroes that deserve credit for behaving like human beings, as opposed to beasts, will get the credit.  Those that don't---shouldn't be surprised when they are called [censored]-ers by angry whites.
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2006, 02:00:34 PM »
As if there is some difference between calling a black man a niqqer to his face as opposed to saying it behind his back?

I can see that some of you really get off on dehumanizing black people.  I would even bet money that those of you who do actually get a "boost" from doing it, thus the constant obsession with black people and their affairs.

You probably have black-on-white porn from the internet present on your hard drive as we speak.
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2006, 02:53:06 PM »
Richards should be held up as a hero. It is unfortunate that he had to bow down and take back his comments. What are blacks doing seeing a white comic anyway? They should be at a rap contest or car jacking. These blacks are a disgrace to their race. Why were these blacks not selling crack to their owm people, why weren't they pimping the mothers and sisters, and why were they not doing drive by shootings. The aforementioned would have been a more typical black activity then seeing a white comic.

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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2006, 04:15:32 PM »
As if there is some difference between calling a black man a niqqer to his face as opposed to saying it behind his back?

I can see that some of you really get off on dehumanizing black people.  I would even bet money that those of you who do actually get a "boost" from doing it, thus the constant obsession with black people and their affairs.

You probably have black-on-white porn from the internet present on your hard drive as we speak.
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"constant obsession with black people"?!  I think it's the other way around.  It's black people who are obsessed with white people, whether it is black women who want to look like white women, or black youth who spend hours listening to lyrics about killing whitey and the POlice, and about how everything is whitey's fault and how they deserve reparations.

JTF is a civil rights organization---it does not voice opposition to blacks' skin color, which would be racist, but to the prevailing black culture (which glorifies and celebrates all the wrong things while ridiculing and discouraging all the good things), out of which miracuously emerged relatively decent people like Alan Keyes, Clarence Thomas, Bill Cosby and Chris Rock.
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