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Reform Jewish movement anti-gun?
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Cohen on January 06, 2008, 10:20:48 PM ---
Again, we obviously didn't have near the murder rates previous to 1968 that we do now yet are gun laws are even more strict. Maybe it's because decent law abiding citizens can't arm themselves.
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Correct me if I am wrong America has a culture belonging to the wild west, where the "law abiding citizens" slang a gun on there hips. And quite franky most of America has not advanced too much from that.
And yet even than many refused to carry a weapon.
And the logic was not to be afraid of a gun just be afraid of the shooter.
There was laws then, and many killings too. Did it prevent crime because you carried a gun? No it made little difference.
Why you ask?
Because as I have been trying to get you to think about was the men back then are far different to the men now.
A gun back then was a tool, something to be used, it rank as important as a good saddle and a horse.
Now a days it is seen as a measure of your manhood. Which is wrong.
Regardless of gun or not, the man standing in front of you must not be different at any stage.
Proof of this a good soldier can fight with what ever they can lay there hands on, or even bare handed.
Their gun is only a tool which they can use, and ranks in importance as their helmet, knife, pac.
Can you see the difference, I am saying you need to be more than just someone who carries a gun.
We spoke about C18, those guys are nothing with a weapon, do you want to be like them. You want Jews to have a false belief in weapons, instead of their own abilities.
Weapons in the hands of brainless twats are dangerous but easy to over power, weapons in the hands of skilled focused people are unstoppable.
You can only become skilled and learned if you are taught, and structured.
Not willy nilly gun ownership.
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Bob_M on January 06, 2008, 11:26:08 PM ---Gday :)
--- Quote ---Gday Bob very easy, 22 years in a prison system they do not mellow.
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I would think that most will, after many years in prison, I'm sure they would not want to go back or waste any more time on an event that was so Juvenal to begin with. Try being more optimistic and not so pessimistic, trust me, It's good for the soul. :)
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I am not optimistic or pessimistic I am a realist.
Welcome to the forum, wanna do an intro post O0 I am sure the rest of the forum will be glad to meet you.
Bob_M:
Your posts seem to indicate a more pessimistic tone than opptomistic, thats why I mentioned it. Im more a realist myself also. The USA is not still in the wild west culture, yet thats what people in other countries always seem to think, probably because they see nothing but Hollywood movies that dramatize those old days. Things are different here now, of course. I carry on a regular basis a 2" Bbl .38 Special, but Im not
carrying it so that I can measure my manhood, just for self protection. Carrying a firearm has not changed my everyday behavior. I still take the same precautions that I used to before I carried. The only difference is that I am armed now, most everywhere I go. I ain't John Wayne or a gangster wannabe.
BTW, A gun is still just a tool and gun ownership is not "nilly willy", in America, it's our 2nd Amendment right.
:)
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Bob_M on January 07, 2008, 12:06:52 AM ---Your posts seem to indicate a more pessimistic tone than opptomistic, thats why I mentioned it. Im more a realist myself also. The USA is not still in the wild west culture, yet thats what people in other countries always seem to think, probably because they see nothing but Hollywood movies that dramatize those old days. Things are different here now, of course. I carry on a regular basis a 2" Bbl .38 Special, but Im not
carrying it so that I can measure my manhood, just for self protection. Carrying a firearm has not changed my everyday behavior. I still take the same precautions that I used to before I carried. The only difference is that I am armed now, most everywhere I go. I ain't John Wayne or a gangster wannabe.
BTW, A gun is still just a tool and gun ownership is not "nilly willy", in America, it's our 2nd Amendment right.
:)
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Right or not, responsible gun ownership is not a catch phrase that America is famous for. More of its Famous for this phrase "rooting, tooting and shooting". :)
JTFFan:
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 07, 2008, 12:59:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bob_M on January 07, 2008, 12:06:52 AM ---Your posts seem to indicate a more pessimistic tone than opptomistic, thats why I mentioned it. Im more a realist myself also. The USA is not still in the wild west culture, yet thats what people in other countries always seem to think, probably because they see nothing but Hollywood movies that dramatize those old days. Things are different here now, of course. I carry on a regular basis a 2" Bbl .38 Special, but Im not
carrying it so that I can measure my manhood, just for self protection. Carrying a firearm has not changed my everyday behavior. I still take the same precautions that I used to before I carried. The only difference is that I am armed now, most everywhere I go. I ain't John Wayne or a gangster wannabe.
BTW, A gun is still just a tool and gun ownership is not "nilly willy", in America, it's our 2nd Amendment right.
:)
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Right or not, responsible gun ownership is not a catch phrase that America is famous for. More of its Famous for this phrase "rooting, tooting and shooting". :)
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yes ;)
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