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Reform Jewish movement anti-gun?
Kiwi:
--- Quote ---Solution to criminals? Stop giving them plea bargains and allowing them back onto the streets, keep them locked up or execute them. We are too soft on criminals.
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So you would increase the laws on punishment like Nazi Germany did?
Is that your only solution?
OK you tighten punishments, the 18 year old kid now is 40 years old just got out of the nick, goes buys more guns and goes on a hunt of the people who punished him. Kills more people.....
So instead of stopping the killing you have just increased it.
What can you do to stop this man and many others???
BTW Disabled people are not victims ::)
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 06, 2008, 10:11:52 PM ---
--- Quote ---Solution to criminals? Stop giving them plea bargains and allowing them back onto the streets, keep them locked up or execute them. We are too soft on criminals.
--- End quote ---
So you would increase the laws on punishment like Nazi Germany did?
Is that your only solution?
OK you tighten punishments, the 18 year old kid now is 40 years old just got out of the nick, goes buys more guns and goes on a hunt of the people who punished him. Kills more people.....
So instead of stopping the killing you have just increased it.
What can you do to stop this man and many others???
BTW Disabled people are not victims ::)
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I'm saying we are too lenient on punishment for criminals, we put rapists in prison and then they get released a few years later on a plea bargain and get to live in society again registered as a sex offender. Once a rapist, always a rapist. Best to execute them or keep them locked up.
Same with people who commit gun crimes, they get out on a plea bargain, the gun is blamed and apparently the individual is just "misguided", they get maybe a year or two in prison and free education through our prison system from tax payer dollars and then they are back to a life of crime because they realize no one will hire a convicted felon and end up hating the world even more after being in prison.
illegal immigration, another issue. Our borders are wide open, how many gang members do you think come into this country? MS13 and others, obviously gangs need to protect their interests (drugs), why are these people released back into society? Execute them or keep them locked up.
Poverty, most of the crime ridden areas are poor blacks living in the city, why should we blame the guns? Lets call a spade a spade and admit there is a huge problem in this country with black on black crime.
Yes we have our white criminals that occasionally go on a shooting spree, allow people to be armed and they will be able to legally defend themselves. Gun free zones are victim disarmament zones. Look at the recent church shootings in Colorado, a lady with a concealment permit was able to kill the gunman before he was able to do anymore damage.
There have been many cases on college campuses where students who were armed were able to stop shooting like the Appalachian school of law. Virginia Tech had a policy against students being able to have guns so people were killed.
Again, we obviously didn't have near the murder rates previous to 1968 that we do now yet are gun laws are even more strict. Maybe it's because decent law abiding citizens can't arm themselves. Funny how some of the most violent areas in this country are regions of the US with the most strict gun laws like California or Washington DC, Chicago. Chicagos murder rate is so high that they've started to rule murders as "accidents" so it doesn't hurt tourism.
Bob_M:
--- Quote ---the 18 year old kid now is 40 years old just got out of the nick, goes buys more guns and goes on a hunt of the people who punished him. Kills more people.....
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How do you know that 40 year old will do that? Maybe he learned his lesson. With age (sometimes) comes wisdom.
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Bob_M on January 06, 2008, 10:25:59 PM ---
--- Quote ---the 18 year old kid now is 40 years old just got out of the nick, goes buys more guns and goes on a hunt of the people who punished him. Kills more people.....
--- End quote ---
How do you know that 40 year old will do that? Maybe he learned his lesson. With age (sometimes) comes wisdom.
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Gday Bob very easy, 22 years in a prison system they do not mellow.
Bob_M:
Gday :)
--- Quote ---Gday Bob very easy, 22 years in a prison system they do not mellow.
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I would think that most will, after many years in prison, I'm sure they would not want to go back or waste any more time on an event that was so Juvenal to begin with. Try being more optimistic and not so pessimistic, trust me, It's good for the soul. :)
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