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Should Jews Participate In Senior Proms?
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
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--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 05:51:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nic Brookes on January 29, 2008, 05:45:41 PM ---
--- Quote ---Should senior "proms" be banned for Jews?
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In a word, no. There is no obligation for Jews at these proms to dance or dress immodestly, what is the problem with Jews attending social events and having a good time?
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You are not Jewish. Who gave you the authority to decide Jewish Law?
There is nothing wrong with attending social events. The problem is that men and women dancing together is immodest, period. Men aren't even supposed to see women dancing among women because it is immodest to see the form of a woman dancing. That is why the mechitza at a Jewish wedding is not made so you can see through it but the mechitza in a synagogue is made with wholes where the women can look across and see the men praying. The second is fine as long as the men don't stare at the women through the wholes. It's just meant to keep a separation between the genders.
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This is my Gentile point of view, your question by using the word "Should" is implying that you are inviting all points of view, and this is mine. I simply can't believe that dancing is immodest! Is going to watch the ballet forbidden? Social events are, by definition, social, and I would say that it is morally wrong for Jews to be forbidden from mixing with Gentiles on account of this. However, this is coming from my position as a Gentile (as I cannot see why this is immodest) and I respect your views, even though I would disagree with them.
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Ballet should be forbidden its boring as watching paint dry. :(
But I agree with your point the dance is social, and 95% of the time you are chatting with friends anyway.
Joe Gutfeld:
I have been accoused of making "silly" topics on the forum. Yakov, YOU MAKE SILLY TOPICS like these.
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 06:22:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nic Brookes on January 29, 2008, 05:58:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 05:51:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nic Brookes on January 29, 2008, 05:45:41 PM ---
--- Quote ---Should senior "proms" be banned for Jews?
--- End quote ---
In a word, no. There is no obligation for Jews at these proms to dance or dress immodestly, what is the problem with Jews attending social events and having a good time?
--- End quote ---
You are not Jewish. Who gave you the authority to decide Jewish Law?
There is nothing wrong with attending social events. The problem is that men and women dancing together is immodest, period. Men aren't even supposed to see women dancing among women because it is immodest to see the form of a woman dancing. That is why the mechitza at a Jewish wedding is not made so you can see through it but the mechitza in a synagogue is made with wholes where the women can look across and see the men praying. The second is fine as long as the men don't stare at the women through the wholes. It's just meant to keep a separation between the genders.
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This is my Gentile point of view, your question by using the word "Should" is implying that you are inviting all points of view, and this is mine. I simply can't believe that dancing is immodest! Is going to watch the ballet forbidden? Social events are, by definition, social, and I would say that it is morally wrong for Jews to be forbidden from mixing with Gentiles on account of this. However, this is coming from my position as a Gentile (as I cannot see why this is immodest) and I respect your views, even though I would disagree with them.
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Jews who marry Gentiles have no place in The World To Come. Jews who do that are traitors. You are NOT going to come in here and say that Jewish beliefs are morally wrong. You are being like FTF and his attack on The Talmud.
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Marriage ? where did you read that? I have missed something, I am sure he is only talking about a school dance.
dejavu:
god help you if you saw what my date wore to Sr. Prom... all i can say is less than a yard of fabric... ;D
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 06:29:14 PM ---He said it is morally wrong to forbid Jews and Gentiles from mixing. If the mixing he is talking about is inter-religious gender mixing, Judaism and JTF are completely against this. It is okay to be friends with Gentiles but doing anything that is immodest for men and women to do together and on top of that to do it with a Gentile is absolutely forbidden.
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I did not take Mixing as "mixing" more of being social together as friends.
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