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Should Jews Participate In Senior Proms?
Just Erica:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 06:22:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nic Brookes on January 29, 2008, 05:58:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 05:51:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nic Brookes on January 29, 2008, 05:45:41 PM ---
--- Quote ---Should senior "proms" be banned for Jews?
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In a word, no. There is no obligation for Jews at these proms to dance or dress immodestly, what is the problem with Jews attending social events and having a good time?
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You are not Jewish. Who gave you the authority to decide Jewish Law?
There is nothing wrong with attending social events. The problem is that men and women dancing together is immodest, period. Men aren't even supposed to see women dancing among women because it is immodest to see the form of a woman dancing. That is why the mechitza at a Jewish wedding is not made so you can see through it but the mechitza in a synagogue is made with wholes where the women can look across and see the men praying. The second is fine as long as the men don't stare at the women through the wholes. It's just meant to keep a separation between the genders.
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This is my Gentile point of view, your question by using the word "Should" is implying that you are inviting all points of view, and this is mine. I simply can't believe that dancing is immodest! Is going to watch the ballet forbidden? Social events are, by definition, social, and I would say that it is morally wrong for Jews to be forbidden from mixing with Gentiles on account of this. However, this is coming from my position as a Gentile (as I cannot see why this is immodest) and I respect your views, even though I would disagree with them.
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Jews who marry Gentiles have no place in The World To Come. Jews who do that are traitors. You are NOT going to come in here and say that Jewish beliefs are morally wrong. You are being like FTF and his attack on The Talmud.
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Getting a little ahead of yourself, aren't you Yacov? No one said that Jewish beliefs are morally wrong or wrong in any sense. I respect Jewish law...I just find it really annoying that someone would want to ban a social gathering because of fear of someone having fun, God forbid. If it's not your cup of tea, don't go to any of these gatherings. Don't dance with a female. Don't LOOK at a female. Just don't tell others how to run their lives.
JTFFan:
If many things aren't permitted in the prom it's fine, in other words "righteous prom"
Most proms are immoral and can be vulgar, depending on the school and what not
Just Erica:
--- Quote from: JTFFan on January 29, 2008, 06:38:31 PM ---If many things aren't permitted in the prom it's fine, in other words "righteous prom"
Most proms are immoral and can be vulgar, depending on the school and what not
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I don't think we're talking Jewish prom here. I think that dancing is innocent, dressing up and feeling like royalty for an evening is innocent , and even interdancing. I respect your culture and your religion but I admit, I'd have a hard time giving up things from the culture I'm in if I were to convert to Judaism. I LOVE dancing with my husband and in a group of men and women. I LOVE wearing clothes that are feminine but don't show anything off..but I love having the freedom to choose a lot better. I also love PDA (Public Displays of Affection). (I'm not talking about sex on the beach or anything but people who wouldn't mind someone else seeing how in love and dedicated to their spouse or significant other they are. )
I'm glad we're all different. Otherwise conversations like these would not only be one-dimensional but not much fun at all.
Dominater96:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 28, 2008, 06:02:25 PM ---I don't think male-female interdancing is prohibited for Gentiles so this question is strictly for Jews.
I think they should be banned and I'm very grateful I never went to the one my high school had. I was never into that nonsense even when I did believe in male-female interdancing. I knew I'm Jewish and that "proms" are not a Jewish thing.
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Why do u keep wanting to ban things? Serriously grow up. It looks like u want to infringe on alot of our civil liberties, and be "big brother"
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 06:37:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 29, 2008, 06:31:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 06:29:14 PM ---He said it is morally wrong to forbid Jews and Gentiles from mixing. If the mixing he is talking about is inter-religious gender mixing, Judaism and JTF are completely against this. It is okay to be friends with Gentiles but doing anything that is immodest for men and women to do together and on top of that to do it with a Gentile is absolutely forbidden.
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I did not take Mixing as "mixing" more of being social together as friends.
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Then it should not involve dancing.
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Did I say it did, you can still enjoy peoples company without dancing.
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