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Leftist secular Argentinian Govt. bills of Law
« on: February 02, 2008, 11:24:36 PM »
A project has been presented to the Argentine Parliament by members of the ruling party. According to it, if approved, babies shall be only named by the mother's surname or by the mother's two surnames. In any case the first surname shall be the mother's and not the father's.
Fisrt it's contrary to the tradition of the Torah, since Hallacha states the child of the of a Jewish marriage is jewish bt the mother, but belongs to the tribe and family of the father. Likewise a Gentile child, is Gentile by the mother, but belongs to the nation and family of the gentile father.
Second, I assume that this absurd change is deliberately intended to promote immorality by decreasing attention towards fatherlles children, thus enticing the youth not to marry, not to even care who the father of the child is.....
Certainly an annoying leftist immoral project..... would Jtf support me against this plan?
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2008, 11:32:07 PM »
I don't think the intention is anti-religious. I think it's more of a radical, feminazi, anti-male/anti-tradition proposal.

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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2008, 11:34:27 PM »
In Sweden they have laws where you can only pick a first name from a list of names so they don't allow Hebrew names or translations of Hebrew names (Maybe some translations of Biblical names would be on the list though.). And Scandivania bans shechita and some ugly gay women MPs wanted to ban brit milah.



Thank you for sticking the thread, and of course, I am really concerned about Sacandinavia banning Shechita, Does it mean that Jews are forced to eat taref? Do you know what is their argument to ban Kosher? Anyway really horrible. Imach Shemam Vezikram to those who forbid Shechitah. May Hashem's wrath fall upon them all!!!!!!!!

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Re: Leftist secular Argentinian Govt. bills of Law
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2008, 11:36:39 PM »
In Sweden they have laws where you can only pick a first name from a list of names so they don't allow Hebrew names or translations of Hebrew names (Maybe some translations of Biblical names would be on the list though.).

Where did you get this from? This was maybe the case 50 years ago I think.
Biblical names (as written in the Christian Bible ) are very wide spread in europe.

And Scandivania bans shechita and some ugly gay women MPs wanted to ban brit milah.

shechita : is against the law of some European countries.

brit milah: is not performed by any Christians I know of, except for medical reasons.
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Re: Leftist secular Argentinian Govt. bills of Law
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2008, 11:42:24 PM »
I don't think the intention is anti-religious. I think it's more of a radical, feminazi, anti-male/anti-tradition proposal.

You are right, the intention is anti-male, but the result would also be anti-religious!!!And of course pro-immorality. That's what happens when Feminist women rule. It really annoys me. I'm pro-patriarchal family structure.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2008, 11:57:04 PM »
Jews should get out of Sweden and leave the Swedes to their Volvos and sex change operations.

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008, 12:12:57 AM »
In Sweden they have laws where you can only pick a first name from a list of names so they don't allow Hebrew names or translations of Hebrew names (Maybe some translations of Biblical names would be on the list though.). And Scandivania bans shechita and some ugly gay women MPs wanted to ban brit milah.



Thank you for sticking the thread, and of course, I am really concerned about Sacandinavia banning Shechita, Does it mean that Jews are forced to eat taref? Do you know what is their argument to ban Kosher? Anyway really horrible. Imach Shemam Vezikram to those who forbid Shechitah. May Hashem's wrath fall upon them all!!!!!!!!


Denmark allows shechita so the rest of Scandinavia imports kosher meat from Denmark.


So it is possible to obtain kosher meat in all of Scandinavia.
The reason why European countries ban Ritual slaughtering, is that all animals must be slaughtered in centralised abatoirs,
for reasons of hygiene, nobody is allowed to slaughter at his house, or farm.

All animals must be made unconscious, prior to killing.

Some exceptions are made for muslims and Jews.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2008, 12:24:14 AM »
In Sweden they have laws where you can only pick a first name from a list of names so they don't allow Hebrew names or translations of Hebrew names (Maybe some translations of Biblical names would be on the list though.). And Scandivania bans shechita and some ugly gay women MPs wanted to ban brit milah.



Thank you for sticking the thread, and of course, I am really concerned about Sacandinavia banning Shechita, Does it mean that Jews are forced to eat taref? Do you know what is their argument to ban Kosher? Anyway really horrible. Imach Shemam Vezikram to those who forbid Shechitah. May Hashem's wrath fall upon them all!!!!!!!!


Denmark allows shechita so the rest of Scandinavia imports kosher meat from Denmark.


So it is possible to obtain kosher meat in all of Scandinavia.
The reason why European countries ban Ritual slaughtering, is that all animals must be slaughtered in centralised abatoirs,
for reasons of hygiene, nobody is allowed to slaughter at his house, or farm.

All animals must be made unconscious, prior to killing.

Some exceptions are made for muslims and Jews.


Then that is Anti-Semitism. The animals are unconscious instantly under Jewish slaughter. Nothing un-natural can be given to it in order to kill it. It has to be with a sharp knife which cuts a part of the neck which causes instant death. The animal is not beheaded. The head is later removed.


There are exceptions to this laws. At least in Denmark , you said.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2008, 12:28:17 AM »
Jews should get out of Sweden and leave the Swedes to their Volvos and sex change operations.
In Israel there are also gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists. As in every Western Country, except maybe some of the ex-Soviet satelite states.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2008, 12:36:45 AM »
Jews should get out of Sweden and leave the Swedes to their Volvos and sex change operations.
In Israel there are also gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists. As in every Western Country, except maybe some of the ex-Soviet satelite states.
Yes, but these things are not readily associated with Israel, USA/Canada or Australia/New Zealand. They ARE readily associated with Sweden.

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 12:41:49 AM »
Jews should get out of Sweden and leave the Swedes to their Volvos and sex change operations.
In Israel there are also gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists. As in every Western Country, except maybe some of the ex-Soviet satelite states.
Yes, but these things are not readily associated with Israel, USA/Canada or Australia/New Zealand. They ARE readily associated with Sweden.
Could be. That law concerning the names-list, is quite old-fashioned. It was in Belgium 60 years ago.
I doubt if that's the case in Sweden today.

Also in sweden, the people were extremely poor 100 years ago.
Today it is a rich country, with a lot of socialist laws.

I don't see what is special to Sweden, in comparison to other EU-countries, except for some more outspoken feminism, and a more outspoken suicidal trend towards ethnical auto-destruction.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2008, 12:44:05 AM »
Jews should get out of Sweden and leave the Swedes to their Volvos and sex change operations.
In Israel there are also gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists. As in every Western Country, except maybe some of the ex-Soviet satelite states.
Yes, but these things are not readily associated with Israel, USA/Canada or Australia/New Zealand. They ARE readily associated with Sweden.
gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists more associated with Sweden?

I doubt it.
These things are now in every Western nation.

Whatever. There will be an ethnical/religious civil war in a couple of years, and the liberals and die hard feminists will all be killed by the muzzies anyway O0 O0 O0
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2008, 12:45:25 AM »
After that we kill all the muzzies, and Europe, Israel, the western World, will be good to live again.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2008, 12:47:27 AM »
Jews should get out of Sweden and leave the Swedes to their Volvos and sex change operations.
In Israel there are also gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists. As in every Western Country, except maybe some of the ex-Soviet satelite states.
Yes, but these things are not readily associated with Israel, USA/Canada or Australia/New Zealand. They ARE readily associated with Sweden.
gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists more associated with Sweden?

I doubt it.
These things are now in every Western nation.

Whatever. There will be an ethnical/religious civil war in a couple of years, and the liberals and die hard feminists will all be killed by the muzzies anyway O0 O0 O0

I'd pay big quids to see european feminists and leftists being dragged off by the muSSlims for pack-raping and beheading while they cry......."but we supported multiculturalism!".

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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2008, 12:48:49 AM »
Jews should get out of Sweden and leave the Swedes to their Volvos and sex change operations.
In Israel there are also gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists. As in every Western Country, except maybe some of the ex-Soviet satelite states.
Yes, but these things are not readily associated with Israel, USA/Canada or Australia/New Zealand. They ARE readily associated with Sweden.
gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists more associated with Sweden?

I doubt it.
These things are now in every Western nation.

Whatever. There will be an ethnical/religious civil war in a couple of years, and the liberals and die hard feminists will all be killed by the muzzies anyway O0 O0 O0

I'd pay big quids to see european feminists and leftists being dragged off by the muSSlims for pack-raping and beheading while they cry......."but we supported multiculturalism!".
Save your $$. You'll get it for free.

I will kill both of them: muzz and coll-abos
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2008, 01:19:55 AM »
shechita : is against the law of some European countries.

That doesn't make it right. They must be Nazis and believe the propaganda that it is cruel to animals while it is really the contrary. It is done to prevent cruelty to the animals and the slaughter results in instant painless death.

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brit milah: is not performed by any Christians I know of, except for medical reasons.


I meant they want to ban it for Jews. Brit milah is only for Jews. For Gentiles, it would just be milah (circumcision). Brit milah is ritual circumcision in Judaism.


The laws are what they are, and all citizens have to obey them.
Circumcision is not banned here.
Kosher food, is not banned here.
Synagogues are not banned here.

But frankly: shouldn't Jews leave the Gentile world, and live in Israel?

And if all Jews should live in Israel, why bother about the laws/morals non-Israel governments make??

I think towards Jews, exceptions must be made, so that Jews can freely enjoy their religion here.
But that will encourage them only to stay, wich is a bad thing for Israel.
Muslims, on the contrary, must be discriminated in every possible way.

That means that all laws, protecting freedom of religion must be banned, or
at least, the religion of Peace, must be forbidden, to practise inside the Western World.

The goal of JTF, and Zionism, is to get all Jews to Israel, and to be a majority there.

Why always complaining about the "nazis" if you stay outide of Israel?

History has proven for 2000 years, and more ,  that minorities get killed/discriminated/hunted/slaughtered, and so on.

The only people that ever withstood these acts of hosility , are the Jews.

Isn't it obvious, the world will always be hostile towards Jews?

Realising that, what did Herzl or Zionists concluded?

The only solution is the create a Jewish State, big enough for all Jews, and -in my opinion optimally- to make it a Jewish theocratic regime, that ensures the religious foundation, rather than the "universal rights of men" and other communist BS.

The reality nowdays, however, is that all Western countries allow freedom of religion, speech, trade,...
And that in all Wesstern countries, religion is declining.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2008, 01:50:36 AM »
I am told (I can't be 100% sure, though) that germany has a law prohibiting parents giving their kids stupid, unconventional names like ....Sky, Moonbeam, Seven, Peace or other hippy stupidity.

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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2008, 08:50:17 AM »
Jews should get out of Sweden and leave the Swedes to their Volvos and sex change operations.
In Israel there are also gays/trans-sexuals/prostitutes/atheists. As in every Western Country, except maybe some of the ex-Soviet satelite states.
Yes, but these things are not readily associated with Israel, USA/Canada or Australia/New Zealand. They ARE readily associated with Sweden.
Could be. That law concerning the names-list, is quite old-fashioned. It was in Belgium 60 years ago.
I doubt if that's the case in Sweden today.

Also in sweden, the people were extremely poor 100 years ago.
Today it is a rich country, with a lot of socialist laws.

I don't see what is special to Sweden, in comparison to other EU-countries, except for some more outspoken feminism, and a more outspoken suicidal trend towards ethnical auto-destruction.


I thought the name laws were part of Socialism. Perhaps I have Sweden mixed up with Norway regarding the name laws.


I think that a law that forbids stupid names, is  good law.
I consider a lot of nowdays names given over here as crazy.

A law that forbids any Arab, Koranic names, would be most welcome.

I don't need Muhammeds, or Abdullahs.
They should be expelled whatsover.
Biblical names are OK, of course.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.