Author Topic: Gates Blasts Israel for Nuclear Proliferation (Read 4885 times)

androbot2084 · « **on:** December 08, 2006, 01:49:58 AM »

Now secretary of Defense Gates is blaming Israel for Iran's nuclear ambitions. He says Iran must feel very threatened because Pakistan from the east Russia from the north and Israel from the west all posess nuclear weapons. Gates stopped short from giving the Muslim rant about the Zionist nuclear aggressors however Gates made it very clear that Israel is a perceived threat to Iran's security. First of all if Israel posesses nuclear weapons they are not a threat to Iran's security as long as Iran does not attack Israel. These weapons are for defensive purposes only. Second if Israel were to give up its nuclear weapons it would be suicide because Israel could easily be overun by a horde of Arab nations. The fact remains that once Iran gives up its ambitions to annihilate Israel its leaders can then sleep like babies.

cjd · « **Reply #1 on:** December 08, 2006, 07:53:03 AM »

Quote from: androbot2084 on December 08, 2006, 01:49:58 AM

Now secretary of Defense Gates is blaming Israel for Iran's nuclear ambitions. He says Iran must feel very threatened because Pakistan from the east Russia from the north and Israel from the west all posess nuclear weapons. Gates stopped short from giving the Muslim rant about the Zionist nuclear aggressors however Gates made it very clear that Israel is a perceived threat to Iran's security. First of all if Israel posesses nuclear weapons they are not a threat to Iran's security as long as Iran does not attack Israel. These weapons are for defensive purposes only. Second if Israel were to give up its nuclear weapons it would be suicide because Israel could easily be overun by a horde of Arab nations. The fact remains that once Iran gives up its ambitions to annihilate Israel its leaders can then sleep like babies.

What can you expect from an appointee that was completely acceptable to the Democraps. This is nothing yet wait till after the start of the year when the Democraps really get going. Rumsfeld was a good secretary of defense who had his hands tied from the start by liberals and his own party. Now Bolton has also resigned his ambitions at the UN and we will get another dead fish in that post. Israel is really going to have to put its foot down in the next few months or really face a grim future. As bad as Bush was he had kicked the so called Palestinian State issue on to the back burner the past few years. Now that he is a lame duck and the Democrap congress sets the tone in Washington lets see what happens.

TheCoon · « **Reply #2 on:** December 11, 2006, 08:28:53 AM »

Now the republicans are becoming just as nazi as the democrats.

MarZutra · « **Reply #3 on:** December 11, 2006, 08:43:10 AM »

Quote from: thunderbolt on December 11, 2006, 08:28:53 AM

Now the republicans are becoming just as nazi as the democrats.

Repubs, Democrats whatever. They are the same party pure and simple. Liberals vs. Socialists with most of their members, advisors and "professionals" coming from the exact same place: The Council on Foreign Relations. It is all one big [censored] sham. Ladies and Gentleman what we are witnessing today is another selling out similar to Yalta. Israel has no balls and the World knows it. Israel appeased their antiSemites world wide since their founding, the list is far too long to deal with. When you see "Democratic" "Free" nations "talking" to Communist/Socialist/Islamist dictators something is wrong. After all, Bush wanted to "build a democracy" in Afganistan and Iraq but cannot get one 20 miles off the coast of Florida? It is all one big sham.

Carrol Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor, wrote in his massive work "Tragedy and Hope" called the two party system a fraud and that there must be two parties with the same political ideologies so when they vote in a new government the policies don't change...

Enjoy: AMERICA'S TWO-PARTY SYSTEM IS A HOAX http://www.newswithviews.com/Ohara/debbie29.htm

MassuhDGoodName · « **Reply #4 on:** December 18, 2006, 12:20:47 AM »

Marzutra writes: "...something is wrong. After all, Bush wanted to "build a democracy" in Afganistan and Iraq but cannot get one 20 miles off the coast of Florida? It is all one big sham..."

A sham it most certainly is; and an evil one at that. A farce called "The War On Terror", when in fact it is a "WAR OF TERROR" against the citizenry of America and the free world.

The Founding Fathers of America feared "democracy" as much or more than they feared monarchy, because they knew that the "rule of the majority" meant only "MOB RULE".

Only a democratically elected REPUBLIC UNDER CONSTITUTIONAL LAW could guarantee our G-d given Freedoms and Rights.

As the most uneducated, stupid, and mentally imbalanced class of voluntary puppets dance to the strings being pulled by the elite Corporatcrats who actually control our government, and constantly mouth the obscene word "democracy" as a substitute for what has been legally established as our government, we daily see the devolution and corruption of the great country once known as The United States Of America.

"Mob Rule" is indeed the order of the day. Every degenerate group backed by the Marxist internationalists/globalists is organized to extort so-called "rights" from the majority of law abiding citizens. Rather than uphold their Oath Of Office, the whores of the American governing class jump at the chance to "back" any and every "minority group" in an attempt to retain and gain votes so as to maintain their corrupt personal power. Their betrayal of America continues unabated as they quite literally sell their souls to the highest Internationalist Corporate CEO. It's no secret that most of the recent legislation rammed down our throats by the "Conservative Republican" Legislative Branch wasn't even read by our lawmakers prior to their voting en masse for their passings. They are simply handed the legislative bills already pre-composed for them by Corporate Lobbyist Lawyers, and then ordered to vote for their approval.
Thus is revealed a new evil "Aristocracy" and "Phantom Government" in control of America. "Ballots Not Bullets" has been relegated to the category of "a sick joke"...electronic balloting leaves no paper trail, the software programs coded into them are devised & owned by huge Corporate contributors to the governing class, and kept secret from the American public.
We, the American public, choose "the lesser of two evils", vote, and then watch as daily the latest group of sexual deviants or racial Hottentots overrun our country and destroy everything we've built and fought for; all with the approval of our Corporate Aristocrat Masters. Only their contempt for the American citizen is on a par with their everyday sell-out of Freedom.

MassuhDGoodName · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2006, 01:27:35 AM »

Yeah! Marzutra,

The Committee of 300....like a Globalist version of the Politburo.

MarZutra · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2006, 08:34:38 AM »

Yes, that is it. 100%. A Global politbureau. I was very impressed with his speech I had to order his 1997 fourth edition to his book. Now I'm not a conspircy nut but I do believe that there is far more to it than meets the eye. After all, it is known that the media is a closed group and linked with the governments and too the wealthy... Starts to make sence when there are no "Amber" alerts or anthrax scares.....especially close to elections time

One big sham... He's got another book called "One World Government" that too looks very interesting...

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2007, 03:35:25 AM »

Gates is a disgusting One World pig whose entire fortune came from ripping and off and destroying more talented but less powerful competitors. I hope he gets an Iranian nuke straight up his rear. But I bet he'd like that.

MarZutra · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2007, 04:40:34 PM »

I agree with you Massuah 110%. It is truly sad. The fact that the ignorant "Conservatives", and propagated Liberals continue to profess: When we conqured Communism with the fall of the Berlin Wall, I tend to agree with Anatoly Golitsyn's version in "New Lies for Old", that America released Communism on the "Free World". Communism is still here China, Cuba, North Korea the mass of Black and Arab/Moslem Dictatorships and even Russia becomming more of a closed society. It may not be termed "Communism" any more but moresoe as identified by Lenin: "International Socialism": Globalism. The fact that there are far more Socialist countries today than before November 9, 1989's fall of the Berlin Wall is a fact.

The EU has done through subversion, propaganda, secrecy and undemocratic "voting" what Hitler, Napolian and other tried to do through conquest.

It is all one big SHAM. Oh, one note. I watched the lecture by Dr. John Coleman on GoogleVideo and was impressed so I purchased his book "The Committee of 300". The book is actually quite terrible. He seems to have misquoted Walther Ratheneau and built an entire "thesis" around it. It is interesting but not worth the mone nor the time really. His lecture was fantastic but hints to a shade of mental instability.

fjack · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2007, 12:42:30 PM »

It is hard to believe that these idiots think that if they condemn Israel that the whole arab turd world will all of a sudden be our 'friends' and all will be peachie keen. These people are living on 'fantasy island'. If I were a leader in Israel and recieved that memo from gates I would have ripped in up and thrown it away. As far as I am concerned we, in the US are being ruled by the 'polit bureau', they do not listen to us, nor do they care about us. I would like to find out how much 'big oil' is greasing these people. Something has to be going on, someone is getting paid to sell us right down the tubes.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #10 on:** January 25, 2007, 07:08:12 PM »

Yeah, you are right. The sheiks own gigantic shares in the global media.

Angry Panther · « **Reply #11 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:36:43 PM »

You shouldn't use nukes for defensive purposes, YOU SHOULD USE THEM FOR OFFENSIVE PURPOSES! What's the point in having nukes if you don't use them? Israel should nuke all Muslim Nazi countries at least once a month, I know the jtf has this big plan for paying these so called Palestinians to leave Israel, why do that? I think it would be easier to just nuke them. We should do the same with Iran. As far as this Gates clown is concerned, he is nothing more than a civil servant.

ftfl · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2007, 06:51:45 AM »

Start firing off nukes and not only do a lot of innocent people die along with those who may be guilty, but everyone around the world suffers from the nuclear fall out. If you fire off nukes each week you could very quickly turn the entire world into an unihabitable toxic waste ground.

MarZutra · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2007, 08:12:21 AM »

The sad fact seems to be that it will either be Iran or Israel. I actually do not care if Iran gets what they are asking, nor do I care about their "innocent" Moslem people, nor do I care about all those who will be anti-Israel/antSemitic opinions, but what I do care about is what of Irans "partners": Russia, North Korea, China, Cuba ect. will do? If it comes down to a final choice between Israel and this whole deprave world being brought down, I'll put my faith in HaShem, support the Jews and the Land of Israel, sit down on the front lawn in my sunchair with a glass of wine, my Torah and wait for a tan...

cjd · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2007, 09:10:22 AM »

Quote from: Marzutra on February 03, 2007, 08:12:21 AM

The sad fact seems to be that it will either be Iran or Israel. I actually do not care if Iran gets what they are asking, nor do I care about their "innocent" Moslem people, nor do I care about all those who will be anti-Israel/antSemitic opinions, but what I do care about is what of Irans "partners": Russia, North Korea, China, Cuba ect. will do? If it comes down to a final choice between Israel and this whole deprave world being brought down, I'll put my faith in HaShem, support the Jews and the Land of Israel, sit down on the front lawn in my sunchair with a glass of wine, my Torah and wait for a tan...

I could not agree with you more on this Marzutra. At the first sign of aggression Iran should put down as you would any rabid animal. The innocent will have to suffer with the guilty. It is really to bad that more than likely Iran will have to attempt something deadly before any country that has the ability to stop them acts however thats just the way it seems to be shaping up.

MarZutra · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2007, 11:41:55 PM »

I agree with you cjd. My friend this evening and I were speaking about this situation and he told me: "If I were in power in Israel, Iran would have been made the first, and G-d willing last, example to the World to leave us alone. I agree with him. When it comes to Israel, Jews or any other I agree with my friend. We, of all nations on this Earth have practiced "tolerance" more than any other and have been the brunt of pogroms, massacres, rapes, crusades, inquisitions, Auschwitzes etc. for what? Israel must stand on its own two feet and deal with the problems not "tolerate" the problems. What is going on now is directly comparable, in my mind anyway, with America's failure to eliminate Communism with the Korean War instead of making the mistake of "containing" Communism. I figure if one looks on the map today there are most certainly far more Communist/Socialist dictatorships/oligarchies on Earth after Regan "defeated Communism" than before. As far as I'm concerned Anatoly Golitsyn was emphatically correct in both his books. Even sadder is that the Communists and their Socialist cohorts are financed by the Globalists American/Western Elitists... Communism/International Socialism should have been eliminated as should Islam today. These are my opinions and I'm sorry if there are any on JTF who disagree...

MassuhDGoodName · « **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2007, 09:00:46 AM »

Cosmokramer writes: "...pulled in to a stall and saw Bill Gates two cars next to us eating at least 3 cheeseburgers and a large bag of fries with some type of large beverage. And this guy is a skinny little runt..."

You see, cosmo, Gates only eats that large bag of cheeseburgers in order to feed his tapeworm.

Then, he scarfs down a large Mello Yello & greasy french fries which are HIS dinner.

He even saves the greasy french frie wrapper for Melinda to use for her "wet wipes", so he won't have to spend any money on toilet paper.

MarZutra · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2007, 09:19:33 AM »

Good one Massah. I personally do not know much about Bill Gates other than he is one of the World's wealthiest people if not the wealthiest. (somehow I feel that Gates is eclipsed by the Morgans, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Warbergs etc.) In any event, I only know about what he did with the meeting with Arial Sharon and the Gaza expulsion. From a business perspective that was a horrible investment. I think Gates was more a product of luck (right place, right time, right product and right financial backers...even though he wasn't poor to start) rather than business skill. I guess that is similar to Hugh Hefner in that, as the story goes, invested his last dime on nude photos of Marlyn Monroe and marketed the hell out of it... I think all these people are warped emotionally in that they could be doing such good with their money. Paul Johnson wrote an article about the Middle East and Oil stating that if all of the Arabian Oil kingdoms with Israel's brains used their money and technology to build schools, roads, infrastructure and not Islamic and politicially driven Marxist hate the Middle East would be one of the wealthiest and productive areas on the planet.

In any event, Gates and his like ilk can go straight to Hell!

Maccabi · « **Reply #18 on:** February 04, 2007, 05:00:24 PM »

I don't think they are talking about Bill Gates...rather

Robert M Gates

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/08/AR2006110801589.html

but the people who write stories only use his last name which is very confusing.

MarZutra · « **Reply #19 on:** February 04, 2007, 05:58:58 PM »

You are right...lol I noticed that but I felt since it switched I thought I'd comment on Bill's horrible business venture in Aza...lol

MassuhDGoodName · « **Reply #20 on:** February 04, 2007, 06:53:10 PM »

Well...if that wasnt Bill Gates at the "Grease'N'Chew drive-thru window....

then, maybe it was Robert?

Now I'm really confused!...

Who was that black woman driving the Lincoln, then?

Melinda???

RationalThought110 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2007, 09:44:46 PM »

Quote from: Chaimfan on January 19, 2007, 03:35:25 AM

Gates is a disgusting One World pig whose entire fortune came from ripping and off and destroying more talented but less powerful competitors. I hope he gets an Iranian nuke straight up his rear. But I bet he'd like that.

I think you confused Robert Gates with Bill Gates.

Robert Gates is the same guy who insulted Israel's intelligence. He was the director of the CIA under Bush Sr. He was also part of the Iran-Contra affair.

Texas A&M liked having him as their president so Bush Jr. should have let him stay there.

fjack · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2007, 07:15:09 AM »

I am no psycologist here, but the only thing that would make any sense here is that the USA sees itself going down the tubes and wants to take Israel with it. This is nuts. Israel is doing enough to destroy herself, she doesn't need any help from gates. What Israel and the USA should do is to rid themselves of all invaders and all their offspring, Give them all a one way trip metro card and let them take whatever belongings they can carry on their goats by Sundowm or else. The mexicans of course can use their donkeys, not to be confused with democrats, well maybe they can take them to.. Israel and the USA should make a buffer zone, a no man's land, in which any thing that moves will be shot and killed. Israel should tell Iran, any monkey business, historians will argue 10 years from now whether Iran ever existed at all. Round up all the palestians and ship them to dafur or what ever hell hole Israel deems fit. It goes for the USA, when we deport these invaders and their US born brats, air drop them in the congo so they can't come back again. This is a start. It would be a good start, but alas I am only dreaming.

Author Topic: Gates Blasts Israel for Nuclear Proliferation (Read 4885 times)

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