RABIAH HUTCHINSON, the Mudgee-born grandmother accused of being the "grand dame" of extremist jihadis in Australia, says she has limited sympathy for the victims of the Bali bombings because those holidaying on the Indonesian island engaged in pedophilia and drug taking.
And her close friend, Raisah bint Alan Douglas, another Australian convert to radical Islam who also married a suspected terrorist supporter, has praised Osama bin Laden, saying he followed a "correct" version of Islam.
The women are featured in a documentary to be aired on ABC television tonight, Jihad Sheilas.
Ms Hutchinson is a former hippie who converted to Islam in Indonesia in 1973. Ms Douglas also hails from country NSW, Dubbo, and has been married five times to Muslim men, including her current husband Omar Abdi Mohamed, a suspected terrorist financier who was deported from the US.
Ms Hutchinson was schooled by the leaders of Jemaah Islamiah, Abdullar Sungkar and Abu Bakar Bashir, at one time marrying the head of JI's Australian wing in the 1990s.
"I have the greatest respect for them," she said of the two men, adding she believed Abu Bakar Bashir was not involved in the Bali attacks which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.
"Do I feel for the people who died? Not as much as for those 200 Afghani people that gave me and my children shelter," she said. "Why? Because they were holidaying in someone's country, sometimes engaging in child pornography or pedophilia or drug taking."
The 200 Afghans Ms Hutchinson referred to were villagers who she said were massacred by US-led forces following the September 11, 2001, attacks because they refused to give her up to the authorities.
Ms Hutchinson had taken her six children to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan to experience a pure Islamic state.
While Ms Hutchinson wants to leave the country but cannot, Ms Douglas retains her passport and normally lives in Kenya with her fifth husband.
Ms Douglas spoke openly of her admiration for bin Laden. He followed the "correct" and "undiluted" version of Islam, she said. "It's not a bad thing for Islam, what Osama bin Laden has said. I believe that he has woken a lot of Muslims up to the oppression they were under but didn't realise it."
Both women, according to Ms Hutchinson's solicitor, are furious about the documentary, believing they were misled into taking part.