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Edited Title: Chaim and I agree on this ... as per this weeks Ask JTF.
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: MasterWolf1 on February 10, 2008, 06:13:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on February 10, 2008, 06:07:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: MasterWolf1 on February 10, 2008, 06:03:29 PM ---IF someone was hit by a bus or car and their injuries are no way can be repaired and they are going to be in a stage where they can't really care for themselves at all in anyways possible way. Then why keep them to suffer?
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I think its more the question, does that person want to stay alive?
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I know it becomes a very difficult yet morbid decision. And I mean those that are forever suffering to stay alive. Terminally ill for example that no matter what. For example: If someone has cancer that can never be cured and slowly eating away at them and comes to a point that they have nothing but suffering just to continue to live, I really don't see that as living.
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I don't think its morbid, or differcult in some respects. Its a choice that is made on what is the best likely outcome. I know i sound harsh, but I don't fear death, I am not scared of it.
As for my that choice has been made, I have what they call a living will. legally stating my right to die.
Sarah:
--- Quote from: Skippy on February 10, 2008, 06:25:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: MasterWolf1 on February 10, 2008, 06:13:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on February 10, 2008, 06:07:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: MasterWolf1 on February 10, 2008, 06:03:29 PM ---IF someone was hit by a bus or car and their injuries are no way can be repaired and they are going to be in a stage where they can't really care for themselves at all in anyways possible way. Then why keep them to suffer?
--- End quote ---
I think its more the question, does that person want to stay alive?
--- End quote ---
I know it becomes a very difficult yet morbid decision. And I mean those that are forever suffering to stay alive. Terminally ill for example that no matter what. For example: If someone has cancer that can never be cured and slowly eating away at them and comes to a point that they have nothing but suffering just to continue to live, I really don't see that as living.
--- End quote ---
I don't think its morbid, or differcult in some respects. Its a choice that is made on what is the best likely outcome. I know i sound harsh, but I don't fear death, I am not scared of it.
As for my that choice has been made, I have what they call a living will. legally stating my right to die.
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Yet being accountable for the sins of suicide....if you believe that you have the legal right to choose your time of death.
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: Sarah on February 10, 2008, 06:18:10 PM ---
--- Quote ---he does not send us anything we are not fit to bear.
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So we can live with the suffering then?
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Thats life Sarah of course we can live with suffering, many choose that. As I stated its up to the person themselves, no one has a right to take a life if it is not willing given up to them. There is a huge difference.
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: Sarah on February 10, 2008, 06:27:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on February 10, 2008, 06:25:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: MasterWolf1 on February 10, 2008, 06:13:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on February 10, 2008, 06:07:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: MasterWolf1 on February 10, 2008, 06:03:29 PM ---IF someone was hit by a bus or car and their injuries are no way can be repaired and they are going to be in a stage where they can't really care for themselves at all in anyways possible way. Then why keep them to suffer?
--- End quote ---
I think its more the question, does that person want to stay alive?
--- End quote ---
I know it becomes a very difficult yet morbid decision. And I mean those that are forever suffering to stay alive. Terminally ill for example that no matter what. For example: If someone has cancer that can never be cured and slowly eating away at them and comes to a point that they have nothing but suffering just to continue to live, I really don't see that as living.
--- End quote ---
I don't think its morbid, or differcult in some respects. Its a choice that is made on what is the best likely outcome. I know i sound harsh, but I don't fear death, I am not scared of it.
As for my that choice has been made, I have what they call a living will. legally stating my right to die.
--- End quote ---
Yet being accountable for the sins of suicide....if you believe that you have the legal right to choose your time of death.
--- End quote ---
Everyone has a right to choose to live or die. I have a right to refuse medical treatment and request palliative care, that is my right and my legal right as a citizen of Australia.
Ari:
I used to volunteer and then work in a couple of nursing homes growing up. It can be a true horror show to be forced to live with a terminal illness. I hope I never have to go through something like that, and I agree that life should not be prolonged in these situations when there is no genuine hope! After all, we're going to a better place G-d willing. O0
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