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Lessons In Chabad Hasidic Philosophy (in light of recent misunderstandings)

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Lubab:
JNC do YOU believe that G-d's presence was revealed in the Beit Hamikdash?

If so, how do you differentiate yourself from the idolator who says he's not worhipping the idol, but what the idol represents?

My point here is not to say I agree with the idolator, G-d forbid. My point is to say that subtle changes in the way you understand a statement in the Torah can make huge differences and we need to be careful before assigning labels before we have a complete understanding of what is actually being proposed.

Lubab:
It just occured to me that anyone who thinks this is pantheism simply didn't read what I wrote or didn't understand it.

Pantheism would be the equivalent of Reuven being his arm in the analogy I gave. That is not what we are saying here at all as I already explained.

I can explain and explain, but if someone does not want to understand, they will not understand.

If they can't debate they will defame and there's nothing I can do about that.

judeanoncapta:
Lubab, say what you want, but it is only Chabad that seems to be producing Elokists, no other group is doing this.

Coincidence? I think not.

Raulmarrio2000:
I have read Tania (I don't read it anymore, since my Rav says that once I decided to remain a Goy, I must stop studying any Torah which is not relevant to Noachides), and I agree with the Alter Rebbe.
And you, Judean, why did you consult the Rav in a Chassic Hebrew code, and then translated his answer to English? Just to confuse those who don't understand that code???

judeanoncapta:

--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on February 17, 2008, 07:26:19 PM ---I have read Tania (I don't read it anymore, since my Rav says that once I decided to remain a Goy, I must stop studying any Torah which is not relevant to Noachides), and I agree with the Alter Rebbe.
And you, Judean, why did you consult the Rav in a Chassic Hebrew code, and then translated his answer to English? Just to confuse those who don't understand that code???

--- End quote ---

You are assuming that those words are code, they are not.

I didn't confuse anyone, Lubab is trying to do that in order to justify his idolatry.

I asked him if he beleived his Rabbi was the essence of God clothed in a body and he said yes.

That is not code for something else, that is idolatry according to the Torah, without a question.

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