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Lessons In Chabad Hasidic Philosophy (in light of recent misunderstandings)
Lubab:
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 07:29:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on February 17, 2008, 07:26:19 PM ---I have read Tania (I don't read it anymore, since my Rav says that once I decided to remain a Goy, I must stop studying any Torah which is not relevant to Noachides), and I agree with the Alter Rebbe.
And you, Judean, why did you consult the Rav in a Chassic Hebrew code, and then translated his answer to English? Just to confuse those who don't understand that code???
--- End quote ---
You are assuming that those words are code, they are not.
I didn't confuse anyone, Lubab is trying to do that in order to justify his idolatry.
I asked him if he beleived his Rabbi was the essence of G-d clothed in a body and he said yes.
That is not code for something else, that is idolatry according to the Torah, without a question.
--- End quote ---
Wrong. The words "enclothed" have a very specific meaning to be differentiated with "shored" "indwelling"
You need to understand what we are talking about when we say "Rebbe" in this context and we need to understand a few things about G-d too which you do not understand.
You need to learn about the difference between "hislashbshus hashechina" and "hashraas hashechina" and many many other things.
But you dont' want to understand these things. You want to defame me and that's the end of it.
I still love you JNC. You are a very well meaning person.
G-d willilng one day when you can let go of your hate for Chabad and just delve deeper into the meaning of the Torah you will come to understand all of these matters well.
There is no use in talking to such a person because you are not open to reason at this point.
judeanoncapta:
--- Quote from: lubab on February 17, 2008, 07:42:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 07:29:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on February 17, 2008, 07:26:19 PM ---I have read Tania (I don't read it anymore, since my Rav says that once I decided to remain a Goy, I must stop studying any Torah which is not relevant to Noachides), and I agree with the Alter Rebbe.
And you, Judean, why did you consult the Rav in a Chassic Hebrew code, and then translated his answer to English? Just to confuse those who don't understand that code???
--- End quote ---
You are assuming that those words are code, they are not.
I didn't confuse anyone, Lubab is trying to do that in order to justify his idolatry.
I asked him if he beleived his Rabbi was the essence of G-d clothed in a body and he said yes.
That is not code for something else, that is idolatry according to the Torah, without a question.
--- End quote ---
Wrong. The words "enclothed" have a very specific meaning to be differentiated with "shored" "indwelling"
You need to understand what we are talking about when we say "Rebbe" in this context and we need to understand a few things about G-d too which you do not understand.
You need to learn about the difference between "hislashbshus hashechina" and "hashraas hashechina" and many many other things.
But you dont' want to understand these things. You want to defame me and that's the end of it.
I still love you JNC. You are a very well meaning person.
G-d willilng one day when you can let go of your hate for Chabad and just delve deeper into the meaning of the Torah you will come to understand all of these matters well.
There is no use in talking to such a person because you are not open to reason at this point.
--- End quote ---
I feel about Chabad the way I do because I know Chabad. I come from a Chabad family and learned in Chabad Yeshivos.
My family has been Chabad for atleast 150 years.
So if you wanted to know about my yichus, I'm gezha, Lubab.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 07:47:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 17, 2008, 07:42:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 07:29:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on February 17, 2008, 07:26:19 PM ---I have read Tania (I don't read it anymore, since my Rav says that once I decided to remain a Goy, I must stop studying any Torah which is not relevant to Noachides), and I agree with the Alter Rebbe.
And you, Judean, why did you consult the Rav in a Chassic Hebrew code, and then translated his answer to English? Just to confuse those who don't understand that code???
--- End quote ---
You are assuming that those words are code, they are not.
I didn't confuse anyone, Lubab is trying to do that in order to justify his idolatry.
I asked him if he beleived his Rabbi was the essence of G-d clothed in a body and he said yes.
That is not code for something else, that is idolatry according to the Torah, without a question.
--- End quote ---
Wrong. The words "enclothed" have a very specific meaning to be differentiated with "shored" "indwelling"
You need to understand what we are talking about when we say "Rebbe" in this context and we need to understand a few things about G-d too which you do not understand.
You need to learn about the difference between "hislashbshus hashechina" and "hashraas hashechina" and many many other things.
But you dont' want to understand these things. You want to defame me and that's the end of it.
I still love you JNC. You are a very well meaning person.
G-d willilng one day when you can let go of your hate for Chabad and just delve deeper into the meaning of the Torah you will come to understand all of these matters well.
There is no use in talking to such a person because you are not open to reason at this point.
--- End quote ---
I feel about Chabad the way I do because I know Chabad. I come from a Chabad family and learned in Chabad Yeshivos.
My family has been Chabad for atleast 150 years.
So if you wanted to know about my yichus, I'm gezha, Lubab.
--- End quote ---
Gezha doesn't mean squat.
They are some of the most messed up families around. And it also doesn't mean you know the first thing about chassidic terminology because even most lubvitchers do not know how to decode this stuff at all.
judeanoncapta:
--- Quote from: lubab on February 17, 2008, 08:13:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 07:47:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 17, 2008, 07:42:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 07:29:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on February 17, 2008, 07:26:19 PM ---I have read Tania (I don't read it anymore, since my Rav says that once I decided to remain a Goy, I must stop studying any Torah which is not relevant to Noachides), and I agree with the Alter Rebbe.
And you, Judean, why did you consult the Rav in a Chassic Hebrew code, and then translated his answer to English? Just to confuse those who don't understand that code???
--- End quote ---
You are assuming that those words are code, they are not.
I didn't confuse anyone, Lubab is trying to do that in order to justify his idolatry.
I asked him if he beleived his Rabbi was the essence of G-d clothed in a body and he said yes.
That is not code for something else, that is idolatry according to the Torah, without a question.
--- End quote ---
Wrong. The words "enclothed" have a very specific meaning to be differentiated with "shored" "indwelling"
You need to understand what we are talking about when we say "Rebbe" in this context and we need to understand a few things about G-d too which you do not understand.
You need to learn about the difference between "hislashbshus hashechina" and "hashraas hashechina" and many many other things.
But you dont' want to understand these things. You want to defame me and that's the end of it.
I still love you JNC. You are a very well meaning person.
G-d willilng one day when you can let go of your hate for Chabad and just delve deeper into the meaning of the Torah you will come to understand all of these matters well.
There is no use in talking to such a person because you are not open to reason at this point.
--- End quote ---
I feel about Chabad the way I do because I know Chabad. I come from a Chabad family and learned in Chabad Yeshivos.
My family has been Chabad for atleast 150 years.
So if you wanted to know about my yichus, I'm gezha, Lubab.
--- End quote ---
Gezha doesn't mean squat.
They are some of the most messed up families around. And it also doesn't mean you know the first thing about chassidic terminology because even most lubvitchers do not know how to decode this stuff at all.
--- End quote ---
Yichus seemed to have meant alot to you, when you were questioning mine. Now that you find out that my family has been Chabad for 150 years, suddenly it means nothing.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 10:02:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 17, 2008, 08:13:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 07:47:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 17, 2008, 07:42:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on February 17, 2008, 07:29:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on February 17, 2008, 07:26:19 PM ---I have read Tania (I don't read it anymore, since my Rav says that once I decided to remain a Goy, I must stop studying any Torah which is not relevant to Noachides), and I agree with the Alter Rebbe.
And you, Judean, why did you consult the Rav in a Chassic Hebrew code, and then translated his answer to English? Just to confuse those who don't understand that code???
--- End quote ---
You are assuming that those words are code, they are not.
I didn't confuse anyone, Lubab is trying to do that in order to justify his idolatry.
I asked him if he beleived his Rabbi was the essence of G-d clothed in a body and he said yes.
That is not code for something else, that is idolatry according to the Torah, without a question.
--- End quote ---
Wrong. The words "enclothed" have a very specific meaning to be differentiated with "shored" "indwelling"
You need to understand what we are talking about when we say "Rebbe" in this context and we need to understand a few things about G-d too which you do not understand.
You need to learn about the difference between "hislashbshus hashechina" and "hashraas hashechina" and many many other things.
But you dont' want to understand these things. You want to defame me and that's the end of it.
I still love you JNC. You are a very well meaning person.
G-d willilng one day when you can let go of your hate for Chabad and just delve deeper into the meaning of the Torah you will come to understand all of these matters well.
There is no use in talking to such a person because you are not open to reason at this point.
--- End quote ---
I feel about Chabad the way I do because I know Chabad. I come from a Chabad family and learned in Chabad Yeshivos.
My family has been Chabad for atleast 150 years.
So if you wanted to know about my yichus, I'm gezha, Lubab.
--- End quote ---
Gezha doesn't mean squat.
They are some of the most messed up families around. And it also doesn't mean you know the first thing about chassidic terminology because even most lubvitchers do not know how to decode this stuff at all.
--- End quote ---
Yichus seemed to have meant alot to you, when you were questioning mine. Now that you find out that my family has been Chabad for 150 years, suddenly it means nothing.
--- End quote ---
I was talking about REAL yichus. You know, like a straight line of Jews. A straight line of Lubavitchers means very little to me.
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