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Russia to cancel visas for Serbians
Ambiorix:
--- Quote from: Americanhero on March 28, 2008, 12:11:19 AM ---it has nothing to do with Serbia i don't like Russia because i am half Ukrainian and half Croat
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Europeans need to unite, not to fight each-other for some nationalistic agendas. The muslim enemy is within our borders and is multiplying fast, we have no time, nor resources to fight each-other.
As far as I know, Chechens were having semi-independence under the Tsars as well.
The war was difficult only because Russia was politically weak. Now these muzzies are back under control, their muslimnazi leader is payed by Putin to control the region, and that's going well.
Lots of other muzz-regions are not going to rebell against Russia . because, they are totally dependant on Moscow and the Kremlin.
The Caucasus at the other hand is getting more problematic now.
ThunderAppeal:
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on March 28, 2008, 02:43:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Americanhero on March 28, 2008, 12:11:19 AM ---it has nothing to do with Serbia i don't like Russia because i am half Ukrainian and half Croat
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Europeans need to unite, not to fight each-other for some nationalistic agendas. The muslim enemy is within our borders and is multiplying fast, we have no time, nor resources to fight each-other.
As far as I know, Chechens were having semi-independence under the Tsars as well.
The war was difficult only because Russia was politically weak. Now these muzzies are back under control, their muslimnazi leader is payed by Putin to control the region, and that's going well.
Lots of other muzz-regions are not going to rebell against Russia . because, they are totally dependant on Moscow and the Kremlin.
The Caucasus at the other hand is getting more problematic now.
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I'm not fighting with you guys, I now understand what your saying and what was explained to me.
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: ThunderAppeal on March 27, 2008, 11:56:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Americanhero on March 27, 2008, 11:43:38 PM ---Who is that directed towards?
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My response to you was the remark about Chechens.
The other post with bold letters is to DALMACIJA
I hope this clarifies?
And yes I saw your post and am aware that there are some Croatians who fought the nazis too.
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Friend, believe me 90% of the Croatian people supported the Croatian Nazi Ustasha government. The today's state of Croatia which is established on the principles of the Ustashi movement is still allied with Nazism.
The so called Croatian anti fascist movement was started and found by the Serbs.
The Serbian population of todays Croatia was fighting the Nazis and the Croatian Nazi government in 1941. The high majority of the Croatian people supported fanatically the Germans and their Nazi government which conducted genocide against the Serbs and the Jews.
German Nazis welcomed by the Croatian people in the Croatian capital Zagreb.
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: ThunderAppeal on March 27, 2008, 11:46:00 PM ---In any event, I certainly appreciate the respect you have showed me and definitely appreciate you helping me understand the difference between the Orthodox Church and the Vatican.
A lot of this interestingly seems to be making more and more sense.
So what church was Clinton in?
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Good my Jewish comrade.
Know that you can trust real Orthodox Christians!
Please stay here with us and we will together like brothers solve all the misunderstandings.
Clinton was an atheist I think...
Yonatan777:
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on March 27, 2008, 01:57:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThunderAppeal on March 26, 2008, 01:47:54 PM ---I'm going to clarify AGAIN, I said I support Serbia and what it is doing, I support Serbia because know as many russian Jewish people know they fought the nazis.
MY allegiance is with America and I am interested in helping my country in keeping from making become worse.
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Friend, you are not being resemble or realistic towards Russia.
You claim that Russia is an anti Semitic nation?
That is not true. Anti Semitism has it's roots coming from sources out side the Orthodox Church. If you clam that Orthodox Russia is anti Semitic than you are also saying that Orthodox Serbia is also involved with anti Semitism. The Serbs and the Russians have the same religion. You can not separate the Orthodox Church of Russia with Serbia’s.
Do not be naive.
Orthodoxism never tolerated anti Semitism.
Our church fathers always told us that anti Semitism has its roots outside the church!
We had a topic about this and you should read it and inform your self about the real relationship between Orthodoxism and anti Semitism.
I am going to tell you this as a Orthodox Christian and Serb:
The Orthodox Christian Church of Russia, Greece, Serbia and of others who kept the purity of the Christianity never compromised with theories from third parties.
The Christian religion is perfect because it is made by G-d but the Human who must obey it's teachings is not perfect! This means that the imperfect human must not modify or change something that is perfectly made! It is a shame and a crime to put changes into the Christian religion because it will be losing it’s perfection.
We the Serbs ( it counts also for the Russians) never compromised with the theory which teaches that the white “Christian” race is the chosen nation and that the Jews are evil.
This theory is accept by some protestant communities in America.
We say the role of the Jews still counts because G-d did not completely eliminate The Tanach. The new testament is more important for us Christian than The Tanach but The Tanach is not completely removed.
The Vatican has also a dark history from inquisitions, to genocide and anti Semitism.
You must know how to separate the values and the history of the Orthodox church from the one of the Vatican and of other “churches” which separated their selves from the Apostolic church of Jesus Christ which is today known as the Orthodox Church.
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Orthodox church never tolerated anti-semitism? What about the blood libels, the persecutions of the Jews in villages, by orthodox christian members. The constant label of Christ-killer and Communist? Who is being naive? Look, I respect Serbians for fighting nazis and their helping Jews in time of need, but do not turn a blind eye to the oppression of Jewish people by Orthodox Christians. Please don't blame the Catholics alone in this, as Orthodox, Protestant along with Catholics have been responsible for the suffering and torture of Jews in Europe. Don't say that Orthodox Russia did not play a great role in persecuting Jewish people. Many of the knights of the Czar who would attack villages in Russia, were also devoted Orthodox Christians, who belived attacking the Jews was justified, since it is a common view in Orthodox and Catholic religions that Jews are the killers of Christ. Now, I know there is many Orthodox, even Catholic people, who do not hold the contemporary view that Jews are Christ killers, some believe they are Chosen people, or that not one race is to be blamed for this; but you cannot deny the treatment that Jews went from the church in those days. Even today, many Russian Orthodox I meet are highly anti-semitic and believe the Jews are responsible for all suffering in the world. I think some people need to wake up.. Even though I don't like Albanian Muslims, there is also many Orthodox Christians in Albania, and the Jews never had experienced the horrible treatment living in Albania that they did in Orthodox Russia. A good deal of Albanians in the mountains and highlands are also Christian. Albania is a 30%-40% Christian country and they are seperated from Muslims.
Does this mean I support the stripping of Kosovo from Serbia and giving to Albanians? No, not at all.. As, any muslim state can harbor terrorism and people like Iranians, Pakistanis and Arabs will take advantage of having a new Islamic state to settle.
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