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Offline Odie

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Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sephardim ?
« on: March 12, 2008, 06:30:58 PM »
 I myself am not sure

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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 06:41:31 PM »
LOL I asked Chaim about that :) he said Kahane was mixed.

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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2008, 07:26:18 PM »
He was mixed.
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 09:53:54 PM »
I think his father was Ashkenazi.  I don't know where I heard it from.  Who knows for sure?

Well, it was for a reason that he was mixed.  That's how the Rav got the bravery and guts of the Sefaradim and the mental intellect and creativity of the Ashkenazim.   :)
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 10:00:11 PM »
Technically Askenaz (because it goes by the father and the wife takes on the husbands tradition, and customs).
 
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 10:00:25 PM »
I think his father was Ashkenazi.  I don't know where I heard it from.  Who knows for sure?
I know his father was originally from Tzfas, but that doesn't say whether he was Ashkenazi or Sephardi.  (You normally follow the customs of the father)

On the one hand, R' Kahane went to the Mirrer Yeshiva, which is an Ashkenazi Yeshiva, but on the other hand, I'm not sure if he wore a hat when he davened...

Does Rebbetzin Kahane speak about it in her book?

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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 10:52:56 PM »
Part of the point is that its a pointless division, just like all the different denominations of Judaism in Poland fought each other. We can follow the customs we choose without being labeled and separated.
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2008, 12:05:18 AM »
Who cares?  All I know is that he was bad ass!
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 12:13:47 AM »
What is the difference between Askhenazi to Sefaradim? I mean besides Geographical that one came from Europe and the others in either some Arabian or Persian countries?

Is there a different custom?  I ask this cause I wouldn't know cause I am not Jewish.
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 03:50:54 AM »
He was ashkenazi
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 05:33:25 AM »
Sefardic Jews mainly derive from the Jewish population in Babylon that started from the time of the First Exile.

Ashkenazi Jews mainly derive from the Jewish population of Eretz Yisrael that was dispersed from the time of the Second Exile.

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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2008, 09:45:34 AM »
Technically Askenaz (because it goes by the father and the wife takes on the husbands tradition, and customs).
What if let's say, a convert marries a Mizrahi Jew? What customs and tradition does the family take?
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2008, 09:59:37 AM »
A Ger Tzedek will generally take on the minhagim of his Rebbe, if its a woman she will take her husbands minhagm
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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2008, 12:36:39 PM »
Why should it matter?

 
If you're unable to answer this, then the thread is pointless. 

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Re: Was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sefaradim ?
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2008, 08:37:48 PM »
Because it is someones heritage. Also he follows certain customs, which the other wont.