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Pathetic speech my dumb Satmur ghetto Rabbi gave
q_q_:
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on March 19, 2008, 05:25:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on March 18, 2008, 01:08:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on March 17, 2008, 05:16:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on March 15, 2008, 08:36:11 PM ---Yeah sure, I know what this Rabbi means. He meant what he said that even if we know who Amalek is we shouldn't kill them but simply learn Torah. And when our enemies rise up against us to kill us the Rabbi would say the same thing, don't fight them but simply learn Torah. He's a full fledged fool.
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We don't know who Amelek is. Today we can only fulfill that Mitzvah by wiping out the Sofek.
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That is my point. You are so used to quoting drush in place of pshat that you did not even bother to explain to anyone that Amalek is the same numerical value as Safek(doubt).
It is so simple in your mind that it doesn't need an explanation.
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So, what's you point?
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deary me!!!!!!!
judeanoncapta:
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on March 19, 2008, 05:25:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on March 18, 2008, 01:08:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on March 17, 2008, 05:16:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on March 15, 2008, 08:36:11 PM ---Yeah sure, I know what this Rabbi means. He meant what he said that even if we know who Amalek is we shouldn't kill them but simply learn Torah. And when our enemies rise up against us to kill us the Rabbi would say the same thing, don't fight them but simply learn Torah. He's a full fledged fool.
--- End quote ---
We don't know who Amelek is. Today we can only fulfill that Mitzvah by wiping out the Sofek.
--- End quote ---
That is my point. You are so used to quoting drush in place of pshat that you did not even bother to explain to anyone that Amalek is the same numerical value as Safek(doubt).
It is so simple in your mind that it doesn't need an explanation.
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So, what's your point?
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My point was well-expressed, sir.
Please review.
OdKahaneChai:
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on March 19, 2008, 05:51:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on March 19, 2008, 05:25:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on March 18, 2008, 01:08:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on March 17, 2008, 05:16:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on March 15, 2008, 08:36:11 PM ---Yeah sure, I know what this Rabbi means. He meant what he said that even if we know who Amalek is we shouldn't kill them but simply learn Torah. And when our enemies rise up against us to kill us the Rabbi would say the same thing, don't fight them but simply learn Torah. He's a full fledged fool.
--- End quote ---
We don't know who Amelek is. Today we can only fulfill that Mitzvah by wiping out the Sofek.
--- End quote ---
That is my point. You are so used to quoting drush in place of pshat that you did not even bother to explain to anyone that Amalek is the same numerical value as Safek(doubt).
It is so simple in your mind that it doesn't need an explanation.
--- End quote ---
So, what's your point?
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My point was well-expressed, sir.
Please review.
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So are you claiming that you DO know who Amalek is today. Because I'm curious as to who it is...
q_q_:
I think he would agree with me that he is not saying we can identify amalek.
He is criticising your style .. of mixing psak and drash or midrash, like it is one thing.
I think it is bad.. (mixing midrash with psak implies taking midrash literally, and also, not taking into account that sometimes midrashim can disagree). It is very unacademic, messy thinking. People reading what you write/say will end up mixing up sources and have no textual basis, and that will happen to you too if it hasn`t already.
JNC did not state his reason why it is bad..
judeanoncapta:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on March 19, 2008, 07:17:45 PM ---I think he would agree with me that he is not saying we can identify amalek.
He is criticising your style .. of mixing psak and drash or midrash, like it is one thing.
I think it is bad.. (mixing midrash with psak implies taking midrash literally, and also, not taking into account that sometimes midrashim can disagree). It is very unacademic, messy thinking. People reading what you write/say will end up mixing up sources and have no textual basis, and that will happen to you too if it hasn`t already.
JNC did not state his reason why it is bad..
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You said it better than I could.
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