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Pathetic speech my dumb Satmur ghetto Rabbi gave

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newman:

--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on March 17, 2008, 04:02:53 AM ---Jdl4ever I couldn't agree with you more. This ghetto mentality is what always gets jews killed. Some jews will never learn from the past.

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If it makes you feel better, mainstream christian clergymen are equally insane.

They think sitting around, praying to the cabinet maker and turning the other cheek will fix everything!

Society has become so morally vaccuous that even spiritual leaders can no longer identify evil even when it's holding them by the throat.

OdKahaneChai:

--- Quote from: q_q_ on March 19, 2008, 07:17:45 PM ---I think he would agree with me that he is not saying we can identify amalek.

He is criticising your style .. of mixing psak and drash or midrash, like it is one thing.

I think it is bad.. (mixing midrash with psak implies taking midrash literally, and also, not taking into account that sometimes midrashim can disagree). It is very unacademic, messy thinking. People reading what you write/say will end up mixing up sources and have no textual basis, and that will happen to you too if it hasn`t already.

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When did I bring up a Midrash?

And if you claim that this "midrash" is not true, and that we CAN'T identify Amalek today, then how exactly are we supposed to fulfill the Mitzvah?  Once again, I'm quite curious...

takebackourtemple:
   I would like to see all Satanmar Rabbis stripped of their Rabinical ordination by a Bait Din. Hopefully the Israeli government does not recognize Satanmar ordination. I think they still don't recognize non-orthodox Rabbis from the Reform and Conservative, but am not 100% sure.
   JDL4Ever, I recognize that it is important to get married and have children as commanded by the torah. I wish I could help you so you didn't have to have any association with this self-hating Jew but I can't even help myself. Looking back at things though, I personally recognize that hashem has come through for me when I have done Mitzvot. Perhaps this is a case, where hashem is asking you to put your faith in him as I'm sure you will make the right decision either way. I wish you the best of luck and will include you in my prayers this Shabbat.

OdKahaneChai:

--- Quote from: takebackourtemple on March 19, 2008, 10:58:34 PM ---   I would like to see all Satmar Rabbis stripped of their Rabinical ordination by a Bait Din. Hopefully the Israeli government does not recognize Satanmar ordination. I think they still don't recognize non-orthodox Rabbis from the Reform and Conservative, but am not 100% sure.

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Chas V'Sholom!  The Satmar Rebbe, ZTVK"L, was one of the Greatest Talmidei Chochomim to ever live, and even though I have some slight halachic differences with them, they are for the most part great Chossidim and Great Talmidei Chochomim.

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
JDL if you want to get married, then do it threw a different way. If you really hate and disagree with the Rabbi, then simply dont go to him. Your title is innappropriate, and I would like to state that maybe he was saying one idea that comes out from the episode. If you dont want to learn from him or others like him, then dont go to them and on top of that use that to trash them. Anyway if your getting a wife from that community do you think your marriage will be going well if she finds out the way you refer to her Rav (or even Rav's in general). + even if you are right, the attitudes expressed are completly wrong, and you should watch the way you speak and refer to people.
 takeback- Who cares if the government accepts something or not? You think anyone really gives a Sh*t, if anything it will strenthen any Religious group knowing the eruv rav itself is fighting agains't you.

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