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Pathetic speech my dumb Satmur ghetto Rabbi gave
q_q_:
--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on March 21, 2008, 05:54:28 PM ---Now you are better able to "switch places" with the European Labor Zionists, and perhaps better understand their frustration which grew into contempt for their religious brethren who refused to even consider retaking Eretz Yisrael by force of arms; let alone consider physically moving there to live.
In the 1920's-1930's the European rabbis for the most part counseled and advised their co-religionists to "stay put", "study Torah", "don't fight back", and everything would be fine.
Don't misunderstand my comments above...I'm not excusing the behavior of the Labor Zionists...just pointing out that "when the chips were down" they had to go it alone and not count on Torah miracles to save European Jewry.
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They didn`t want religious jews at all..
From the little I have heard.. The religious jews prior to 1948 were turned away when there were immigration limits. And the arabic jews that came later, they were separated from their parents and put on secular kibbutzim.
The original secular zionists were only too happy the religious were staying put and dying. The revisionist secular zionists, like jabotinsky, wanted them to come.
And look what they did with Kahane. They don`t want militant religious jews, or passive religious jews. They want no religious jews.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
They want Power, no matter what. If it means keeping religious Jews out, then they will. If it means brining in russian amalikites then they will do it. By the way I kinda heard that the doors between Israel and Russia are more open, anyone can come without a visa, or something to that affect. Maybe even get earier citizenship (G-d forbid).
MassuhDGoodName:
"...anyone can come without a visa, or something to that affect..."
Cool!
Chaim can fly to Moscow, and from there to Tel-Aviv!
Or...to Ukraine dressed as a Lubavitcher, and then to Tel-Aviv!
q_q_:
--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on March 22, 2008, 11:37:41 PM ---"...anyone can come without a visa, or something to that affect..."
Cool!
Chaim can fly to Moscow, and from there to Tel-Aviv!
Or...to Ukraine dressed as a Lubavitcher, and then to Tel-Aviv!
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Satmar would be a better disguise
OdKahaneChai:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on March 22, 2008, 11:49:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on March 22, 2008, 11:37:41 PM ---"...anyone can come without a visa, or something to that affect..."
Cool!
Chaim can fly to Moscow, and from there to Tel-Aviv!
Or...to Ukraine dressed as a Lubavitcher, and then to Tel-Aviv!
--- End quote ---
Satmar would be a better disguise
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The Israeli government hates all Chassidim, it wouldn't make a difference.
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