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Herzl and the Zionists (Yimach Shemo)

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habiru:

--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on December 28, 2006, 10:08:31 PM ---

 He may have said some things that he probably shouldn't have said but does that make him an anti-semite?
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Yes.
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Satmar Rebbe called fellow Jews worse names. Are you gonna call him an anti-semite too? Of course not, he must be a saint to you even though he had no problems enlisting the help of the Zionists in Hungary to save his own skin during the Holocaust (and may I point out while leaving scores of his followers behind to perish).

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: habiru on December 28, 2006, 10:21:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on December 28, 2006, 10:08:31 PM ---

 He may have said some things that he probably shouldn't have said but does that make him an anti-semite?
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Yes.

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Satmar Rebbe called fellow Jews worse names. Are you gonna call him an anti-semite too? Of course not, he must be a saint to you even though he had no problems enlisting the help of the Zionists in Hungary to save his own skin during the Holocaust (and may I point out while leaving scores of his followers behind to perish).
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I dont know enough about the Satmer Rebbe, to make judgement.

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
dude im not Satmer, nor do I agree with them or like them. Why is it that when the secular zionists are mentioned, people have to defend them by saying that the Satmer are this and that, its 2 diff. issues.

habiru:
Who said anything about secular and religious? If anyhting it is you who has the double standard. Just  because Jabo was secular doesn't automatically make him a bad Jew. You, sir have a problem with Jabotinsky for some odd reason.

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: habiru on December 28, 2006, 11:20:47 PM ---Who said anything about secular and religious? If anyhting it is you who has the double standard. Just  because Jabo was secular doesn't automatically make him a bad Jew. You, sir have a problem with Jabotinsky for some odd reason.

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i guess you didnt watch the video and what jabo stated.

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