Chaim and Yacov: Who wears the pants on this forum, anyway?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Chaim, Yacov, and all other moderators:

Just who is in charge of this forum, anyway? We have one "maverick" moderator (and that is putting it politely) who is currently in the business of banning members who disagree with his Shasism/Yekutiel worship.

Dear Chaim:

Can you please tell Downwithislam not to go on the Kahane.org forum and give JTF a bad name by cursing out Yekutiel and his people.  He posts in threads having nothing to do with JTF and curses out Yekutiel on their forum and is giving JTF a bad name since people think he is representing JTF and we curse out any righteous individual or organization who doesn't join us.  Also please tell him that if he doesn't repent and stop posting Loshon Harah in the question he just asked you on this thread, he's going to go to hell for his Loshon Harah.  We want to be known as uniters and not dividers.  DWI has been banned for three days as he was warned before about this.  Thank you.

Ex-freaking scuse me? Since when is responding to attacks made against us by self-hating Jews on other forums a bannable offense? jdl4ever has, on many occasions, proclaimed that he is a proud member of Kahane.org and belonged to them before discovering JTF. At a minimum, then, he should not be allowed to make decisions on kahane.org members out of the conflict of interest.

I also recall that a couple months ago, I made an anti-Yekutiel thread (that criticized no forum members whatsoever) that just about caused jdl to have a stroke. He rather humiliated himself in his attempts to discredit me, but regardless... nobody seemed to notice, or care about, his exceedingly poor behavior. And what were you thinking, Yacov? I backed up everything I said, and yet I was accused of "deliberately" lying.

Let's refresh everyone's memory here:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=17224.msg192070;topicseen#msg192070

It is insane that around here Shas and Mike Guzofsky have become untouchable; what is this--the B'nei Brith forum? Neither DownwithIslam nor I have flamed Rabbi Ovadia Yosef or any other actual religious leaders. If Yekutiel is now considered a hallowed, infallible Torah scholar, then I have to seriously question the judgment of this forum.

Chaim, only you can put an end to this. I apologize for the bossy tone of this post, but this business of people being banned for attacking Shas or kahane.org has got to stop. It is simply not acceptable to have moderators who value Yekutiel over our movement on this forum, for obvious reasons. Nor is within forum rules to threaten fellow Jews with hell for criticizing people who deserve it. In fact, I believe threatening righteous Jews with hell for any reason is Lashon Hara.

Edit: If I get banned for this, I really don't care. I was banned once before for speaking my mind, and I really don't care if I am stepping on jdl's toes by stating the obvious.

Chaimfan.

[DownwithIslam]

I agree with you 100% Chaimfan. Don't worry, you will not be banned. I have a feeling that mods will be more careful before they ban from now on.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Thank you.

[JTFFan]

C.F. is probably one of the most righteous person on this forum

He should never be banned

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Thanks, everyone. I meant that jdl4ever would go crazy and ban me for daring to attack his ban of DownwithIslam, who is one of my all-time fave members.

And the truth is that I was banned once, a year ago, for stating that Gazan Muslim women ought to receive the Darfur treatment (because that would end the Kassam rockets really quickly).

[DownwithIslam]

Chaimfan will never be banned again. I hope that nobody gets banned like I did. Chaim addressed this in ask jtf. I am listening now and Chaim explains everything.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

[DownwithIslam]

I was banned for no reason by jdl4ever who has now been removed from his position. He banned me for something I said on another forum. Isn't that absurd? Chaim agrees with me though as is evident in this weeks program.

[Gruzinit]

This situation seems absurd and childish. How can we be "uniters and not dividers" as long as Yekutiel is the one who left this forum because he thought it was too "goyish". I believe if DWI's comments were critical, with the intent to discuss and debate, not slanderous or detrimental, then there was no reason for him to be banned. No person, religous or secular should be spared from criticism because of silly personal politics, that would make us no better than the very groups we criticize.

[DownwithIslam]

Thanks g-d that jdl4ever is gone. How could he have banned me for something I did on another forum. Even if I posted porno on other forums(which i did not do) I still should not be banned from this forum. This is why Chaim got so mad at jdl4ever.

[kahaneloyalist]

This situation seems absurd and childish. How can we be "uniters and not dividers" as long as Yekutiel is the one who left this forum because he thought it was too "goyish". I believe if DWI's comments were critical, with the intent to discuss and debate, not slanderous or detrimental, then there was no reason for him to be banned. No person, religous or secular should be spared from criticism because of silly personal politics, that would make us no better than the very groups we criticize.

Not sure what you are talking about, yekutiel was never a active member here

[DownwithIslam]

Gruzinit you are very smart in your analysis.

In the end, it was ALL taken care off!

This was a VERY troubling situation and JDL4ever showed his true colors. It hurts but these things happen sometimes.

People just shouldn't ban someone because of a personal reason (like liking someone else who's a joke-like yuket..you know who, lol and being overly sensitive about it). It was troubling is all I can say. Good thing it got taken care off in time!

Mills, at least when we had our disagreement, you didn't abuse your powers and ban me like jdl4ever did. That should be commended. Mills, can you believe I was banned from this forum for something I  said on a totally different forum? That is low. I believe Chaim handled the situation with wisdom and everything is wonderful.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

LOL, DownwithIslam. That's exactly what the Nazi fag Anus-T did.   I don't think you would ever stoop to his level.  

[DownwithIslam]

LOL, DownwithIslam. That's exactly what the Nazi fag Anus-T did.   I don't think you would ever stoop to his level.  

I certainly will not stoop to that level. I am happy that everything worked out for the good.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Gruzinit, I think you should take his place. I know we have discussed this before, but I haven't stopped supporting Yacov's nomination.  

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

[kahaneloyalist]

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

You are a Goy, DWI's posts were pure lashon hara as well as being pretty ridiculous. He went on to a separate forum attacking them viciously for not accepting Chaim's leadership. I am probably the only one on this forum in Israel, while Yekutiel is known in all the right wing circles, outside of the people he supports financially almost no one has heard of Chaim; it may change but that is the current reality.

Chaim has made a choice to reach out and be friendly with the Goyim, very very few Kahanists in Israel support this.

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

Please link I dont remember that

[DownwithIslam]

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

You are a Goy, DWI's posts were pure lashon hara as well as being pretty ridiculous. He went on to a separate forum attacking them viciously for not accepting Chaim's leadership. I am probably the only one on this forum in Israel, while Yekutiel is known in all the right wing circles, outside of the people he supports financially almost no one has heard of Chaim; it may change but that is the current reality.

Chaim has made a choice to reach out and be friendly with the Goyim, very very few Kahanists in Israel support this.

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

Please link I dont remember that

Oy vey, here we go attacking the goyim again. This is what people do when they have nothing else to say. Yekutiel is a looser. Did you listen to ask jtf and hear how he didn't mind when 87,000 dollars was stolen from chaim by irv rubin. Stop sticking up for this kind of crap on here.

[DownwithIslam]

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

I do remember Chaimfan. I don't want to open a new can of worms now since I think that some people who are members of the forum were part of the group. So as not to create a distraction from our goal of being a mass movement, lets not bring that up but I agree with you totally Chaimfan.

[DownwithIslam]

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

You are a Goy, DWI's posts were pure lashon hara as well as being pretty ridiculous. He went on to a separate forum attacking them viciously for not accepting Chaim's leadership. I am probably the only one on this forum in Israel, while Yekutiel is known in all the right wing circles, outside of the people he supports financially almost no one has heard of Chaim; it may change but that is the current reality.

Chaim has made a choice to reach out and be friendly with the Goyim, very very few Kahanists in Israel support this.

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

Please link I dont remember that

Also, chaim explained how what I have said is not loshon hara at all. I would review the halachos when it comes to a "public" person if I were you.

[kahaneloyalist]

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

What about Lubab and Judea Non Capta?

right you are

I know, DWI. I was upset when I found out. It was terrible, VERY terrible to read and I was very dissapointed with JDL4ever. It's like a terrible treason from someone we knew, spoke to and liked. So like Cosmo, I am filled with disappointment.
The only people I ban are the nazis who come into the forum to post they Jew hatred! I would never ban a righteous member like that. Especially for something that happened at a different forum, I mean, come on!
It's all too crazy and too sad.

I agree whole heardedly. To slander a man like Chaim Ben Pesach is horrible to say the least. Especially if he sacrificed years of his life in prison to free soviet Jews. I will not stand idly by why I a member who is doing this. This whole thing is very upseting to me. And believe me, JDL4EVER would have banned C.F. in a heartbeat if he saw this post. In my honest opinion JDL4EVER must never be let back on this forum. He has spread alot of vicious loshon hara against us. I hope the moderator have his I.P. so he doesn't try to come here again. I used to think JDL4EVER was a good member, but he turned like a rabid dog against all of us. Very saddening.

What Lashon Hara? Bring a sourec of Lashon Hara he said, when did he slander Chaim. What did JDL do besides argue against speaking real lashon hara against a Jewish hero like Yekutiel who was Rabbi Kahane's right hand in Israel and also went to prison though this was for anti-Arab actions

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

You are a Goy, DWI's posts were pure lashon hara as well as being pretty ridiculous. He went on to a separate forum attacking them viciously for not accepting Chaim's leadership. I am probably the only one on this forum in Israel, while Yekutiel is known in all the right wing circles, outside of the people he supports financially almost no one has heard of Chaim; it may change but that is the current reality.

Chaim has made a choice to reach out and be friendly with the Goyim, very very few Kahanists in Israel support this.

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

Please link I dont remember that

Oy vey, here we go attacking the goyim again. This is what people do when they have nothing else to say. Yekutiel is a looser. Did you listen to ask jtf and hear how he didn't mind when 87,000 dollars was stolen from chaim by irv rubin. Stop sticking up for this kind of crap on here.

It is pretty disgusting that you are so quick to attack someone who has actually been fighitng for the Jewish people for years and who Rabbi Kahane zt'l trusted as a loser.

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

You are a Goy, DWI's posts were pure lashon hara as well as being pretty ridiculous. He went on to a separate forum attacking them viciously for not accepting Chaim's leadership. I am probably the only one on this forum in Israel, while Yekutiel is known in all the right wing circles, outside of the people he supports financially almost no one has heard of Chaim; it may change but that is the current reality.

Chaim has made a choice to reach out and be friendly with the Goyim, very very few Kahanists in Israel support this.

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

Please link I dont remember that

Also, chaim explained how what I have said is not loshon hara at all. I would review the halachos when it comes to a "public" person if I were you.

I'll tell you what, I will again learn the Halachot of Lashon Hara if you agree to learn them for the first time

[DownwithIslam]

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

What about Lubab and Judea Non Capta?

right you are

I know, DWI. I was upset when I found out. It was terrible, VERY terrible to read and I was very dissapointed with JDL4ever. It's like a terrible treason from someone we knew, spoke to and liked. So like Cosmo, I am filled with disappointment.
The only people I ban are the nazis who come into the forum to post they Jew hatred! I would never ban a righteous member like that. Especially for something that happened at a different forum, I mean, come on!
It's all too crazy and too sad.

I agree whole heardedly. To slander a man like Chaim Ben Pesach is horrible to say the least. Especially if he sacrificed years of his life in prison to free soviet Jews. I will not stand idly by why I a member who is doing this. This whole thing is very upseting to me. And believe me, JDL4EVER would have banned C.F. in a heartbeat if he saw this post. In my honest opinion JDL4EVER must never be let back on this forum. He has spread alot of vicious loshon hara against us. I hope the moderator have his I.P. so he doesn't try to come here again. I used to think JDL4EVER was a good member, but he turned like a rabid dog against all of us. Very saddening.

What Lashon Hara? Bring a sourec of Lashon Hara he said, when did he slander Chaim. What did JDL do besides argue against speaking real lashon hara against a Jewish hero like Yekutiel who was Rabbi Kahane's right hand in Israel and also went to prison though this was for anti-Arab actions

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

You are a Goy, DWI's posts were pure lashon hara as well as being pretty ridiculous. He went on to a separate forum attacking them viciously for not accepting Chaim's leadership. I am probably the only one on this forum in Israel, while Yekutiel is known in all the right wing circles, outside of the people he supports financially almost no one has heard of Chaim; it may change but that is the current reality.

Chaim has made a choice to reach out and be friendly with the Goyim, very very few Kahanists in Israel support this.

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

Please link I dont remember that

Oy vey, here we go attacking the goyim again. This is what people do when they have nothing else to say. Yekutiel is a looser. Did you listen to ask jtf and hear how he didn't mind when 87,000 dollars was stolen from chaim by irv rubin. Stop sticking up for this kind of crap on here.

It is pretty disgusting that you are so quick to attack someone who has actually been fighitng for the Jewish people for years and who Rabbi Kahane zt'l trusted as a loser.

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

You are a Goy, DWI's posts were pure lashon hara as well as being pretty ridiculous. He went on to a separate forum attacking them viciously for not accepting Chaim's leadership. I am probably the only one on this forum in Israel, while Yekutiel is known in all the right wing circles, outside of the people he supports financially almost no one has heard of Chaim; it may change but that is the current reality.

Chaim has made a choice to reach out and be friendly with the Goyim, very very few Kahanists in Israel support this.

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

Please link I dont remember that

Also, chaim explained how what I have said is not loshon hara at all. I would review the halachos when it comes to a "public" person if I were you.

I'll tell you what, I will again learn the Halachot of Lashon Hara if you agree to learn them for the first time

Maybe you are dyslexic and didn't read it properly the first time because Chaim explained that it is not loshon hara when you legitimately critique a public person.

[DownwithIslam]

Mills you are right. This doesn't help the forum. I will stop.

[Dr. Dan]

Thanks, everyone. I meant that jdl4ever would go crazy and ban me for daring to attack his ban of DownwithIslam, who is one of my all-time fave members.

And the truth is that I was banned once, a year ago, for stating that Gazan Muslim women ought to receive the Darfur treatment (because that would end the Kassam rockets really quickly).

i remember being upset by that, CF...and today i agree with that statement

[Dr. Dan]

jdl4ever banned him because he went over to kahane.org to flame them back for calling us "goy" and slandering Chaim ben Pesach.

You are a Goy, DWI's posts were pure lashon hara as well as being pretty ridiculous. He went on to a separate forum attacking them viciously for not accepting Chaim's leadership. I am probably the only one on this forum in Israel, while Yekutiel is known in all the right wing circles, outside of the people he supports financially almost no one has heard of Chaim; it may change but that is the current reality.

Chaim has made a choice to reach out and be friendly with the Goyim, very very few Kahanists in Israel support this.

This whole thing is very dissapointing; with JDL gone that further reduces the number of Daati Jews here, I think its only me Tzvi and Shlomo at this point, apologies if I left anyone out.

DWI, do you remember when the Yekutiel supporters who came here to troll us were defending Anus-T?

Please link I dont remember that

Oy vey, here we go attacking the goyim again. This is what people do when they have nothing else to say. Yekutiel is a looser. Did you listen to ask jtf and hear how he didn't mind when 87,000 dollars was stolen from chaim by irv rubin. Stop sticking up for this kind of crap on here.

Looser?  Only if he ate lots of peaches