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Rubystars:
--- Quote from: Muck DeFuslims on April 14, 2008, 12:05:01 AM ---This is a preposterous response.
First of all, Fluge can and does credit scientific evidence for his abondoning his status as the world's most renown atheist and his newfound belief in the existence of G-d.
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While you can certainly draw inferences from nature, there's no way to scientifically demonstrate God. That's why I think it's erroneous to credit science for a belief in God.
--- Quote ---It's audacious to suggest that after decades of being the most outspoken advocate of atheism that Fluge haphazardly reversed his position and that his reasons for doing so were illogical. Exactly the opposite is true, but I guess if you want to psychoanalyze Fluge and come to the conclusion that he's merely trying to 'justify' himself, that's your right.
Secondly, you say that "It's good if he decides not to be an atheist anymore". Why is that ? After all, you seem to believe his decision to no longer be an atheist isn't based on logic and can't be justified on a scientific basis. So why do you think it's 'good' he changed his mind ?
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I think he should have changed his mind because he was wrong when it came to God. If he now believes in God then he's right. I have reasons for believing in God. Science is exclusively about the physical, natural world. God is supernatural, beyond nature. Science just isn't equipped to study something like that. To me it looks like you want to use a pair of pliers instead of a hammer to drive a nail.
Wayne Jude:
Really deep stuff!
Rubystars:
--- Quote from: Christianwhitenation.name on April 14, 2008, 09:31:31 AM ---Really deep stuff!
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Yeah I just hope everyone stays civil, because these types of debates have a tendency to get out of hand.
Wayne Jude:
Very loving man here.I dont hate anyone! :)
Muck DeFuslims:
"I think he should have changed his mind because he was wrong when it came to G-d. If he now believes in G-d then he's right. I have reasons for believing in G-d."
Would you care to share those reasons ?
I would agree that science has been unable to (and probably will never be able to) definitively prove or disprove the existence of G-d. However, this is not the same as saying that scientific evidence does not exist that points to the existence of a supreme being.
Whatever your reasons for believing in G-d might be, you're certainly entitled to them. I just don't understand why you would think that scientific evidence pointing to the existence of G-d can't or doesn't exist or why you would be disturbed by former atheists changing their minds based on scientific evidence rather than faith.
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