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q_q_:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 22, 2008, 07:41:49 AM ---So why couldn't they pick a different number for those functions?



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'cos other numbers don't work for it!!

the circumference of a circle = 2*pi*r    (or pi * diameter   , same thing 'cos diameter is 2*r)

if you change pi from 3.1415926.......    to  5.4692342   Then you get the wrong value

similarly, the area of a circle is pi * r^2

r is the radius of the circle

Nic Brookes:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 22, 2008, 07:41:49 AM ---So why couldn't they pick a different number for those functions?



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Nobody made it up, it's a fundamental truth. Maths just WORKS because it is a fundamental truth. For example if I have a floor which is 5 tiles by 7 tiles it has 35 tiles as 5 x 7 = 35. If someone had just made up a different number for what 5 x 7 is maths would not work. Maths is fundamental, created by God, not humans.

Katie:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 06, 2008, 07:06:01 PM ---
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--- Quote from: shimon on June 05, 2008, 09:13:17 PM ---Does shaking a women's hand make you aroused?

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--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 05, 2008, 08:59:17 PM ---Yes, it does make a man aroused if the woman is attractive.

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--- Quote from: shimon on June 05, 2008, 08:49:05 PM ---Yes but seeing an attractive can  also makes a man aroused. So should we require all women to stay in private?

No one can honestly tell you that in today's world a handshake will lead to sexual activity.

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I don't believe that either.



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Don't believe what

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That a handshake automatically lead to sexual activity / immorality.

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I never said it does. I said it leads to a sexual feeling in your body just like when the woman hairdresser washes your hair.


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I hope you find and marry your wife real soon, because it must be very hard for you to live under such restrictions / sensorial deprivation, especially at your age...

I could never make it. Hats off to you Yacov.



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haha i agree for sure... and how can people say that a handshake will lead to sexual relations? thats just rediculous

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No one said it leads to sexual relations. But it is a fact that a man gets sexual pleasure from shaking the hand of an attractive woman which is why the rabbis banned it for Jews.



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its pretty rediculous to ban shaking hands, thats just a social norm in america today you shake hands, if u dont people will look at you like ur a freak.. if ur comfortable with that then fine. and if ur so insecure or so hyper-sexual that u think about sex so much that even touching someone's hand for 2 seconds gives you all this sexual pleasure then theres something wrong with you ... if people want sexual pleasure they'll get it, no point in banning something as innocent as handshaking

q_q_:

--- Quote from: Katie on June 25, 2008, 03:48:36 AM ---<snip>
its pretty rediculous to ban shaking hands, thats just a social norm in america today you shake hands, if u dont people will look at you like ur a freak.. if ur comfortable with that then fine. and if ur so insecure or so hyper-sexual that u think about sex so much that even touching someone's hand for 2 seconds gives you all this sexual pleasure then theres something wrong with you ... if people want sexual pleasure they'll get it, no point in banning something as innocent as handshaking

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Ridiculous to ban it, but I don't think it's ridiculous to avoid it. There's sex and there's a small level of sexual feeling. It could cause a small level of sexual feeling.

Guys that kiss like other guys when the greet them (like arabs do) are a real nuisance. Very rare thankfully, but  happens. I know a rabbi that does, it has caused most people to avoid him completely.

I have a relative that does it, and I feel obliged to go along with it when he approaches me for it, because if i don't, it looks like i'm uncomfortable with it, which suggests that I think he's a bit gay. Which is an offensive suggestion. So to avoid that, I go along with it. I don't kiss him obviously , he just grabs people and gives them a big kiss on the cheek.

Katie:

--- Quote from: q_q_ on June 25, 2008, 02:50:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Katie on June 25, 2008, 03:48:36 AM ---<snip>
its pretty rediculous to ban shaking hands, thats just a social norm in america today you shake hands, if u dont people will look at you like ur a freak.. if ur comfortable with that then fine. and if ur so insecure or so hyper-sexual that u think about sex so much that even touching someone's hand for 2 seconds gives you all this sexual pleasure then theres something wrong with you ... if people want sexual pleasure they'll get it, no point in banning something as innocent as handshaking

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Ridiculous to ban it, but I don't think it's ridiculous to avoid it. There's sex and there's a small level of sexual feeling. It could cause a small level of sexual feeling.

Guys that kiss like other guys when the greet them (like arabs do) are a real nuisance. Very rare thankfully, but  happens. I know a rabbi that does, it has caused most people to avoid him completely.

I have a relative that does it, and I feel obliged to go along with it when he approaches me for it, because if i don't, it looks like i'm uncomfortable with it, which suggests that I think he's a bit gay. Which is an offensive suggestion. So to avoid that, I go along with it. I don't kiss him obviously , he just grabs people and gives them a big kiss on the cheek.


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yeaa but in many places its normal to kiss people as a greeting.. i mean i  do with close friends, family friends, stuff like that usually, its just something u do if u havnt seen someone in a long time.. plus i know in france and other places in europe its normal to kiss on the cheek as a greeting, in france its called la bise so its just a question of ur culture i guess and how you're raised...

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