Just Say No to Pro-German Members

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Attention Chaim ben Pesach and Mods:

We have a problem to deal with here--new members who have signed up here in order to defend the "honor" of Germany and German citizenry. I am thinking here of one person in particular--Lewisit--who has taken to making every kind of excuse imaginable for modern-day Germans (i.e. "average Germans who have defeated the ghosts of Nazi past are not our enemies" and other such Nazi taqqiyah). This is completely unacceptable on a Jewish/righteous Gentile forum.

This is just as bad as Jewish posters defending Satmar. I think that both of these things call for an immediate rule.

Chaimfan

[DownwithIslam]

I agree, the praising of anything Satmar or Nazi in any way should call for an immediate banning.

[underthesun]

Germany - most germans - are still on the wrong side today, but they are no worse than the french or the brits. As a rule of thumb: the more muslims are in a country, the worse is the country.

It is hard to mobilize support for Israel in Europe. Your post is clearly not helping!

You need to see european media to understand the way west europeans think. American media is biased, but german, british and french media is so far off.

If we help to spread the truth to the people, they will finally be on the side of israel.

[DALMACIJA]

Germans were always and stil are the greatest enemies of the Serbs in Europe.

I totally agree with this kind of policy.

[mord]

Why this sudden attack on German members ? C.F. you must understand the laws in Germany are very strict you can'nt say thing against ethnic groups,it's  not like here in the U.S. where you can say whatever you wish.

[kahaneloyalist]

I agree with CF, I dont think Germans should have been allowed to join in the first place and they should most definetly not be given free reign to defend that accursed land and excuse the Nazi crimes.

[underthesun]

I agree with CF, I dont think Germans should have been allowed to join in the first place

So german jews should not be allowed to the jtf? Interesting point!
Tell me: What does "being german" tell you about a person?

[mord]

I agree with CF, I dont think Germans should have been allowed to join in the first place and they should most definetly not be given free reign to defend that accursed land and excuse the Nazi crimes.

Why should'nt Germans be allowed to join none have defended Nazis and most are anti socialist /communist

[underthesun]

Germans were always and stil are the greatest enemies of the Serbs in Europe.

The war against the serbs was a crime and all the governments that supported that war deserve to be punished. And that includes Germany and USA.

Btw: Most germans don't care about Serbia. They don't even know where that country is.

[cjd]

Our forums policy is clear on this issue and I am sure our administrators and moderators will keep things right. As long as members are following the rules  I don't see a problem with what country members come from. We are expanding our advertisement into countries that will bring in many good members but some not so good ones also. This is the price we are going to pay in order to become a mass movement. Nobody misses the small group of members we had when the forum first started more than myself.  It was like sitting around a table discussing issues with friends or family. Our forum was started for bigger issues however and that is making JTF a mass movement in order to save  Israel and America from further disaster. Lets work with the new people that are coming in as long as they follow the rules the more people that are exposed to  JTF members the more people places that will come to know what JTF stands for.

[Ultra Requete]

Sorry but for me Germany lost all of honour after WWII. I agree with Dalmaciya germans have not honestly and voluntary apologised for their crimes, it was only becouse alies and soviets forced them too after they've lost the war. Modern "democratic" germany is still supporting Croatia and Bosnia against Serbia and refusing to compensate the german citisens tranffered out from Poland and Czech Republic after 1945. In the result the victims of WWII are threatened with lawsuits from organisations like Prussian Trust or Federation of Expellees.
There is also the question of german historical revisionism, germany are now trying to rewrite history and pose for victims of nazism. Of course we have greatmembers from Germany like Golden Phasant but we have to be vigilant. Maybe the average "Hans" is apathic now but German govermnt have clear policy of rebuilding Germany as superpower using the EU.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Trust   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_Expellees
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/02/390939.html
http://trans-int.blogspot.com/2005/05/neue-wache-germany-and-historical.html
http://atlanticreview.org/archives/649-Two-More-Americans-Accuse-Germany-of-Historical-Revisionism.html

[mord]

Alot of nazis are now leftists and leftists are now nazis   in fact socialism is the problem.This German Black nazi was first a leftist             




Mahler was sentenced to prison in January 2005, for spreading xenophobic and anti-Semitic propaganda and inciting violence in a leaflet that was handed out to journalists at a rally of the extreme right National Party of Germany (NPD), in 2002.

The 70 year old Mahler worked as a lawyer and is an active member within both the NPD and the Deutsches Kolleg - a right wing think tank calling for a nationalist-racial and socialist revolution in Germany. He had made no attempt to publicly hide his contempt for western, democratic and liberal values and Jews. As a former left-wing militant, he has also shown his disdain for German democratic conservatives. Mahler’s ideological goal is the destruction Judaism.

As a young lawyer, Mahler worked within a prominent Berlin law office until his socialist leanings led to involvement with clientele from the Extra-Parliamentary Opposition (APO), which in turn ruined his chance for a successful professional career.

Dedicated to continuing his work, Mahler jointly founded the first "socialist lawyers collective" and represented several activists within the German student movement of the 1960s. In 1970, he fled to Jordan and trained in guerrilla warfare tactics with the PLO. Upon his return to Germany, he co-founded the Red Army Faction which was the precursor to the Baader Meinhof Gang, one of Germany’s most destructive terror groups.

In 1972, Mahler was arrested and charged with “conspiracy to commit aggravated robbery in connection with the establishment of a criminal association and participation in the same” and sentenced to fourteen years in prison. It was around this time that Mahler began to shed his revolutionary international Marxist beliefs – which was rejected by the rest of the Baader Meinhof Gang – which virtually kicked him out. He was released early from prison in the early 1980s and was allowed to resume practicing law again under the condition that he change his political stance.



http://www.ejpress.org/article/12601

[Archie]

We are expanding our advertisement into countries that will bring in many good members but some not so good ones also.

I don't think JTF should advertise in Germany. It's just too risky.

Advertising anywhere else in Europe YES, but in Germany Nein!

[rebel_conservative]

Germany - most germans - are still on the wrong side today, but they are no worse than the french or the brits. As a rule of thumb: the more muslims are in a country, the worse is the country.

It is hard to mobilize support for Israel in Europe. Your post is clearly not helping!

You need to see european media to understand the way west europeans think. American media is biased, but german, british and french media is so far off.

agreed
though I would also add the more liberals in a country, the worse the country is. I think this is more crucial than the number of muslims

If we help to spread the truth to the people, they will finally be on the side of israel.

maybe, maybe not.  people don't want the truth, they like their comfortable bias and prejudices reinforced by political correctness and the approval of other liberals.

I don't generally believe that an actual malevolent being such as the devil exists, but so may people seem blinded by evil and hate that sometimes I do wonder (this is especially clear on the issue of abortion).  I feel that so many people today are blinded by anti-Semitism and hate.  we will win some people around with the truth, but not everyone.

[Ulli]

Sorry but for me Germany lost all of honour after WWII. I agree with Dalmaciya germans have not honestly and voluntary apologised for their crimes, it was only becouse alies and soviets forced them too after they've lost the war. Modern "democratic" germany is still supporting Croatia and Bosnia against Serbia and refusing to compensate the german citisens tranffered out from Poland and Czech Republic after 1945. In the result the victims of WWII are threatened with lawsuits from organisations like Prussian Trust or Federation of Expellees.
There is also the question of german historical revisionism, germany are now trying to rewrite history and pose for victims of nazism. Of course we have greatmembers from Germany like Golden Phasant but we have to be vigilant. Maybe the average "Hans" is apathic now but German govermnt have clear policy of rebuilding Germany as superpower using the EU.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Trust   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_Expellees
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/02/390939.html
http://trans-int.blogspot.com/2005/05/neue-wache-germany-and-historical.html
http://atlanticreview.org/archives/649-Two-More-Americans-Accuse-Germany-of-Historical-Revisionism.html

I have never understood, why the German gouvernment is lying about this issue. You are right, there were never a compensation for the property by the German gouvernment, only for the expenses of the move. This is written verbatim in the preface of the legal act.

The "Preußische Treuhand" is a private organisation with no connection to the gouvernment. Althrough it is destructive and evil.

In the rest of the issue, I agree with C.F.

Generally spoken it is dangerous to deny reality. What I have seen in the last few years is enough for the  proof.

[Ultra Requete]

Ruby Germans suffered becouse they first voted Hitler into power, and then backed him during the war they started. Anything that happened during or after the war was consequence of their actions: "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk; the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up." as Hosea said. I won't loose my nightsleap for them. Jews and other victims of III Reich on other hand were fully inocent and shud be not compared with Hitler backers.

 

[Rubystars]

Ruby Germans suffered becouse they first voted Hitler into power, and then backed him during the war they started. Anything that happened during or after the war was consequence of their actions: "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk; the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up." as Hosea said. I won't loose my nightsleap for them. Jews and other victims of III Reich on other hand were fully inocent and shud be not compared with Hitler backers.

 

I removed my post and sent it to C.F.

But since you responded to it, I'll respond to you. How can Down's syndrome sufferers be "Hitler backers"?

[cjd]

Ruby Germans suffered becouse they first voted Hitler into power, and then backed him during the war they started. Anything that happened during or after the war was consequence of their actions: "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk; the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up." as Hosea said. I won't loose my nightsleap for them. Jews and other victims of III Reich on other hand were fully inocent and shud be not compared with Hitler backers.

 

Hitler was a manifestation of the evil mind set that had become a part of German society. Hitler being a product of this society used all its tools to gain prominence. What he did while he was in power was more or less what the people of Germany wanted him to do. It was all good while he was winning the war and they were reaping their ill got gains. When the worm started to turn and they were on the loosing end the German people put it all on the backs of the Nazi's. Granted their were some good German folks who disagreed with the Nazi movement but for the most part when things were going well for Germany not much was being said by anyone. A consolidated Germany like we now again have is something that really requires close monitoring. Stalin knew this and this is why he saw fit that Germany remained divided after WW2 (Not that Stalin was any better). Now once again we have a German nation that is an industrial power house that under the wrong guidance and social condition could pick up right where it left off in the early 40's. It was good to see the Iron Curtain come down in Europe but it again leaves the world open to many of the old pitfalls.

[mord]

Stalin killed more people then Even Hitler

[Ultra Requete]

Stalin killed more people then Even Hitler

Right but had more time to do it, and crimes of comies don't excuse the crimes of nazis and vice versa both were inhumanly evil; To CJD it has nothing to do with iron curtain but all with unwilingness of Alies (America) to turn Germany back into pre Bismarck peacefull form. The Gemany not Austro-Hungary shud be divided after WWI but Wilson was free mason himself.