Author Topic: I'm a new no-jewish member of this forum (Read 9407 times)

beppe74 · « **on:** July 07, 2008, 03:40:37 PM »

I live in the UK but I'm a strong supporter of Israel.
I need help.
I'm a nationalist but at the same time I support Israel and Jewish so you must help me with that.
In Europe there is the problem of muslim integralism and one consequence is the rise of antisemitism so why some jewish organization keep promoting mass immigration including immigration from muslim countries?
Please don't be offended but you have to understand I am a bit confused.
I've laways believed there are several kind of jewish and many powerful one are overwhelming liberal and leftwinger.
Please help me to understand and Please,please,forgive me if i offended you because what I want is only to know more about this.
I really hope i will not kicked out from the forum.
Please accept my apoligise if someone will be offended.

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2008, 04:00:44 PM »

WELCOME

Dan · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2008, 04:06:56 PM »

Welcome Aboard.

Shamgar · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2008, 04:08:12 PM »

Welcome Beppe!!. You will find a bunch of great information and people with strong beliefs. Don't worry about offending anyone. I have done it a couple of times and they haven't kicked me out yet.

Cheers!

Zelhar · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2008, 05:50:54 PM »

Welcome to the forum. We don't like most Jewish organizations either. And not only are we against Muslim immigration, but we favor expulsion of Muslims from the non Muslim countries.

Boyana · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2008, 03:52:35 AM »

Welcome!
I am British born and I know what is like to have Arabs there.IN England you have to be very rich and live in the posh area not to have
them near you.

Ulli · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2008, 05:19:55 AM »

Yes Zelhar has put it in a nutshell.

Welcome

Hail Columbia · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2008, 05:30:57 AM »

Welcome to JTF.

mord · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:30:49 AM »

Welcome

beppe74 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2008, 12:16:21 PM »

To zelhar.
Can you please tell me which jewish organizations you like and dislike?
I need to know more to clarify my doubts.
Thanks a lot.

Shamgar · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2008, 12:27:09 PM »

The only thing worse than a liberal gentile is a liberal Jew.

Zelhar · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2008, 01:35:08 PM »

Quote from: beppe74 on July 08, 2008, 12:16:21 PM

To zelhar.
Can you please tell me which jewish organizations you like and dislike?
I need to know more to clarify my doubts.
Thanks a lot.

There are, unfortunately, mostly dislikes in my list. In Israel I support groups affiliated with Kahane. I might vote to the national front because there are no other right wing party to vote for. I would support the Beitar movement if it kept its ideology set by Zabotinski. Unfortunately the Likud, which is the modern form of Beitar, party today is a terrible party which handed over to the Arabs the Entire Sinai, Gaza, and parts of Smaria and Judea, if they have the chance they would give up everything to the Arabs.

We support the hilltop youth in Judea and Samaria and oppose the Yesha council which helped the government to fulfill the expulsion from Gush Katif.

Most international Jewish and so called 'zionist' organizations are either phony or traitorous. This include The Jewish agency, AIPAC, The Jewish Federation, ADL and almost any other organization.

The Only good political organization in the exile was the old JDL and now it is the JTF. I am not against Chabad either because they are loyal Jews who support Israel.

beppe74 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2008, 03:29:06 PM »

Thanks zelhar.
Can you suggest me some good website or blog where I can find Jewish like the one in this forum.
Also you know someone in the UK similar to JTF.
Sorry to trouble you but it seems to me that liberal Jewish have the total control even if they don't represent all the Jewish.
Correct me if I am wrong.

Zelhar · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2008, 04:00:20 PM »

I don't know many Jewish blogs. Our admin, Lisa, has a blog and she also runs the Jews Against Obama blog, and she probably could tell you of other ones. And another member here, horselady, has a blog.

I live in Israel so I don't know about UK organizations, and I doubt if there are any. However We have in this forum people from the UK like Yesha and q_q.

I am afraid the liberal Jews are in control of the Israeli government, the Jewish media, and most other Jewish organization. You need to make a distinction though between the self hating traitorous Jews who act against their people deliberately, to most other liberal Jews who are misguided and passive but they are loyal.

The traitors should be exposed and cut off from the Jewish people, the rest of the liberal Jews- we should show them a better way, hoping they understand that they were mislead.

Cato · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2008, 07:11:45 PM »

And me, I'm in the UK too..

Lisa · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2008, 09:51:09 PM »

Yes. I run the blog Jews Against Obama -- http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com My other one is The Urban Grind -- http://www.theurbangrind.net

Another right leaning American blogger is Pamela from Atlas Shrugs. http://[email protected]

Then there's Little Green Footballs (I know that Muman613 doesn't like Charles Johnson, but he posts some good stuff on the Middle East.) http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com

Also Muman613 has his own blog LGF Sucks -- http://lgfsucks.wordpress.com

You might also want to check out Israpundit -- http://www.israpundit.com (Good information there, but I don't know if they're as hardcore as us.)

Something And Half Of Something -- http://lindasog.com Lindasog is a member here, although she mainly lurks.

There's also Frontpage Magazine -- http://www.frontpagemag.com

This is David Horowitz's web site. Horowitz used to be a far lefty who has now shifted to the right. He also has a website called Discover The Networks -- http://www.discoverthenetworks.org

This site contains background on all the left wing groups and individuals.

Hope that helps.

MarZutra · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2008, 10:07:24 PM »

Quote from: beppe74 on July 07, 2008, 03:40:37 PM

I live in the UK but I'm a strong supporter of Israel.
I need help.
I'm a nationalist but at the same time I support Israel and Jewish so you must help me with that.
In Europe there is the problem of muslim integralism and one consequence is the rise of antisemitism so why some jewish organization keep promoting mass immigration including immigration from muslim countries?
Please don't be offended but you have to understand I am a bit confused.
I've laways believed there are several kind of jewish and many powerful one are overwhelming liberal and leftwinger.
Please help me to understand and Please,please,forgive me if i offended you because what I want is only to know more about this.
I really hope i will not kicked out from the forum.
Please accept my apoligise if someone will be offended.

Welcome. Firstly "Multiculturalism" is a Socialist/Communalist scam...period, end, full stop! Think of it this way. If there is a continual flow of urine into your coffee pot, will it continue to taste like coffee?

These are "Jewish" Organizations, not Jewish. If you should have any specific questions please feel free to PM me and I'll do what I can...

Lisa · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2008, 10:27:07 PM »

Another great Jewish blogger is Debbie Schlussel -- http://www.debbieschlussel.com

There's also an organization called Jews For the Preservation Of Firearms Ownership -- http://www.jpfo.org

Sparky · « **Reply #18 on:** July 30, 2008, 06:01:28 PM »

"why some jewish organization keep promoting mass immigration"

Because of the discrimination and brutality against Jews during the Diaspora, it benefited the Jews to be able to emigrate and immigrate freely. Jews support free and open borders for their own survival. Add to this Jews supporting multiculturalism, since being the only minority in a population is undesirable, and you get this promotion of mass immigration. I think when the anti-Semitism from the Muslims gets bad enough, however, Jews will start to rethink things.

MarZutra · « **Reply #19 on:** July 30, 2008, 06:08:49 PM »

Quote from: Sparky on July 30, 2008, 06:01:28 PM

"why some jewish organization keep promoting mass immigration"

Because of the discrimination and brutality against Jews during the Diaspora, it benefited the Jews to be able to emigrate and immigrate freely. Jews support free and open borders for their own survival. Add to this Jews supporting multiculturalism, since being the only minority in a population is undesirable, and you get this promotion of mass immigration. I think when the anti-Semitism from the Muslims gets bad enough, however, Jews will start to rethink things.

Everything you've stated is the voice of the Noam Chomsky-ite and not the Jew.

Sparky · « **Reply #20 on:** August 03, 2008, 04:38:24 PM »

Quote from: MarZutra on July 30, 2008, 06:08:49 PM

Quote from: Sparky on July 30, 2008, 06:01:28 PM
"why some jewish organization keep promoting mass immigration"

Because of the discrimination and brutality against Jews during the Diaspora, it benefited the Jews to be able to emigrate and immigrate freely. Jews support free and open borders for their own survival. Add to this Jews supporting multiculturalism, since being the only minority in a population is undesirable, and you get this promotion of mass immigration. I think when the anti-Semitism from the Muslims gets bad enough, however, Jews will start to rethink things.
Everything you've stated is the voice of the Noam Chomsky-ite and not the Jew.

First explain to me how what I said has anything to do with Judenrat Noam Chomsky. Then give me a better explanation as to why so many Jews support open borders and immigration as this new member of JTF asked. My explanation seems to make some sense but if you have a better explanation, please share it rather than just criticize.

MarZutra · « **Reply #21 on:** August 03, 2008, 08:22:40 PM »

First explain to me how what I said has anything to do with Judenrat Noam Chomsky. What you discribe is the mindset or the ineptitude of the Socialist mind and not necessarily "Jewish"....actually, not at all Jewish.Then give me a better explanation as to why so many Jews support open borders and immigration as this new member of JTF asked. What you are discribing is applicable to the Jimmy Carters, Obamas, Palosis, Kennedys etc. It has nothing to do with one being Jewish it is the individuals embracement of this "enlightened" globalist ineptitude. Many Jews are in fact anti-immigration and all that rubbish but one will never see it due to the numerous and totally controlled Establisment mediums....especially that of the mainstream media.My explanation seems to make some sense but if you have a better explanation, please share it rather than just criticize.No your explanations are logical as it relates to the 1940's Jew wanting freedom from the Nazis and to live a peaceful life. If you research the years of German/European "enlightenment" or "emancipation" etc. you will find many Jews embracing this anti-Jew/anti-religion purely academic Neo-Platonist view. Largely their throwing off everything of their "jewishness" has to do with 1500 years of continual persecution as a minority wishing to be left alone and live their lives..... Examples comparable to the massacre of the Jews in 1190 at Cliffords Tower in York, England are littered throughout Europe simply for their religious convictions.... Should you have any direct questions feel free to pm me.

muslimslayer0075995 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 06, 2008, 01:43:18 PM »

welcome

cloudberry · « **Reply #23 on:** August 10, 2008, 06:55:24 AM »

Welcome beppe!

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In Europe there is the problem of muslim integralism and one consequence is the rise of antisemitism so why some jewish organization keep promoting mass immigration including immigration from muslim countries?

I honestly don't get it myself. As far as I can tell, it's people with suicidal tendencies.

indian · « **Reply #24 on:** August 13, 2008, 08:06:13 PM »

Zelhar !! Your views sounding more interesting. I am seeing lot of genius people here. Muslims should be thrown out of Europe. They have no right to impose sharia law in a civilized society like Europe.