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Offline nikmatdam

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orthodox jewish atty general to take the rap...
« on: July 16, 2008, 07:59:27 PM »
i now no why he was given the job by bush... just like a jew libby took the fall for cheney... now in the congressional hearings into this criminal act by bush and cheney... an orth. jew is going to be held in contempt of congress bec. bush decl. exec. priv. today... they always set up a jew to suffer for their crimes ag. humanity... text to follow... and a jew... waxman... no less will make his fellow yid go down for the fall... and pay for bush's crimes... nik.

Bush claims privilege to withhold CIA leak records
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
19 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush invoked executive privilege to keep Congress from seeing the FBI report of an interview with Vice President Dick Cheney and other records related to the administration's leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity in 2003.

The president's decision drew a sharp protest Wednesday from Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of House Oversight Committee, which had subpoenaed Attorney General Michael Mukasey to turn over the documents.

"This unfounded assertion of executive privilege does not protect a principle; it protects a person," the California Democrat said. "If the vice president did nothing wrong, what is there to hide?"

Waxman left little doubt he would soon move for a committee vote to hold Mukasey in contempt of Congress.

Bush's assertion of privilege prevented Mukasey from complying with the House subpoena for records bearing on the unmasking of Plame at a time that the administration was trying to rebut criticism from her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, of Bush's rationale for going to war in Iraq.

Cheney's chief of staff in 2003, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was later convicted of perjury, obstruction and lying to the FBI about his role in leaking Plame's name and CIA affiliation to a reporter. Last July, Bush commuted Libby's 2 1/2-year sentence, sparing him from serving prison time.

In grand jury testimony played at his trial, Libby acknowledged he told the FBI early in the Plame probe that "it's possible" he spoke to Cheney about whether to share information with reporters about Wilson's wife.

Other records sought by the House committee include notes about Bush's 2003 State of the Union address, during which he made the case for invading Iraq in part by saying Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was pursuing uranium ore in Africa to make a nuclear weapon. In the spring of 2003, Wilson claimed publicly that he had gone to Africa for the CIA to investigate the report and advised the administration it was false months before Bush cited it in the State of the Union speech.

Waxman held off an immediate contempt citation of Mukasey, but only as a courtesy to lawmakers not present Wednesday and to give all members a chance to read up on the matter. He made clear that he thinks Mukasey, who requested that Bush invoke executive privilege to shield the records, has earned a contempt citation.

"We'll act in the reasonable and appropriate period of time," Waxman said.

In a Tuesday letter to Bush, Mukasey said the assertion of the privilege would not be about hiding anything but rather protecting the separation of powers as well as the integrity of future Justice Department investigations of the White House. Several of the subpoenaed reports, Mukasey wrote, summarize conversations between Bush and advisers.

"I am greatly concerned about the chilling effect that compliance with the committee's subpoena would have on future White House deliberations and White House cooperation with future Justice Department investigations," Mukasey wrote Bush. "I believe it is legally permissible for you to assert executive privilege with respect to the subpoenaed documents, and I respectfully request that you do so."

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote to Mukasey later Wednesday suggesting that the attorney general should have recused himself from the dispute because he is the subject of the subpoena and he gave Bush advice about it.

White House spokesman Tony Fratto said Bush invoked the privilege on Tuesday.

The Bush administration had plenty of warning. Waxman said last week that he would cite Mukasey for contempt unless the attorney general complied with the subpoena. The House Judiciary Committee also has subpoenaed some of the same documents from Mukasey, as well as information on the leak from other current and former administration officials.

Congressional Democrats want to shed light on the precise roles, if any, that Bush, Cheney and their aides may have played in the leak.

State Department official Richard Armitage first revealed Plame's identity as a CIA operative to columnist Robert Novak, who used former presidential counselor Karl Rove as a confirming source for a 2003 article.



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Re: orthodox jewish atty general to take the rap...
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 08:45:42 PM »
Interesting. 

You know how Chaim feels about Jews holding political positions in the Galut. 

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Re: orthodox jewish atty general to take the rap...
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 08:50:47 PM »
i've heard... nik.
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Re: orthodox jewish atty general to take the rap...
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 12:07:44 AM »
Shalom,

Here are some relevant quotes from Pirkie Avot:

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1:10. Shmaayah and Avtalyon received from them. Shmaayah would say: Love work, loath mastery over others, and avoid intimacy with the government.

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2:3.Be careful with the government, for they befriend a person only for their own needs. They appear to be friends when it is beneficial to them, but they do not stand by a person at the time of his distress.

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3:2. Rabbi Chanina, deputy to the kohanim, would say: Pray for the integrity of the government; for were it not for the fear of its authority, a man would swallow his neighbor alive.

And one not so relevant, but relevant in another way:

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1:17. His son, Shimon, would say: All my life I have been raised among the wise, and I have found nothing better for the body than silence. The essential thing is not study, but deed. And one who speaks excessively brings on sin.

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Re: orthodox jewish atty general to take the rap...
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 07:29:46 AM »
Some liberal Jews have criticized Bush Jr. for not appointing more Jews to positions.  They're crazy. 

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Re: orthodox jewish atty general to take the rap...
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 08:55:13 AM »
Nik,
 I saw Bernarkes face this am. I SAW IT. YES, he IS taking the rap for ALL OF THIS. HOW CONVENIENT. >:(
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