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The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« on: September 07, 2008, 10:17:52 AM »
I no longer use the world liberal to describe the democrats...they are socialists.  A real liberal by the real definition of one, is open minded.  So I'm making a clarification here. We all realize that McCain is what a liberal was 25 years ago...so he is a liberal...not a conservative..and the so-called liberals of today are socialists.

Now, these socialists and socialist media are desperate.  we they can't find anything decent to attack a someone who disagrees with them, they smear them...all of you realize this about the other side.  When they get desperate, they fight dirty...hold your ground knowing that don't fear them.

I predict, assuming there is no set-back, that the republicans will win by a landslide...and there will be no riot in the large proportions you guys speak of.  It will be a new day and this time we'll have a chance to get back on our feet and continue fighting for the causes that JTF believes is right for Israel and the USA.
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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 01:39:25 PM »
you might find this article interesting.
http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=2#more-2

from JTF's standpoint melanie phillips is very left wing.  (though she does tkae on islamism e.g. her book londonistan).

The article talks about the shift of the left.. and liberalism over the years. It seems related to your post.

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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 01:47:35 PM »
the media is filled with snakes who are in a panic stage
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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 02:46:31 PM »
I no longer use the world liberal to describe the democrats...they are socialists.  A real liberal by the real definition of one, is open minded.  So I'm making a clarification here. We all realize that McCain is what a liberal was 25 years ago...so he is a liberal...not a conservative..and the so-called liberals of today are socialists.

Now, these socialists and socialist media are desperate.  we they can't find anything decent to attack a someone who disagrees with them, they smear them...all of you realize this about the other side.  When they get desperate, they fight dirty...hold your ground knowing that don't fear them.

I predict, assuming there is no set-back, that the republicans will win by a landslide...and there will be no riot in the large proportions you guys speak of.  It will be a new day and this time we'll have a chance to get back on our feet and continue fighting for the causes that JTF believes is right for Israel and the USA.

Hello Dr. Dan, that is such a wonderful post and hopeful too, I like the part where you predict we Republicans win by a landslide. G-d willing that happens!


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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 03:02:19 PM »
I no longer use the world liberal to describe the democrats...they are socialists.  A real liberal by the real definition of one, is open minded.  So I'm making a clarification here. We all realize that McCain is what a liberal was 25 years ago...so he is a liberal...not a conservative..and the so-called liberals of today are socialists.

Now, these socialists and socialist media are desperate.  we they can't find anything decent to attack a someone who disagrees with them, they smear them...all of you realize this about the other side.  When they get desperate, they fight dirty...hold your ground knowing that don't fear them.

I predict, assuming there is no set-back, that the republicans will win by a landslide...and there will be no riot in the large proportions you guys speak of.  It will be a new day and this time we'll have a chance to get back on our feet and continue fighting for the causes that JTF believes is right for Israel and the USA.


 Dr Dan, I ABSOLUTELY agree!!! These people are NOT liberals, and todays conservative NOT conservative at all!!!!!!!!!!  SOMEONE HAS to stand UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT!!!!!! AND NOBODY IS!  People are REFUSING to stand for what is RIGHT!!! I dont know how I am going to fit into this world anymore.
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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 03:04:50 PM »
Yes Dr. Dan, I realized this too. Real liberalism is not so bad. But this leftists, that call themselve liberals are everything but liberals. It is imo a conspiracy. They try to hide their intention with a twisted language and the media is backing them.
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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2008, 03:06:31 PM »
I no longer use the world liberal to describe the democrats...they are socialists.  A real liberal by the real definition of one, is open minded.  So I'm making a clarification here. We all realize that McCain is what a liberal was 25 years ago...so he is a liberal...not a conservative..and the so-called liberals of today are socialists.

Now, these socialists and socialist media are desperate.  we they can't find anything decent to attack a someone who disagrees with them, they smear them...all of you realize this about the other side.  When they get desperate, they fight dirty...hold your ground knowing that don't fear them.

I predict, assuming there is no set-back, that the republicans will win by a landslide...and there will be no riot in the large proportions you guys speak of.  It will be a new day and this time we'll have a chance to get back on our feet and continue fighting for the causes that JTF believes is right for Israel and the USA.


 Dr Dan, I ABSOLUTELY agree!!! These people are NOT liberals, and todays conservative NOT conservative at all!!!!!!!!!!  SOMEONE HAS to stand UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT!!!!!! AND NOBODY IS!  People are REFUSING to stand for what is RIGHT!!! I dont know how I am going to fit into this world anymore.

Hi Paulette Sis, I hope everything is going well for you and yours. I feel good about this election finally! We just cannot let Obama win, especially since we all know how evil this man is. Now that Sarah Palin is on board I think we really have a great chance to defeat that Evil Muslim!
Talk to you later Paulette.


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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 04:49:20 PM »
Yes Dr. Dan, I realized this too. Real liberalism is not so bad. But this leftists, that call themselve liberals are everything but liberals. It is imo a conspiracy. They try to hide their intention with a twisted language and the media is backing them.


A true liberal is open minded and inclusive...the current left of today do not act in this manner...and I hate them for that...I like open mindedness and dialogue...and I also believe in holding your ground especially if you are a conservative.  But even conservatives can be open minded.  Socialists and communists are incapable of it...
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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 05:15:21 PM »
in that article, melanie phillips refers to those "liberal"/socialist types, as social wreckers..

an astute person I used to speak to, pointed out to me that liberals are socialists, they just don't identify themselves as socialists because it would be political suicide.


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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 05:23:31 PM »
Yes Dr. Dan, I realized this too. Real liberalism is not so bad. But this leftists, that call themselve liberals are everything but liberals. It is imo a conspiracy. They try to hide their intention with a twisted language and the media is backing them.


A true liberal is open minded and inclusive...the current left of today do not act in this manner...and I hate them for that...I like open mindedness and dialogue...and I also believe in holding your ground especially if you are a conservative.  But even conservatives can be open minded.  Socialists and communists are incapable of it...

In my oppinion real liberalism don't opposes personal conservative thoughts.  O0
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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 05:32:12 PM »
dan, here is another article by melanis phillips, fantastic.. absolutely fantastic,

and it's what you're talking about..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053331/Contempt-apathy-lies---Britain-crying-pitbull-lipstick.html


she mentions that it is a caricature to think that hope and progress presides on the left.

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It is the Left which upholds the miserable social and educational status quo which causes such misery and harm to so many at the bottom of the heap.

It is the Left which preaches despair by believing that nothing can be done to stop social ills such as crime, drug addiction or teenage pregnancy.

Instead, it sets up vast infrastructures at public expense to mitigate their worst effects  -  which has the effect of entrenching and deepening those very social ills
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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 06:06:25 PM »
dan, here is another article by melanis phillips, fantastic.. absolutely fantastic,

and it's what you're talking about..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053331/Contempt-apathy-lies---Britain-crying-pitbull-lipstick.html


she mentions that it is a caricature to think that hope and progress presides on the left.

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It is the Left which upholds the miserable social and educational status quo which causes such misery and harm to so many at the bottom of the heap.


It is the Left which preaches despair by believing that nothing can be done to stop social ills such as crime, drug addiction or teenage pregnancy.

Instead, it sets up vast infrastructures at public expense to mitigate their worst effects  -  which has the effect of entrenching and deepening those very social ills

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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 08:15:14 PM »
in that article, melanie phillips refers to those "liberal"/socialist types, as social wreckers..

an astute person I used to speak to, pointed out to me that liberals are socialists, they just don't identify themselves as socialists because it would be political suicide.



exactly and it destroys the real meaning of the word liberal.
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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 08:24:03 PM »
Left wing refers to economic socialists/commies.

Liberal refers to social issues.

Thats how i see it.

Seems like they go hand in hand alot in the US, so you get the double wammy.

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Re: The stupid media and socialists (not liberals)
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 08:43:57 PM »
So called "liberals" are the most stubborn CLOSE MINDED people who you will ever meet. Kind of defeats the purpose.
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2008, 10:42:20 PM »
Well, you know the whole issue of liberalism as "left" and conservatism as "right" is not entirely accurate.  I think that I used to be a liberal, and I haven't changed so much as the political landscape has changed.  What used to be liberal philosophies are now considered right wing or centrist.  Those who identify themselves as being on the left are what we would have considered to be the ultra left years ago.

 I thnik that the political spectrum is more circular than linear.  There is still ultra left and ultra right.  The ultra left is communism and the ultra right is fascism.  That is how people normally believe in political positioning.  What I mean by circular is that when you get more left than communism, you get fascism, which is where I see many people who identify themselves as being on the left today.  They don't tolerate discussion.  They don't tolerate any ideas which are dangerous to their doctrine.  But they claim to be for tolerance!  They are the ultimate example of 1984; doublethink, newspeak, ingsoc, and the like.

There was a time I was proud to call myself a liberal.  I was reacting to what I considered to be rightist fascism.  But like I've said, I still pretty much believe in the same things, (with a few exceptions, of course), so why would the left label me as a fascist?

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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2008, 11:41:31 PM »
Yes Dr. Dan, I realized this too. Real liberalism is not so bad. But this leftists, that call themselve liberals are everything but liberals. It is imo a conspiracy. They try to hide their intention with a twisted language and the media is backing them.


A true liberal is open minded and inclusive...the current left of today do not act in this manner...and I hate them for that...I like open mindedness and dialogue...and I also believe in holding your ground especially if you are a conservative.  But even conservatives can be open minded.  Socialists and communists are incapable of it...

Communists are programmed to be control freaks.