Nazi Buchanus (ys"vz): Jews Responsible for Financial Crisis

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

No, I don't think that any U.S. soldier who kills the Nazi enemy should be executed for doing such. As for the particulars of what he was accused of, if you had paid a little more attention to that thread, you'd see that I wrote that any soldier who is that mentally compromised by PTSD should be institutionalized, but I suspect that you did and didn't want to acknowledge that. In any event, the man you work so hard to defend (Pat Buchanan) spent a lot of time of his own defending proven Nazi war criminals like John Demjanjuk ("Ivan the Terrible", an SS guard at the Sobibor extermination center) and Arthur Rudolph. Isn't it hypocritical of you to argue that a U.S. soldier who had a complete mental breakdown on the battlefield and was accused of killing ENEMY SYMPATHIZERS should be executed, while supporting an infamous anti-Semite who defended REAL war criminals--the most vile and satanic human beings who ever walked the face of the earth?

[muman613]

Shalom,

Stop this bickering please...

C.F. I do think you are wrong in your position regarding this criminal soldier who raped and murdered a girl and her family. It was patently wrong and criminal. There is no excuse as you are trying to make. This man commited a serious and capital offense and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The claim that he was mentally incapacitated is not born out by the facts as this was a premeditated murder.

I dont like Buchanan but I dont think it is worth it to make a big deal about this topic. Goldman Sachs has made a big mistake and should be rebuked for their financial disaster. I certainly understand your sensitivity but things like this are difficult to prove by the evidence.

I will once again ask you, C.F. to reserve such terrible curses for the most deserving and not every person who does evil.

muman613

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Muman, we agreed to disagree on the former issue, pending whether Iraqis who aren't actual combatants, but merely support combatants, qualify as Amalek. I thought that they did; you weren't sure. Let's continue to agree to disagree. I brought this up because t_h_j said in that thread that he didn't want to stick around here. Sorry if it caused you distress.

Anyhow, of the Buchanan issue, I am quite sure that it's acceptable to curse him. Chaim himself curses him many times per week in Ask JTF. You can disagree with that, I suppose, but that is why I curse him.

Chaimfan.

[George]

Shalom,

Stop this bickering please...

C.F. I do think you are wrong in your position regarding this criminal soldier who raped and murdered a girl and her family. It was patently wrong and criminal. There is no excuse as you are trying to make. This man commited a serious and capital offense and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The claim that he was mentally incapacitated is not born out by the facts as this was a premeditated murder.

I dont like Buchanan but I dont think it is worth it to make a big deal about this topic. Goldman Sachs has made a big mistake and should be rebuked for their financial disaster. I certainly understand your sensitivity but things like this are difficult to prove by the evidence.

I will once again ask you, C.F. to reserve such terrible curses for the most deserving and not every person who does evil.

muman613

The soldier should be punished but not executed. There was recently a Nigerian ape wearing the us military uniform who murdered an elderly Japanese cab driver because he couldn't pay the fare. He won't get the death penalty so this guy shouldn't either. I don't think the Iraqi family deserved to die even if it's proven they aided the insurgents because it's possible Al-Qaeda threatened them that if they didn't assist them they would be executed. This is a common tactic that Al-Qaeda uses. What do you think?

[muman613]

<snip>
Anyhow, of the Buchanan issue, I am quite sure that it's acceptable to curse him. Chaim himself curses him many times per week in Ask JTF. You can disagree with that, I suppose, but that is why I curse him.

Chaimfan.

CF,

Here is a list of Rabbi Nachmans sayings concerning Cursing:

http://www.breslov.org/torah/rabbeinu/alef_bet/midos19.html#k'lalah

CURSING

  A

1)
    Cursing brings to mourning, God forbid.

2)
    A person may not curse another unless he can forsee the future generations of the one he curses.

3)
    The curse of an ordinary man should not be taken lightly.

4)
    It is the intention behind the curse that matters.

5)
    There are times when a Tzaddik's curse lasts only as long as he's alive and no longer has any effect once he's died.

6)
    An undeserved curse eventually turns back on the curser.

7)
    The wise man's curse, even if undeserved or conditional, takes effect.

8 )
    Even the gentile who blesses a Jew will be blessed.

    B

1)
    A person who is always cursing comes from the World of Void, while the person who is wont to bless is from the World of Rectification.

2)
    Investigating the world of emptiness - namely, what is above and below, what preceded this world and what follows it - brings a curse. The person who guards against such investigation brings about a blessing.

3)
    A person who is accustomed to cursing will not have clothing for the Shabbat.

4)
    A curse has no effect on a person of distinguished ancestry.

5)
    Tending to the needs of the Tzaddik brings freedom and nullifies curses.

6)
    Conducting one's business affairs faithfully nullifies curses.

7)
    When a person curses his friend during a time of panic, the curse proves very damaging.


Regarding the fairness of the imposition of the death penalty, it is a difficult call. In general I support the death penalty for barbarous murders. What this means is premeditated and hateful murder. For instance I believed that OJ Simpson should have gotten the death penalty for killing his ex-wife and the Goldman man.

As I said I dont really know the facts in this case and because of this I can only have an opinion based on what I have read. From what I read it seemed like the accused had targeted this young girl and followed her to her home to commit sordid acts and to ultimately kill her family.

Good morning,

muman613

[Dr. Dan]

<snip>
Anyhow, of the Buchanan issue, I am quite sure that it's acceptable to curse him. Chaim himself curses him many times per week in Ask JTF. You can disagree with that, I suppose, but that is why I curse him.

Chaimfan.

CF,

Here is a list of Rabbi Nachmans sayings concerning Cursing:

http://www.breslov.org/torah/rabbeinu/alef_bet/midos19.html#k'lalah

CURSING

  A

1)
    Cursing brings to mourning, G-d forbid.

2)
    A person may not curse another unless he can forsee the future generations of the one he curses.

3)
    The curse of an ordinary man should not be taken lightly.

4)
    It is the intention behind the curse that matters.

5)
    There are times when a Tzaddik's curse lasts only as long as he's alive and no longer has any effect once he's died.

6)
    An undeserved curse eventually turns back on the curser.

7)
    The wise man's curse, even if undeserved or conditional, takes effect.

8 )
    Even the gentile who blesses a Jew will be blessed.

    B

1)
    A person who is always cursing comes from the World of Void, while the person who is wont to bless is from the World of Rectification.

2)
    Investigating the world of emptiness - namely, what is above and below, what preceded this world and what follows it - brings a curse. The person who guards against such investigation brings about a blessing.

3)
    A person who is accustomed to cursing will not have clothing for the Shabbat.

4)
    A curse has no effect on a person of distinguished ancestry.

5)
    Tending to the needs of the Tzaddik brings freedom and nullifies curses.

6)
    Conducting one's business affairs faithfully nullifies curses.

7)
    When a person curses his friend during a time of panic, the curse proves very damaging.


Regarding the fairness of the imposition of the death penalty, it is a difficult call. In general I support the death penalty for barbarous murders. What this means is premeditated and hateful murder. For instance I believed that OJ Simpson should have gotten the death penalty for killing his ex-wife and the Goldman man.

As I said I dont really know the facts in this case and because of this I can only have an opinion based on what I have read. From what I read it seemed like the accused had targeted this young girl and followed her to her home to commit sordid acts and to ultimately kill her family.

Good morning,

muman613

I think I  better give some tzedaka right now...that was good stuff...

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Muman: I voiced the opinion that I did because I know it's very possible for warfare to completely derange and destroy people mentally. We all know about My Lai. There have been NUMEROUS cases of Iraqi vets coming back not the same upstairs, sinking into a downward spiral, and ending up killing themselves and/or others. There was a recent case in San Clemente, CA (south Orange County) of a mentally-ill PTSD returning soldier who actually beat his live-in girlfriend to death with a hammer. (I realize that all of this, and bringing up that old thread to begin with, was a big tangent for this thread, but I wanted to show where t_h_j was a liar.)

Everybody: I am not out to claim that Goldman Sachs is innocent of crooked and greedy loans, and doesn't bear some responsibility for the financial crisis. All of the big banks/investment firms are up to their eyeballs in bad loans. What I was pointing out is that when GS is singled out as a corporate crook, and mentioned far and above more than any other financial institution, it's clearly anti-Semitism. GS is the only major Jewish-owned investment bank on Wall Street in a very WASP-dominated field. But people single them out because of their obvious Jewish-sounding name and because there will always be a sleazy underbelly of Jew-stereotyping in this and all other nations (i.e. the idea that Jews control all the banks, that there is a secret Jewish clique of economic power, etc.). We all know what Buchanan is trying to do here, which is to blame-the-Jew yet once more. That's the only thing that that Nazi knows how to do.

t_h_j: I have a very hard time believing you are a legitimate poster at all. Every time you post it is to mock or scoff at a JTF position. I didn't actually think I would see you defend Pat Buchanan, though. It's fine that there are critics and skeptics on this forum, but I think you just revealed your true colors to everybody here.

[t_h_j]

Muman: I voiced the opinion that I did because I know it's very possible for warfare to completely derange and destroy people mentally. We all know about My Lai. There have been NUMEROUS cases of Iraqi vets coming back not the same upstairs, sinking into a downward spiral, and ending up killing themselves and/or others. There was a recent case in San Clemente, CA (south Orange County) of a mentally-ill PTSD returning soldier who actually beat his live-in girlfriend to death with a hammer. (I realize that all of this, and bringing up that old thread to begin with, was a big tangent for this thread, but I wanted to show where t_h_j was a liar.)

Everybody: I am not out to claim that Goldman Sachs is innocent of crooked and greedy loans, and doesn't bear some responsibility for the financial crisis. All of the big banks/investment firms are up to their eyeballs in bad loans. What I was pointing out is that when GS is singled out as a corporate crook, and mentioned far and above more than any other financial institution, it's clearly anti-Semitism. GS is the only major Jewish-owned investment bank on Wall Street in a very WASP-dominated field. But people single them out because of their obvious Jewish-sounding name and because there will always be a sleazy underbelly of Jew-stereotyping in this and all other nations (i.e. the idea that Jews control all the banks, that there is a secret Jewish clique of economic power, etc.). We all know what Buchanan is trying to do here, which is to blame-the-Jew yet once more. That's the only thing that that Nazi knows how to do.

t_h_j: I have a very hard time believing you are a legitimate poster at all. Every time you post it is to mock or scoff at a JTF position. I didn't actually think I would see you defend Pat Buchanan, though. It's fine that there are critics and skeptics on this forum, but I think you just revealed your true colors to everybody here.

yawn... once again you lie.

btw, Sachs isn't "jewish owned", unless you somehow think that all of the stockholders who own shares of it are jews.  Its a public company.

[briann]

BTW... Im so sick of Fag Buchanan.  Lets stop even mentioning that irrelevant old fossil.

Brian

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I am sick of that Nazi faggot too, but sadly every newspaper in the world, it seems, carries his pornographic "columns" a couple times a week. I just thought JTFers should be aware of Buchanus' most recent Jew-baiting. Yimach schmo to this faggot Hitlerite.