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Paying women to have tubes tied.
Dan:
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--- Quote from: ProJewChristian on September 27, 2008, 11:28:55 PM ---The only thing that makes me WANT to support this is the Illegal Alien crisis.
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Um..... they can't collect welfare. ???
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So let's add another provision... All Illegal aliens will have they're tubes tied as well! or get out!
Lubab:
What you guys fail to understand is the slippery slope involved here. There is a massive (and false) educational campaign underway, funded by some very wealthy and evil families in this country to convince us all that we're overpopularted...which we are NOT by any stretch of the imagination...I will say it again...we could COMFORTABLY FIT EVERYONE ALIVE TODAY AND EVERYONE WHO EVER LIVED...the problem is not overpopulation, it is population CONCENTRATION. Most of California is empty. Most of Russia is empty. Most of America is empty. People just seem to think that if they can't see the land from their favorite highway then it doesn't exist. Well your highway only lets you see the tip of the fingernail of the land that exists in your state or your country.
First it's legalized aboration. Then it's incentivized tube tying. Next it's a one child policy...as they already have in China.
You may not like what third worlders are doing to this country, but TRUST ME, this is not the solution you want. It's not JTF's solution at all. JTF's solutions is economic incentives for the folks to leave. Not to encourage this anti-Torah and anti-life procedure and the more extreme measures that will follow.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
I hope that you guys are not saying that everyone who would desire to have their tubes tied is Amalek.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: C.F. on September 26, 2008, 11:49:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Lubab on September 26, 2008, 11:41:58 AM ---Planned Parenthood is with you on this one C.F. It is a euphemistic form of genocide. Read your Bible. Amram was punished for being even "worse than Pharoh" because he chose not to have children, which prevented both girls and boys from being bought into the world.
This plan is completely anti-Torah and anti-life. JTF should oppose it strongly.
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1: Planned Parenthood doesn't want voluntary sterilization--they want mass, government-subsidized infanticide.
2: I don't have to agree with every single thing Chaim supports, and he doesn't have to agree with everything that I do. Nobody here sees 100% eye-to-eye with JTF, not even Chaimfan. Chaim doesn't require total assent, either.
3: There was a specific time and context to that. The passage is talking about the survival of the Jewish people at the time of the Pharaoh's genocide. Amram did not want to bring children into a world of the Pharaoh's brutality--his sin was cowardice and caving-in to what Pharaoh wanted, not contraception in the modern sense.
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C.F.
They are sewn from the same cloth. Look into the groups that are funding PP and look into the groups that are funding the forced sterilizationa and these tube ties. It's the same usual suspects, it's Merk, it's the Melinda and Gates Foundation, it's the Rockellers the Rothchilds and all the other anti-semitic fascist supporters that have been experimenting with eugenics and mass extermination for centuries. It's all drawn from an overiding philosophy that is the same one held by those who helped fund the holocoust.
You don't want to go down this road. Some of the most evil people in history are the ones who want this.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: C.F. on September 28, 2008, 01:42:53 PM ---I hope that you guys are not saying that everyone who would desire to have their tubes tied is Amalek.
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You should know C.F. that there is a concept in the Torah of stopping having children if the quality of life would suffer. But permanent disabling of the reproductive system is NOT AN OPTION, NOT ALLOWED.
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