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Haredim being used as drug mules
Shamgar:
Drug people that intimidate and delude innocents into doing there dirty work are extremely intelligent and masters at thier game. They will make you think that you are on a mission for God to save the world, and in reality you are a mule for thier empire.
People in these drug empires should go straight to Hell and burn for eternity. They ruin thousands of innocent lives every year and that is not counting the actual end users!!!
Mifletzet:
--- Quote from: Chaim Ben Pesach on October 02, 2008, 09:02:02 AM --- בס''ד
This is a disgusting anti-Semitic thread. 99.99% of Charedim are not in any way involved with this. I spent five and a half years in prison and met thousands of drug dealers. Not one was a Charedi Jew.
--- End quote ---
This is a very recent phenomenon, long after you did your stretch, and hopefully after the few draconian sentences, it'll be over, as no one wises up and gets more scared quicker than the frum!
Cocaine was implicated in the recent fatal crash of well known British philanthropist Rabbi BZ Dunner
http://www.thejc.com/node/3808
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041830/Gods-postman-gave-away-millions-snorted-cocaine-died-80mph-Bentley-crash.html
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
People beware of this anti-semite Mifletzet. he/she hasn't done this for the first time. Time and again, it has written nagative threads agains't religious Jews (purposly to defame them), has written false accusations of Halacha (stating that Halacha allows the raping of women, as long as the male wants it- which is not true, but another attempt at making fun and defaming Judasim and religious).
q_q_:
Mr Dunner is most probably NOT a rabbi. (There are alot of rabbi dunners, but they are titled as Rabbi).
The charedi press never referred to him as rabbi. It's likely that the secular press think that anybody with a black hat is a rabbi.
He did do alot of charity work, and for that was well respected.
The story afterwards, that he had cocaine in his system, was a big suprise to everybody.
These charedim don't even have television sets. So drug problems are rare, it's hard to imagine where the source of a drug problem could be, so it's just a weird story..
I have heard in the past of Charedim being used to transfer drugs around, but that is most probably naiivity. There are some that are very astute, but it's only natural that in a culture that spurns the outside world, you would have many that don't know what recreational drugs are. Or even what recreation is!
Infact, I know a family that dropped out of that world. Children became modern orthodox. One of them was jogging along in a kippa. He jogged past 2 charedi kids. One said to the other "is he jewish?" (in yiddish) .
The other responded(in yiddish) "yes, but not like us". Clever kid.. Thing is, different world.
What is interesting, is mifletzet has merged 2 stories here.
The drug mule story, (where he went along with the idea that some are just naiive)
and the Mr Dunner cannabis story. (which is clearly not naivity)
So he merges it to one big drugs problem.. Which is not the case.. But clearly he just wants to besmirch the entire charedi society.
Mifletzet:
Rav Kahane said that "The Haredim are irrelevant!".
And we see his words being born out.
The Haredi numbers are burgeoning. But their influence on events is actually dwindling! A sure sign of Hashem's disfavour. Most will not stand at the Geulah!
Dunner had semicha, according to his obituary, and was a huge baal tzedakah.
He would write out very generous cheques to the 1000s who queued for hours outside his home.
Yet I am sure that if Chaim, Yekusiel, Lenny or David, when their turn would come, and he would ask for which mosad they were collecting for, and they would mention the name "Kahane" or "Kach", them davka he would not give to!
Such is the still persisting antipathy & allergy in the Haredi world for anything to do with the blinding Torah truth of Rabbi Meir Kahane: although Haredim believe in Hashem & keep the mitzvos, they are still exceedingly far, if not opposed to the emess, lo aleinu!
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