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please need some help with the Torah/Bible
Yonathan Ben Yakov:
i got to write an essay compare & contrast Itzhak-Ismael & Yaakov-Esof
muman613:
--- Quote from: Yonathan Ben Yakov on October 15, 2008, 08:46:17 PM ---i got to write an essay compare & contrast Itzhak-Ismael & Yaakov-Esof
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Yonathan,
I will just inform you that from Torah perspective that these brothers represent the Jewish vs the Non-Jewish world.
Yitzak is a patriarch of the Jewish people while Ishmael is the patriarch of the Arab nations.
Yaakov is the patriarch of the Jewish people while Essau is the patriarch of the Edomite nations {Roman}.
Maybe you already realized this... If not you can use this as a starting point for your research.
muman613
zachor_ve_kavod:
Also, Isaac was the favorite to Abraham, and Jacob was the favorite to Isaac. Although, Jacob did steal Esau's birthright. It's a complicated essay. What are you planning to focus on?
Yonathan Ben Yakov:
thanks guys but i need to write a 3 page essay comparing both sets of brothers
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--- Quote from: zachor_ve_kavod on October 15, 2008, 09:06:06 PM ---Also, Isaac was the favorite to Abraham, and Jacob was the favorite to Isaac.
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actually the text suggests that Avraham cared alot for Yishmael, and Isaac. And G-d told him to send Yishmael away. G-d told him that his seed would continue through Isaac. Yitzchak's mother Sarai, naturally favoured Yitzchak. Avraham when he sent Ishmael away, was - I vaguely recall - reluctant, but G-d told him to listen to his wife.
the text does not suggest that avraham had a favourite. What is your evidence from the text that suggests he did?
Regarding Jacob
Jacob was not Isaac's favourite. If Isaac had a favourite, the text suggests that he favoured Esau. It was Isaac's wife Rivka that favoured Jacob, and had to fool Isaac into giving Jacob the better blessing.
So you certainly have it backwards there.
The text if it suggests that Isaac had a favourite, certainly suggests Esau was the favourite, not Jacob.
So I would say we see a similarity there. In that the wife favoured the son that would become father of the jewish people.
Also, it's not esaf!!!!! not in english or hebrew ESAV or perhaps ESAV/ESAW. OR Esau in english.
The F, is like saying Taf instead of Tav or Taw. Because W/V/F can become confused. W/V may have become confused. But let's not add F to the mix. I think some do say Taf but I doubt they claim that is correct.. It's certainly not esaf!!!
The reason these accidents can happen is because the letter is formed from the same part of the mouth.
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