Should JTF go back to the old ways?

[muman613]

I voted "no".

The question you must ask yourself is: am I a part of JTF for my own entertainment or to save American and Israel. We have a much better chance of saving both with the way the shows are done now and that's all I really care about.

Shalom Lubab,

I haven't heard from you in a while. I hope things are well by you...

muman613

[Shlomo]

I voted "no".

The question you must ask yourself is: am I a part of JTF for my own entertainment or to save American and Israel. We have a much better chance of saving both with the way the shows are done now and that's all I really care about.

Well said, Rabbi.

[DownwithIslam]

I voted "no".

The question you must ask yourself is: am I a part of JTF for my own entertainment or to save American and Israel. We have a much better chance of saving both with the way the shows are done now and that's all I really care about.

Well said, Rabbi.

See, I am so torn on this. I agree with Scriabin that the old shows were more entertaining and that they are sorely missed, but Lubab's post highlights some serious realities as well.

[Scriabin]

I voted "no".
The question you must ask yourself is: am I a part of JTF for my own entertainment or to save American and Israel. We have a much better chance of saving both with the way the shows are done now and that's all I really care about.

Well said, Rabbi.

So, you're in favor of doing away with "Take Back America"?

Do you prefer the Israel-only agenda?

[AsheDina]

 People would NOT even KNOW that barack obama had the middle name of HUSSEIN if it were not for Chaim ben Pesach. 
I AGREE with the Rabbi- But PLEASE- PLEASE- my G-d, cant you ALL see that this is NOT what it was???
Or am I SCREAMING at the walls as USUAL? OR POSTS getting Removed or just IGNORED.
 GO BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE DOING FOR HEAVENS SAKES, the NUMBERS SHOW exactly what is going on!
  NOTHING is going on THIS side of the FORUM.
 Take DOWN the "Save America" if you are NOT for fighting for the USA- b/c if you ARE, THIS....................................is LAUGHABLE.
 And Americans, Jew AND Christian are DEVASTATED that did NOT support this SOB Hussein.  COME ON!

[P J C]

This really is a very dynamic post.

[Shlomo]

So, you're in favor of doing away with "Take Back America"?

Do you prefer the Israel-only agenda?

When did I ever say such a thing? Of course we are fighting for America and our numbers have never been higher. We don't invest our time here just to play around and waste money, development, server space, and time. JTF's message has never changed.

Scriabin, I have information that you do not have as to what's being planned for the future and I am very excited. Your thread is going to get you no where and you are making a fool of yourself and causing needless disunity. I have talked to Chaim about this thread already and you are wasting your time. I wish I could say more but we have many enemies. You'll just have to be patient.

[Scriabin]

So, you're in favor of doing away with "Take Back America"?

Do you prefer the Israel-only agenda?

When did I ever say such a thing? Of course we are fighting for America and our numbers have never been higher. We don't invest our time here just to play around and waste money, development, server space, and time. JTF's message has never changed.

Scriabin, I have information that you do not have as to what's being planned for the future and I am very excited. Your thread is going to get you no where and you are making a fool of yourself and causing needless disunity. I have talked to Chaim about this thread already and you are wasting your time. I wish I could say more but we have many enemies. You'll just have to be patient.

I'm not wasting my time if most people agree with me.

[P J C]

So, you're in favor of doing away with "Take Back America"?

Do you prefer the Israel-only agenda?

When did I ever say such a thing? Of course we are fighting for America and our numbers have never been higher. We don't invest our time here just to play around and waste money, development, server space, and time. JTF's message has never changed.

Scriabin, I have information that you do not have as to what's being planned for the future and I am very excited. Your thread is going to get you no where and you are making a fool of yourself and causing needless disunity. I have talked to Chaim about this thread already and you are wasting your time. I wish I could say more but we have many enemies. You'll just have to be patient.

I'm not wasting my time if most people agree with me.

Actually more people said No then Yes, so that means most of the people agree with you. Continue to waste your time.

[Scriabin]

So, you're in favor of doing away with "Take Back America"?

Do you prefer the Israel-only agenda?

When did I ever say such a thing? Of course we are fighting for America and our numbers have never been higher. We don't invest our time here just to play around and waste money, development, server space, and time. JTF's message has never changed.

Scriabin, I have information that you do not have as to what's being planned for the future and I am very excited. Your thread is going to get you no where and you are making a fool of yourself and causing needless disunity. I have talked to Chaim about this thread already and you are wasting your time. I wish I could say more but we have many enemies. You'll just have to be patient.

I'm not wasting my time if most people agree with me.

Actually more people said No then Yes, so that means most of the people agree with you.

That's debatable.

[Scriabin]

So, you're in favor of doing away with "Take Back America"?

Do you prefer the Israel-only agenda?

When did I ever say such a thing? Of course we are fighting for America and our numbers have never been higher. We don't invest our time here just to play around and waste money, development, server space, and time. JTF's message has never changed.

Scriabin, I have information that you do not have as to what's being planned for the future and I am very excited. Your thread is going to get you no where and you are making a fool of yourself and causing needless disunity. I have talked to Chaim about this thread already and you are wasting your time. I wish I could say more but we have many enemies. You'll just have to be patient.

I'm not wasting my time if most people agree with me.

Continue to waste your time.

What do you care?

[Scriabin]

So, you're in favor of doing away with "Take Back America"?

Do you prefer the Israel-only agenda?

When did I ever say such a thing? Of course we are fighting for America and our numbers have never been higher. We don't invest our time here just to play around and waste money, development, server space, and time. JTF's message has never changed.

Scriabin, I have information that you do not have as to what's being planned for the future and I am very excited. Your thread is going to get you no where and you are making a fool of yourself and causing needless disunity. I have talked to Chaim about this thread already and you are wasting your time. I wish I could say more but we have many enemies. You'll just have to be patient.

Why are you so threatened by this thread?

[Lisa]

People!

I said this to Shlomo earlier, and I'll say it again here. 

Chaim needs to get into Israel.  So for us to help him, JTF must be morally unassailable.  That doesn't mean we have to love the Third World evil culture.  Instead, we must defend our positions using logic and facts.  Take for example the American Renaissance blog.  Now I realize many of us don't like them.  But the people there dislike Third World evil culture as much as we do.  They attribute it to low IQ.  We attribute it to freely choosing evil behavior.  If you take a look at their comments, you'll never see the N word written there, or any references made to eating watermelon, among other things. 

So if they can do it, we can too!

[P J C]

The bottom line is that JTF is JTF.

[AsheDina]

So, you're in favor of doing away with "Take Back America"?

Do you prefer the Israel-only agenda?

When did I ever say such a thing? Of course we are fighting for America and our numbers have never been higher. We don't invest our time here just to play around and waste money, development, server space, and time. JTF's message has never changed.

Scriabin, I have information that you do not have as to what's being planned for the future and I am very excited. Your thread is going to get you no where and you are making a fool of yourself and causing needless disunity. I have talked to Chaim about this thread already and you are wasting your time. I wish I could say more but we have many enemies. You'll just have to be patient.

I'm not wasting my time if most people agree with me.

 Scriabin, I am with you. 100%. You are not alone.  I suppose 1080 people that have only VIEWED this dont think it much either do they Scriabin? <EYEROLL>   It's Me and Scriabin against you all, I will stand with Scriabin the Righteous Kahanist Gentile, like I stood with the Righteous Kahanist Jews that are NO LONGER HERE. 
This..........................is very SAD.
 Lets go have our own thread somewhere on a locked Forum, on the JTF- Scriabin, and drink a strong glass of brandy like they did b4 the sinking of the Titanic.
 

[Baltimore]

JTF not caring about the USA? How odd. Why do they have this link to the G. Gordon Liddy radio show on the front of the site:
http://jtf.org/Chaim_Ben_Pesach_Radio_Interview_G_Gordon_Liddy_08-12-08.mp3

Yes, the biggest publicity JTF has received since August came via the USA based LIddy Radio show where Chaim talked about..... AMERICA!

Righteous Jews no longer on JTF? Huh? I am Jewish. Lubab is Jewish. DWI is Jewish. Takeback is Jewish. What mass Jewish exodus are you talking about?

JTF's numbers are going down? Threads and polls being altered my mystery moderators? The Titanic going down?  What planet do you guys live on? This thread is filled with baseless accusations and borderline conspiracy theories.

All of this is SO SILLY! Paulette, Scriabin, and a few others... you need to calm down and get a grip. 

[Dr. Dan]

Ok, this is getting a bit silly.


JTF is unique because it says what it says in the way that it says it.  Yes, JTF used to say things crudely...often true, but often misunderstood.  Since then, more explanation and logic has been given with some of this misunderstood thoughts.  I believe we can improve it a little more, but not for respectability, but for PRESENTIBILITY.  We aren't scumbag low class shmucks.  We are  a real movement with real logical righteous intentions.  We cannot act like the animals we hate by sounding hateful and stupid and crude.  we have to be presentible..and I don't mean being nice...Presentible doesn't mean nice or respectable or respecting.  It means explaining our points of view as eloquently as Rabbi Kahane did rather than sounding like a bunch of uneducated racist shmucks.

If you want to be sound like a racist shmuck, form your own movement.  If you want to be presentable and learn how to be presentable, stick around and share your ideals. We are a great movement filled wtih educated and intelligent people and we need to learn how to sound that way.

[Scriabin]

JTF's numbers are going down?

Yes.

Look at the number of users online, its pathetic.

[Scriabin]

Threads and polls being altered my mystery moderators?

No mystery.

[Scriabin]

The Titanic going down? 

That's AsheDina's metaphor, not mine.

[Scriabin]

Righteous Jews no longer on JTF? Huh? DWI is Jewish. What mass Jewish exodus are you talking about?

DWI agrees with us.

[Scriabin]

This thread is filled with baseless accusations and borderline conspiracy theories.

No.  This thread is filled with debate. 

The "accusations and borderline conspiracy theories" are in the minority.

[Dr. Dan]

JTF's numbers are going down?

Yes.

Look at the number of users online, its pathetic.

maybe then we need to some non Hebrew JTF videos now that Marbus thinks his work his done.

[Scriabin]

JTF's numbers are going down?

Yes.

Look at the number of users online, its pathetic.

maybe then we need to some non Hebrew JTF videos now that Marbus thinks his work his done.

Chaim has no interest in doing non-Hebrew videos.

The truth is that he views Ask JTF as a burden.

[Dr. Dan]

JTF's numbers are going down?

Yes.

Look at the number of users online, its pathetic.

maybe then we need to some non Hebrew JTF videos now that Marbus thinks his work his done.

Chaim has no interest in doing non-Hebrew videos.

The truth is that he views Ask JTF as a burden.

you think? how would you know that? and if so and you don't like it, why are you still here?