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Scandanavia leading countries in Jew hatred
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Behind the Humanitarian Mask: The Nordic Countries, Israel and the Jews.
Edited by Manfred Gerstenfeld
Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs/Simon Wiesenthal Center
256 pages; $29


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When Scandinavia is mentioned, we instinctively conjure up images of decent people who are our friends. We associate them with the king of Denmark's refusal to implement the Nazi racial laws, the rescue of 7,000 Danish Jews to neutral Sweden and noble humanitarians like Raoul Wallenberg, the Swedish diplomat in Hungary who emerged as the role model for Righteous Gentiles. Many of us also remember Per Ahlmark, the former Swedish deputy prime minister and leader of the Liberal Party, who was a stalwart campaigner against anti-Semitism and probably the first non-Jewish statesman to publicly proclaim that hatred of Israel was being exploited as a surrogate for traditional anti-Semitism.

Yet regrettably, this beatific image of philo-Semitic Scandinavians is a far cry from reality. Despite the presence of only minuscule Jewish communities in the region, Scandinavian countries are today at the forefront of promoting the most vicious expressions of the new anti-Semitism and are at the vanguard of the global campaign to demonize and delegitimize Israel. What makes their application of double standards and virulent bias grate even more is the sanctimonious manner in which they cloak their venom against the Jewish state and Jews in general.

For the first time, this subject has been comprehensively encapsulated in a book of 13 essays and interviews edited by Manfred Gerstenfeld, published jointly by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs and the Simon Wiesenthal Center. It opens with a foreword by Gert Weisskirchen, the personal representative of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe's chairman, on combating anti-Semitism. Weisskirchen does not hold back and stresses that the demonization of Israel, especially the bracketing of Jews and Nazis, represents one of the most obvious manifestations of the new anti-Semitism that dominates political discourse on the Middle East even among liberal politicians and the mainstream press.

The book demonstrates that far from being a new phenomenon, anti-Semitism has dominated the region for centuries, and originates with hostility against Jews coming from the predominantly Lutheran affiliation of Scandinavians. It is not coincidental that Jewish ritual slaughter was banned in Norway even before Hitler's ascent to power, despite the fact that Norwegians regard hunting as a national pastime and Norway remains one of only three countries in the world in which whaling is still permitted.

The book contains chapters by Danish scholars who unmask the pretence that philo-Semitism prevails and demonstrate that despite the rescue of Danish Jews in 1943 (which according to recent disclosures also incorporated some seamy aspects), there were other aspects of Danish behavior under the Nazis that were despicable. For example, 6,000 Danes voluntarily joined the Waffen SS, Danish industry collaborated enthusiastically with the Nazis and Jewish refugees were expelled and handed over to the Nazis between 1940 and 1943. Efraim Zuroff, the Nazi hunter, provides a chapter that demonstrates that successive postwar governments prevaricated and displayed great reluctance in prosecuting war criminals and in some cases even assisted Nazis to escape.


 

In the contemporary context, it was the socialist Swedish prime minister, the late Olof Palme, who under the guise of promoting human rights, became the first European leader to inverse Holocaust denial by accusing Israelis of behaving like Nazis toward the Palestinians. It was also Archbishop Karl Hammar, head of the Swedish Lutheran Council, who became one of the first to call for a boycott of goods from Israel. Mainstream media caricatures of Israelis in the region are among the worst in Europe, especially in Norway, where they were so offensive that they were equated with the anti-Semitic cartoons which appeared in Der Stürmer.

The aggressiveness and power of Muslims who have immigrated to the region in recent years was dramatically highlighted during the violent onslaught against the Danish media when one of its dailies, Jylland-Posten, published 12 cartoons displaying caricatures of the prophet Muhammad. Ultimately, most of the media, together with the government, cravenly capitulated in the face of local and international Muslim threats of violence.

One of the most fascinating chapters in the book is the interview with Zvi Mazel, a former ambassador to Sweden, who describes his trials and tribulations within the context of bizarre anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic onslaughts emanating from the government and NGOs and constant death threats expressed publicly by Muslim imams. Mazel also describes the hysterical media responses after he personally disconnected the electricity to an obscene art exhibition glorifying suicide bombers, created by a demented Israeli living in Sweden.

The overall situation is encapsulated in a brilliant summary by Gerstenfeld, chairman of the Board of Fellows of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, who traces the history and provides a chapter-and-verse account of the double standards, bias and naked anti-Semitism which pervades the region. His most devastating depictions are a country by country outline of Nordic responses to the Second Lebanon War. They display incredible hostility against Israel largely based on ignorance and falsehoods promoted under the cloak of purported humanitarianism.

The book is a pioneering study of how in our times, even in regions in which few Jews reside, organizations purportedly promoting human rights have been hijacked by anti-Semites who promote demonization of Israel as a vehicle to besmirch Jews. Indeed, it illustrates that in Western Europe the Scandinavian countries have assumed a vanguard role in applying bias and distortions against Israel in a manner that has never been applied against any other nation. It demonstrates how traditional anti-Semites, radical leftists, Muslim immigrants and the media have colluded in shamelessly promoting the world's oldest hatred. Hopefully, it will lead to soul searching and analysis in the region and promote a backlash from decent Scandinavians who have hitherto resisted participating in the ongoing hate fest against Israel and the Jewish people.

Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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Re: Scandanavia leading countries in Jew hatred
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2008, 02:56:46 PM »
   I didn't know that!
The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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Re: Scandanavia leading countries in Jew hatred
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2008, 03:17:50 PM »
I disagree with this article. Scandinavia is virulently anti-Israeli. You and I know well that anti-Zionism is animated by the hatred of the Jews. But an anti-Zionist will vigorously deny it, and there is nothing one could do to prove his anti-semitism if all he says are invectives against Israel as a country but not against Jews as people. I have never in all my years of living in Scandinavia heard any negative comments against the Jews (except from Arabs) or read them in any mainstream media. I have occasionally encountered anti-semitic comments in some blogs, but nowhere with the frequency one sees them in the U.S. blogosphere. So it is not true that anti-semitic rhetoric exists in Scandinavia to any serious extent (unless we count the anti-Zionist sentiment, which is very strong indeed, but which you cannot officially link to anti-semitism, because, as all anti-semites, including Jewish ones, say: being anti-Israel is not the same thing as being anti-semitic).

However, there is a silver lining, as well. The Swedish anti-Jihad and anti-immigrant party, Swedish Democrats, who are vilified by the media as racist, right-wing extremists, are the staunchest Israel supporters and ally in Sweden.

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Re: Scandanavia leading countries in Jew hatred
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 03:21:06 PM »
thanks Mord.  this is important to know what is going on in this region of the world.  i hope there are intelligent citizens who resist following this movement and we need to stay on top of this important info.

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Re: Scandanavia leading countries in Jew hatred
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 03:27:02 PM »
Hello,

I don't give a PackRats Hiney what Scandanavia thinks about Israel or the Jews. I dont do any business with anything Scandanavian... I do work with a Scandanavian fellow who seems to be good friends with my Israeli friend {they are cube neighbors}. Maybe this is because my Israeli friend is not a zionist? I dont know about that...

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Re: Scandanavia leading countries in Jew hatred
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 07:08:32 AM »
Yes my friend from Norway who is not Jewish but is very pro Israel and who has litterally been in fist fights with Norwegians   turks and arabs as well as pakis told me that anti zionism is code for anti Jewish.Like he said what about Darfur or Christians in Arab countries the Bahai in Iran.Well hes dead now not from people he killed himself over his wife
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Re: Scandanavia leading countries in Jew hatred
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 08:42:55 AM »
In my opinion, it's not a matter of anti-Semitism in northern Europe so much as their disgusting efforts to curry favor from their ugly Arab minority.  Most on this board would be aware that there is an ongoing plague of Arabs raping native European women.  The reaction of the natives is to just frown and look down at their shoes.  The rapists are always referred to as 'youths' by the media;  if you see that word 'youth' when reading stories about crime in Europe, just read 'Arab low-lifes'.

If the natives of Europe won't protect their own women, why would they care about Israel?

Incredible that such weakness exists among the descendants of the Vikings.

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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 08:46:48 AM »
Yes this is true thats why my friend always stood up to these invaders to his homeland
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 09:28:21 AM »
In my opinion, it's not a matter of anti-Semitism in northern Europe so much as their disgusting efforts to curry favor from their ugly Arab minority.  Most on this board would be aware that there is an ongoing plague of Arabs raping native European women.  The reaction of the natives is to just frown and look down at their shoes.  The rapists are always referred to as 'youths' by the media;  if you see that word 'youth' when reading stories about crime in Europe, just read 'Arab low-lifes'.

If the natives of Europe won't protect their own women, why would they care about Israel?

Incredible that such weakness exists among the descendants of the Vikings.

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This is 100 % correct.

I think this new-antisemitism is born out of the anti-racist  ideology. The persons who follow this cult are not able to realize, that some cultures and specially the islamic culture is pure evil. They are looking for logical reasons in order to excuse the horrible crimes and find them in the pretended racism of the majority society. Now they project their own world view on the conflict in Israel.

This fools, that are in Europe and specially in socialist Scandivia the majority doing everything to excuse this Muslim savages. It is pathologic.

I didn't think, that in Europe will anything change. It is a hard interests, that bind Socialists and Muslims besides this psychotic confusion of reality together.

I can only repeat what I wrote to this issue dozens of times here.

Socialists need the Muslime vote to harden their political domination and the Muslims need aid money that socialists provide, because without the different types of this subsidies they would not be able to rent even an appartment in the greater cities of Europe.

The greatest part of Europeans are not able to become righteous and to reject this welfare cancer, that destroys our working ethic and lures milliones over milliones of lazy stupid Muslims into Europe.

Over 50 % of the German budget is spent for welfare and 25 % for debts. I really didn't see the point why I should pay taxes.

I will not explicate what my personal conclusions are of this nut-house called Germany because JTF is a law abiding organization.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2008, 09:46:10 AM »
I have read the text and I think the chapter about Denmark is not very helpfull. From all scandinavian countries Denmark has a good record.

and this is simply wrong:

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The book demonstrates that far from being a new phenomenon, anti-Semitism has dominated the region for centuries, and originates with hostility against Jews coming from the predominantly Lutheran affiliation of Scandinavians.

Only a very small miniority has read the scriptures of Luther and an even smaller majority has read them in depth.

The Christian para-statal churches in Skandinavia are destroyed. They are empty wrappers, controlled by non-believing socialists. Nearly nobody is joining service on Sunday and in fact they give only the ruling bolshewists "ethical" legitimation for clearly forbidden acts, like abortion, gay marriage, spreading the wealth around etc.

There was sometimes a clerical anti-semitism, but before 200 years.

The relation between so called Christian faith in Scandinavia and this new anti-semitism is a leftists thesis, that is today far from the reality. It is only a cheap slogan.

The source is in fact western selfhate combined with anti racist and one-world ideology and this spiced with a little bit hate towards god himself.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center seems to have not hit the core.

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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2008, 09:46:59 AM »
Europe needs some Nationalists it's become a bad word the left tells us
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2008, 09:50:01 AM »
Yes what you say is true the Norwegians used to have some Nationalists no more.Finland is'nt as bad is it?
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2008, 11:35:39 AM »
Denmark and Finland seem to have a good record with regards to Israel. Chaim and I disagree on Finland being that they were allies with the Nazis, but the Finns refused to give up the Finnish Jews to the Nazis. The Finns allied themselves with the Nazis strictly for political gains to fight off the Russians.

Sweden is iffy, the Swedes have this wacky anti-racist "one cuts, we all bleed" culture and see everyone as human. So they criticize the Israeli's for being "racist" against the Koranimals, but they are not necessarily anti-Semitic.

Norway on the other hand speaks for itself... (though with the recent crime/rape increase by the Koranimals, some Norwegians do sympathize with what the Israelis go through)  

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2008, 12:07:09 PM »
Denmark and Finland seem to have a good record with regards to Israel. Chaim and I disagree on Finland being that they were allies with the Nazis, but the Finns refused to give up the Finnish Jews to the Nazis. The Finns allied themselves with the Nazis strictly for political gains to fight off the Russians.

Sweden is iffy, the Swedes have this wacky anti-racist "one cuts, we all bleed" culture and see everyone as human. So they criticize the Israeli's for being "racist" against the Koranimals, but they are not necessarily anti-Semitic.

Norway on the other hand speaks for itself... (though with the recent crime/rape increase by the Koranimals, some Norwegians do sympathize with what the Israelis go through)  
Finns really had no choice they were invaded by bolshevik Russia,besides even FINNISH JEWS SERVED IN THE FINNISH ARMY DURRING WW2                      

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2008, 12:09:48 PM »
I coulda swarn that France had the highest anti-antisemitism in Europe.   I'm too lazy to look for the article.

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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2008, 12:18:42 PM »
I coulda swarn that France had the highest anti-antisemitism in Europe.   I'm too lazy to look for the article.


Absolutely - I don't know where they come off saying Scandinavians lead the way, the French might as well have Nazi rallies..

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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 02:23:41 AM »
In my opinion, it's not a matter of anti-Semitism in northern Europe so much as their disgusting efforts to curry favor from their ugly Arab minority.  Most on this board would be aware that there is an ongoing plague of Arabs raping native European women.  The reaction of the natives is to just frown and look down at their shoes.  The rapists are always referred to as 'youths' by the media;  if you see that word 'youth' when reading stories about crime in Europe, just read 'Arab low-lifes'.

If the natives of Europe won't protect their own women, why would they care about Israel?

Incredible that such weakness exists among the descendants of the Vikings.

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I agree with you as well. This is how I see it also. There is a lot of real anti-semitism from arabs that I have been witness to. As for Scandinavians themselves - it's an open question how much of their anti-Zionism is motivated by true anti-semitism, and how much of it is a desire, like you said, "to curry favor from their ugly Arab minority." I have seen very little evidence of traditional anti-semitism. I don't know if it's suppressed or it has morphed into anti-zionism.

I disagree also with all the Luther-bashing, because this is something I know about. Luther was not exceptionally anti-semitic for his times. You must see him in a proper historical context. In some ways, he was really moderate towards Jews, compared to others. His views underwent a transformation, as well. He defended Jews in the beginning of his career. Later, he attacked Jews. Before his death, his views on Jews have changed again in a positive direction. Regardless, Martin Luther was a truly great and admirable historical figure. He had a great deal of personal courage and was a Reformation hero. He was a great intellectual and wrote profound texts. That he wrote some reprehensible things about the Jews just goes to show that even good people make mistakes and do things that are wrong. And great people can make great mistakes. I think that in the interest of keeping peace on this joint Jewish/Christian board, all attempts to villify Luther, who is an important figure to Protestants, should be resisted. I notice that this board has been very restrained in criticising Catholicism and specific Popes (as it should be!). The same curtesy should be extended to Protestants, as I am sure, there are Lutherans among them, and Martin Luther is a revered figure.

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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 02:32:45 AM »
Europe needs some Nationalists it's become a bad word the left tells us

It's coming, nationaism is coming. It's in the making. The big worry is that it's coming too late.  :'(