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U.K. church changes Christmas Carols to Anti Israel carols
« on: November 26, 2008, 10:52:25 AM »
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Outcry as songs are re-written for anti-Israel carol concert at famous churchBy Jonathan Petre
Last updated at 3:34 AM on 23rd November 2008
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Organisers of a Christmas carol concert being held in a famous church have been condemned for rewriting  traditional verses to attack Israel.
Far from bringing tidings of comfort and joy, the participants will instead sing about ‘war crimes’, ‘assassinations’ and the ‘oppression’ of Palestinians.

The concert, which has been organised by anti-Israeli campaigners, is due to take place on Wednesday at St James’s, Piccadilly, a Christopher Wren-designed church in Central London.
Its critics include the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Carey, who said that the rewriting of much-loved traditional carols for such partisan political purposes was deeply offensive.
The reworked carols include favourites such as O Come All Ye Faithful, O Little Town Of Bethlehem, The Holly And The Ivy and Hark The Herald Angels Sing.
Even The Twelve Days Of Christmas gets the treatment. A revised opening verse of While Shepherds Watched goes: ‘While shepherds watched their flocks by night, All seated on the ground, Some occupying soldiers came and bulldozed all around.’
The event, called Bethlehem Now: Nine Alternative Lessons And Carols For Palestine, has been organised by Jews For Boycotting Israeli Goods, a group of secular British Jews opposed to Israeli policies.

It has been approved by the rector of St James’s, the Rev Charles Hedley, who said he thought that Christmas was a good time for Jews and Christians to co-operate in a bid to ‘address the need for peace and reconciliation’.

Bruce Kent, a former Roman Catholic priest and prominent peace campaigner who will read one of the lessons, said: ‘I think it is perfectly reasonable for carols to be rewritten in this way.

‘I am fed up with sugary religion – the baby Jesus sitting in his stable and all that stuff.’

Lord Carey, who has been deeply involved in peace efforts in the Middle East, said:

‘It’s a shame to see a famous London church lay on such a one-sided political demonstration. There are many reasonable concerns about both Israeli and Palestinian policies and actions, but a stunt of this nature is just unhelpful.

‘Many British people have a great affection for Christmas carols and will be offended that they’re being used in such an overtly political way.’

David Gifford, the chief executive of the Council of Christians and Jews, which was set up to improve relations between the faiths, dismissed the exercise as ‘puerile’.

He added: ‘This is the blatant politicising of the Christian festival of Christmas, and that in itself is offensive to many Christians.’
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Re: U.K. church changes Christmas Carols to Anti Israel carols
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 11:44:31 AM »
This is a filthy rodent and an embarrassment to the Christian/Catholic faith
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Re: U.K. church changes Christmas Carols to Anti Israel carols
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 12:06:46 PM »
This is happening if the church is controlled by the gouvernment directly or and indirectly.

But believe me, they can do even worse ...   :(
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Re: U.K. church changes Christmas Carols to Anti Israel carols
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 12:13:08 PM »
This is happening if the church is controlled by the gouvernment directly or and indirectly.

But believe me, they can do even worse ...   :(
This is true some Churches and shuls don't take monet from the govt here because of this reason,although here the Govt won'nt interfere too much.Who knows now under obama
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Re: U.K. church changes Christmas Carols to Anti Israel carols
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 12:44:35 PM »
That's awful, and disrespectful to both religions.

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 01:00:48 PM »
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Re: U.K. church changes Christmas Carols to Anti Israel carols
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 02:14:19 PM »
I'm offended as a Catholic because these carols are being perverted; but much more importantly, I am offended as a Catholic supporter of Judaism and Israel because of this disgusting display of hostility to the Jewish nation.  Christmas carols will survive intact, even in the face of this overt display of disrespect from the people who are supposed to revere them.  But the Jewish nation will not survive if stunts like this are allowed to pass by unprotested.  Jesus was a Jew: the entire New Testament is about Jews.  Theological differences aside, when the Jews are insulted I am insulted and Christ is insulted.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 02:24:22 PM »
i read it was leftist jews that wrote the anti israel christmas carols!

deborah fink helped for example..

http://www.masada2000.org/list-F.html
"Fink, Deborah   This London singer foregoes the Kumbayah tunes and and goes right for Israel's jugular.  As an activist with Jews for Justice for Palestinians  (JFJFP), she accuses the Israel Defense Forces of committing "war crimes," of "inflicting 55 years of injustice on the Palestinians" and accuses today's Israeli Jews as being Nazi-like..."as with Jews under the Nazis, Palestinians are being imprisoned in ghettos."  Furthermore, "When will the international community stop Israel from doing just what it likes? As a Jew, I am ashamed of its barbaric treatment of the Palestinians...""


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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 02:39:40 PM »
NAZI LIKE :laugh: Israel should be just be normal
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Re: U.K. church changes Christmas Carols to Anti Israel carols
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 10:07:03 PM »
The Anglican Church is a cesspool. The Church of England has gotten so absurdly left-wing (ordaining homosexuals and teaching that Scripture is a record of mythological events) that the African branches of it (Ugandan and Nigerian) have broken off and become independent bodies, and several of the more conservative American Episcopalian churches have broken off and joined the African church as well.

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2008, 03:56:29 AM »
The Anglican Church is a cesspool. The Church of England has gotten so absurdly left-wing (ordaining homosexuals and teaching that Scripture is a record of mythological events) that the African branches of it (Ugandan and Nigerian) have broken off and become independent bodies, and several of the more conservative American Episcopalian churches have broken off and joined the African church as well.

This is true C.F.

I really didn't understand people, that are members in this organization. It is like the German EKD.

My point is, if somebody want to be a wicked animal, he can join the Green party or the Socialists. Why are this people in a religious community?

It is hypocrisy.
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Re: U.K. church changes Christmas Carols to Anti Israel carols
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2008, 05:40:14 AM »
The Anglican Church is a cesspool. The Church of England has gotten so absurdly left-wing (ordaining homosexuals and teaching that Scripture is a record of mythological events) that the African branches of it (Ugandan and Nigerian) have broken off and become independent bodies, and several of the more conservative American Episcopalian churches have broken off and joined the African church as well.
Yes this is exactly right. Spouting left wing politics from the pulpit is not a good policy. In most cases the two messages are opposed and it leaves the clergy spouting the garbage looking like a left wing nut. Done enough it makes a laughing stock out of the church in question. It's one thing for a church to be active in social issues but it should not be done during religious functions. Clergy that take radical stands should speak for themselves and not drag down the entire church they are affiliated with.
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