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Is Israel a puppet of the USA?

Yes
5 (41.7%)
No, they are independent of each other
1 (8.3%)
No, it's the opposite (USA is the puppet of Israel)
0 (0%)
No, everyone is the puppet of big businesses and oil companies etc
3 (25%)
No, every nation is a puppet of the Almighty
3 (25%)
Not sure, need to watch Chaim's video first
0 (0%)

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Offline Dr. Dan

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Is Israel a puppet of the USA?
« on: November 26, 2008, 11:01:08 AM »
Didn't get to see Chaim's video, but will now  to see what he says.  It's an interesting question and good for a nice debate on the forum. That's why I put up this poll.
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Re: Is Israel a puppet of the USA?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 11:22:37 AM »
In the israeli public's psych , Israel is definitely a puppet state, unable to defy American dictation and unable to survive without American support. Even more terrifying is the fact that many Isralis  actually wish for America to force a final settlement of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

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Re: Is Israel a puppet of the USA?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 11:39:50 AM »
That video blew me away...

I think that first and foremost, all nations are so called puppets of Gd...but with enough free will that Gd would direct the story differently if a nation chooses one thing or the other.

Let's go point by point.


The US is definately NOT a puppet of the Israel.
And both nations are a puppet to big businesses and oil companies to a certain degree.

HOwever, is Israel a puppet of the US or not?  I would rather say that Israel relies very heavily on the opinions of the world and the USA, WITHOUT A DOUBT!  At times they rely too much.  They are better off relying less if at all.

lessons to be tought from history and lessons from this movement that for us to be who we ought to be and to survive, we have to be tough and be ready to act especially when it is our survival.  We cannot be apologetic when it comes to surviving.  When there are those who wish to kill us, we need to smite them first.
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Re: Is Israel a puppet of the USA?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 02:28:53 PM »
In the israeli public's psych , Israel is definitely a puppet state, unable to defy American dictation and unable to survive without American support. Even more terrifying is the fact that many Isralis  actually wish for America to force a final settlement of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Exactly...I notice it all over with less religious to secular israelis. They essentially say they need the world community or more specifically the US's likability to make the right decisions. It is the wrong way to think.
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Re: Is Israel a puppet of the USA?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 03:31:43 PM »
Dependence on the United States is the third rail of Israeli politics. Since most Israelis do not have faith in G-d, they assume they need a big, powerful nation to lean on for support and survival.