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SoldierOfZion:
Typical nazi fag...

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Richard Wagner did a J Edgar Hoover in Corsets and Lace
12 Adar 5767, 02 March 07 10:09
by Steven Plaut
12 Adar 5767, 3/2/2007

(IsraelNN.com) Oh, darned.

Now we will never be able to prevent the Caring Crowd from demanding that the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra play Wagner's music.  This sounds like it is taken from Mel Brooks' "The Producers", but it turns out that Hitler's favorite composer was a transvestite.  And this is NOT a Purim joke.

Adolf Hitler once said that "Whoever wants to understand National Socialistic Germany must know Wagner."  Richard Wagner was an early promoter of racialist theories about Jewish inferiority.  Wagner's opera "The Ring of Nibelung" was particularly anti-Semitic, although now we all must wonder on what Wagner must have been nibbling when he composed his Nibelung.  The Nazis found many of Wagner's rantings inspiring and lionized him.

The Guardian in the UK has just reported that Richard Wagner was a cross dresser.  Seems the pre-nazi composer himself bragged about it. He wrote: "The bodice will have a high collar, with a lace jabot and ribbons; close-fitting sleeves; the dress trimmed with puffed flounces - of the same satin material - no basque at the front (the dress must be very wide and have a train) but a rich bustle with a bow at the back, like the one at the front) ..."  His letter about his passion for ladies' garments was revealed by a new web site, the Wagner Journal, run by an Opera buff and groupie of Wagner.

Barry Millington, co-editor of the Wagner Journal, is cited in the Guardian as saying: "He obviously had a very pronounced feminine side," said Mr Millington. "There was this whole business with silks and satin underwear: he had to wear silk next to his skin."  Moreover, Wagner shopped for his clothes with fancy French dress designers.  Oo la la!

Now performing Wagner has long been controversial in Israel.  On the one hand, there may be as many as 300 people in Israel who actually like to listen to opera music and a few of these want the Israel Philharmonic to perform Wagner until the fat lady sings.  As Mark Twain once said, opera music is better than it sounds.  The orchestra however refuses to perform Wagner; one can occasionally hear Wagner on Israeli radio.  Zubin Mehta requested to conduct Wagner and was turned down flat.  Anti-Israel moonbat maestro Daniel Barenboim has to go to Bayreuth to conduct Wagner.  Many non-Jews are also uncomfortable with performing Wagner.   

But now that it turns out that Wagner was politically correct, that is, a transvestite in lace as well as a fruit, how on earth will we be able to stop the demands from the Moonbatocracy that he be celebrated in Israel as well? 

MassuhDGoodName:
Re:  "...The Guardian in the UK has just reported that Richard Wagner was a cross dresser..."

Anyone, including Steven Plaut, who quotes The Guardian UK to prove anything whatsoever, is either a stupid fool, a Marxist Internationalist, or both.

These allegations regarding Richard Wagner are 100% lies.

Not one iota of truth is to be found in any of The Guardian UK's absurd article, and not one iota of learning, reason, or logic, is to be gained from reading Plaut's aspersion-ridden diatribe.

The Guardian UK is a sick Jew-Hating, Bolshevik, pro-Homosexual sham of a newspaper.

The article in question credits some obvious faggot who is quoting completely out of context.
from Wagner's diary.
 
Say what you will about Richard Wagner, but he was nevertheless one of the greatest geniuses in all of history.

He was also a most complex personality; one who railed against Jews like a madman, but also insisted that his manuscripts only be sent to one particular Jewish music publicist for transcription; insisting that only this one Jewish publisher had the capabilities to always transcribe his compositions perfectly.

He also had more than a few young Jewish composers who followed him and admired him greatly.

There is not so much as a single shred of evidence that Richard Wagner was anything other than a devoted husband and father throughout his life.

Those offering suggestions that "suddenly"...in 2007...a sick fag running a Wagner website fanclub "has discovered for the first time" that one of the greatest composers/authors in human history was some kind of "closet case fag", are dangerously delusional, are blatant liars, and they themselves have a hidden agenda in promoting a homosexual agenda.

There are few publications as anti-Semitic, pro-terrorist, and Jew-Hating as is The Guardian UK.

Steven Plaut has convinced me that that he is less than credible.

I know little about him other except that he's a Professor.

Well, the "Professor" had better do a little better research before blowing untrue crap worldwide and signing his name to it.

Richard Wagner authored numerous books, as well as single handedly, and permanently, revolutionized the world of music and theatre.

There remains not a single aspect of his life, works, and art, that has not been documented in literally hundreds of in-depth biographical studies.

Finally, I must add while Der Fuhrer loved Wagner and his music; there is no direct connection between Wagner and Hitler.

Nor can be made a connection between Wagner and the Nazis; there being no such social or political movement during Wagner's lifetime. 

Wagner lived in the mid-late 1800's.

Politically, he was a radical revolutionary who in his youth literally had to run for his life and seek exile in Switzerland.

While he hated Jews, it can truthfully be said that the vast number of Germans in the 19th Century hated Jews

It might also be said that his ravings and rantings were likely the outbursts and rages of a superb genius on the edge of insanity.

cjd:
You are exactly right on this Massuh. It seems that more and more evil news sources come up with frivolous disclosures on historical figures that distort and even destroy the person in questions reputation. Although  am not an expert on Wagner it is sad that over a hundred years after his death this sort of disclosure rears its head when its hard to confirm or deny.
I am always disgusted when accusations are made about J. Edgar Hoover being a cross dresser. Why didn't people who knew this come forward when this man was alive with accusations like this. Toward the end of his administration Hoover came under several senate reviews and nothing like this was ever mentioned. I cant help but feel many of this sort of accusation is made for self serving means. Its sad that some historical figures have to pay the price for this nonsense undeservedly.

Trumpeldor:

--- Quote from: cjd on March 03, 2007, 06:17:17 AM ---You are exactly right on this Massuh. It seems that more and more evil news sources come up with frivolous disclosures on historical figures that distort and even destroy the person in questions reputation. Although  am not an expert on Wagner it is sad that over a hundred years after his death this sort of disclosure rears its head when its hard to confirm or deny.
I am always disgusted when accusations are made about J. Edgar Hoover being a cross dresser. Why didn't people who knew this come forward when this man was alive with accusations like this. Toward the end of his administration Hoover came under several senate reviews and nothing like this was ever mentioned. I cant help but feel many of this sort of accusation is made for self serving means. Its sad that some historical figures have to pay the price for this nonsense undeservedly.

--- End quote ---

J. Edgar was known to be a cross-dresser and a homosexual while he was alive. Presidents and other political rivals refrained from making mention of this due to Hoover's immense power. I don't think it's sad that historical figures come under fire after the fact. I think actions have consequences and unless it is a baseless smear campaign (which in Hoover's case it is not), these issues need to be discussed.

cjd:

--- Quote from: Jabo on March 03, 2007, 10:38:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: cjd on March 03, 2007, 06:17:17 AM ---You are exactly right on this Massuh. It seems that more and more evil news sources come up with frivolous disclosures on historical figures that distort and even destroy the person in questions reputation. Although  am not an expert on Wagner it is sad that over a hundred years after his death this sort of disclosure rears its head when its hard to confirm or deny.
I am always disgusted when accusations are made about J. Edgar Hoover being a cross dresser. Why didn't people who knew this come forward when this man was alive with accusations like this. Toward the end of his administration Hoover came under several senate reviews and nothing like this was ever mentioned. I cant help but feel many of this sort of accusation is made for self serving means. Its sad that some historical figures have to pay the price for this nonsense undeservedly.

--- End quote ---

J. Edgar was known to be a cross-dresser and a homosexual while he was alive. Presidents and other political rivals refrained from making mention of this due to Hoover's immense power. I don't think it's sad that historical figures come under fire after the fact. I think actions have consequences and unless it is a baseless smear campaign (which in Hoover's case it is not), these issues need to be discussed.

--- End quote ---
Jabo I see your point however for me it just seems wrong to defame someone after they are dead and unable to defend themselves. For every account that I read about Hoover being strange I see others that say he wasn't. It just seems pointless that all this garbage came out after he was out of office and dead. As powerfull as Hoover was I cant believe he was able to keep such a weird lifestyle under wraps with enemy's like the Kennedy's and many of the other high power folks Hoover was at odds with. They would have exposed him in a second and they had the cash and ability to do it. Whatever Hoover was he built the FBI into an organization that was world renowned for maintaining law and order. For me Hoover and the FBI are inseparable.

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