This week show (3/05/07)

[Joe Gutfeld]

I would like to know why Chaim and the other man was standing up during the whole show this week?  Why?  Because it's purium?  I would like an answer.

[Joe Gutfeld]

That's not an answer.  Why can't you answer on this post?

[Trumpeldor]

The [censored] stole all the chairs from the studio. That's why.

[Fruit of thy loins]

Are [censored] the new deus ex machina?  The new Elijah the prophet?  Why do you blame them for everything but being diamonds in white women's eyes? 

[Trumpeldor]

Are schvartzas the new deus ex machina?  The new Elijah the prophet?  Why do you blame them for everything but being diamonds in white women's eyes? 

I don't care what white women think of them. I'm not emotionally attracted to non-Jewish women. Conversely, Jewish women, even the secular ones, find them repulsive.

Think about it. Dating black men is no different than swallowing a turd. If you do it, you are repulsive but I wouldn't spend my time bemoaning the number of people who enjoy eating feces. That's life. Move on.

[Fruit of thy loins]

Are schvartzas the new deus ex machina?  The new Elijah the prophet?  Why do you blame them for everything but being diamonds in white women's eyes? 

I don't care what white women think of them. I'm not emotionally attracted to non-Jewish women. Conversely, Jewish women, even the secular ones, find them repulsive.

Think about it. Dating black men is no different than swallowing a turd. If you do it, you are repulsive but I wouldn't spend my time bemoaning the number of people who enjoy eating feces. That's life. Move on.

I really want the white race to stop existing.

[Sarah]

That's life. Move on.

Jabo, thats exactly what we need to do. Its one of the downsides that i find about JTF, we always discuss and moan about things that have already happened and people who have long gone. -I'm not talking about the huge events of persecution that occurred and affected the world. It would be better to MOVE ON COMPLETELY and find solutions to things instead of negativity in things that already exist. There is always going to be something that dissatisfies us so it is better to turn to the good and discuss and develop our knowledge on that, like religion. Also we should discover our OWN faults before criticizing others, because then we just come over as ignorant hypocritical people, just like those who we disagree with.

One day the world will cease to exist. The mountains will crumble to dust and we will be no more. Oh well, like Jabo said, it happens so it happens. If its Gods world then so it will be. But we have to try in the meantime.......

[Trumpeldor]

Sarah,
A lot of us are attracted to this site because it lets us blow off steam. There is nowhere else one can find these sort of views. Before someone overreacts at this, I admit I wholeheartedly support Chaim and the Kahanist cause. However, until I become financially independent, there is only so much I can do, be it on youtube and elsewhere to promote JTF. Believe you me, I am doing the best I can.

[Fruit of thy loins]

Sarah, of course, wants reconciliation and moderation of tone because 'she' is a Pakistani Muslim.  Here in Britain we have a culture of mediation.  A striking example is when two drunken oafs lock horns for some petty reason outside a nightclub.  Usually someone is there to 'talk sense' to them.  The point of which is to avoid fighting, whereas fighting is righteous and manly.  Men should kill each other, it is what they are here for: to fight battles.

The weak shall perish: that means I shall perish.  The day is coming speedily and I want all mediators to stick a big branch up their backsides.

[Din Rodef]

Sarah, of course, wants reconciliation and moderation of tone because 'she' is a Pakistani Muslim.  Here in Britain we have a culture of mediation.  A striking example is when two drunken oafs lock horns for some petty reason outside a nightclub.  Usually someone is there to 'talk sense' to them.  The point of which is to avoid fighting, whereas fighting is righteous and manly.  Men should kill each other, it is what they are here for: to fight battles.

The weak shall perish: that means I shall perish.  The day is coming speedily and I want all mediators to stick a big branch up their backsides.

You're post is totally correct...I get that vibe of "moderation" and "reconciliation"...It's a feminine quality of weakness and subservience.

You're in Britain and you hate white people? Maybe it's a good time to move to Israel

[Fruit of thy loins]

I have too many problems and I don't want to break a bright-eyed young girl's heart.  Anyway she will find someone a lot better than me when she gets to university in a couple years' time.

I was thinking about this last night.  Women undergo a radical change between the ages of 14 and 18.  At 15 a young woman grins from ear-to-ear and is almost willing to worship the man who wants ... her lusts take control of her, and she is a beautiful flower of blossoming womanhood.  But what can an 18 uear old girl be likened to?  To the melancholy of a late summer's evening ... chilled and refined ... she knows the world, she knows man, and she doesn't take any more nonsense ... she goes out and gets, takes to herself, and becomes a true woman.  This is why no woman aged 18 or over could ever want me.  They see death hovering above my head, they see my impotence, and they straightway turn tail and look for love in the arms of a true man.

[Sarah]

Fruit you banana brain! I do like you, but in a mostly friendly way and yes, my "cyber" heart is broken?! I'm not stupid nor weak and i certainly don't come from Pakistan . I am not a muslim. If you go on moaning all your life, then no one will want you, but they could, if you have a little more positive outlook towards life!

Jabo i was not critiscising you in any way at all. You make great and interesting posts on JTF, and BELIEVE me, you do a mighty well lot more then i can show for it. I was agreeing with what you said about moving on in life and sometimes pushing hassles aside, to acheive an end goal.

[Sarah]

You said it Yacov.

Of course a true man is a criminal schvartza, how could it not be?!?! They have guns, take drugs, sleep around........its admirable. 

[trekmate]

The schvartzas stole all the chairs from the studio. That's why.

at least, someone answered that question.  i asked the very same question on another forum, but no one even bothered to answer the question.  thank you.

[Fruit of thy loins]

You said it Yacov.

Of course a true man is a criminal schvartza, how could it not be?!?! They have guns, take drugs, sleep around........its admirable. 

The [censored] where I live don't do that.  They go the gym, pump up their bodies, go to clubs and dance like dervishes, study hard, work horrible hours for low pay without complaining, go about in summer topless, and get the white girls drooling all over them.

Stuff this idea that I feel superior to black men.  Of a truth I can't hold a candle up to your average black man.  My life is completely worthless.  The Seven Noahide Commandments are to me simply seven more things I cannot do with my life.  If I cannot even fornicate, which it seems I really cannot, then there is no longer any reason for me left to be alive.

The white women's taste has been as it were spoiled by contact with the black men - they demand the fit bodies, the sexual stamina, the length and the girth, the bald head, the smell of the aftershave and deodorant, the physique, - they demand it BLACK.

[Fruit of thy loins]

Fruit you banana brain! I do like you, but in a mostly friendly way and yes, my "cyber" heart is broken?! I'm not stupid nor weak and i certainly don't come from Pakistan . I am not a muslim. If you go on moaning all your life, then no one will want you, but they could, if you have a little more positive outlook towards life!

Jabo i was not critiscising you in any way at all. You make great and interesting posts on JTF, and BELIEVE me, you do a mighty well lot more then i can show for it. I was agreeing with what you said about moving on in life and sometimes pushing hassles aside, to acheive an end goal.

Maybe I do feel like I want to sleep with you.

Last summer I saw very young women I wanted to sleep with.

[Din Rodef]

Fruit of thy loins

You have been "set up to fail" with women. It's not your fault. You're doing everything right. THe times that you are living in are "setting you up to fail." Don't listen to people that say you need to be "more positive" and other such BS. There is nothing wrong with you...there is something wrong with the world that promotes fornication.

The change you describe happening to girls in their mid-late teens is because THEY HAVE SEX OUT OF WEDLOCK. There is no other reason. They devolve from innocence.

Once a girl has sex outside of marriage she views all men in terms of pleasure. She only likes men who will take her and use her and she hates men that will respect her.

Chaim says, "Those who show mercy to evil, will be evil to the merciful." This statement relates perfectly to young women that fornicate. They enjoy men that fornicate with them, they no longer enjoy men that are righteous. They will lust for black ape behavior and despise righteous men.

Any man that will NOT fornicate must find himself a religious girl. Only a religious girl can understand. Don't worry about the rest of women in the world. They are lost. It's not your fault that you are living in horrible times.

[Fruit of thy loins]

Fruit of thy loins

You have been "set up to fail" with women. It's not your fault. You're doing everything right. THe times that you are living in are "setting you up to fail." Don't listen to people that say you need to be "more positive" and other such BS. There is nothing wrong with you...there is something wrong with the world that promotes fornication.

The change you describe happening to girls in their mid-late teens is because THEY HAVE SEX OUT OF WEDLOCK. There is no other reason. They devolve from innocence.

Once a girl has sex outside of marriage she views all men in terms of pleasure. She only likes men who will take her and use her and she hates men that will respect her.

Chaim says, "Those who show mercy to evil, will be evil to the merciful." This statement relates perfectly to young women that fornicate. They enjoy men that fornicate with them, they no longer enjoy men that are righteous. They will lust for black ape behavior and despise righteous men.

Any man that will NOT fornicate must find himself a religious girl. Only a religious girl can understand. Don't worry about the rest of women in the world. They are lost. It's not your fault that you are living in horrible times.

I agree with you completely.  This is it.  It's sociological factors such as these changing attitudes which I think are the most important things we face.

The Anglo peoples have been permitting their young men to behave in such a fashion, - listening to rap, behaving in a wild and uninhibited way, etc - because they know that this is the only way their young men can compete effectively for women and therefore ensure the continuity of at least part of the Anglo race.

Those who don't behave appropriately are considered losers and are written off.  The Anglos hope to inculcate their cultural values in immigrants and thereby keep up their numbers.

I've really changed my opinion on things recently.  It's not the fault of immigrants.  What we have is a horrendous Anglo-Saxon system imposing itself on the world.  Rap is basically less a black phenomenon than it is a phenomenon of Anglo-induced slavery and oppression. 

Being an Anglo is a cultural thing.  The young white people can easily be saved from this fate, if only we could get into power and re-educate them, to make them righteous but strong individuals, - Noahides not Christians.  Christianity is the religion of choice for Anglos primarily because it embodies most of their values, in particular, the theory that other people are to blame, or can effectively take the blame, for one's own sins.

[Din Rodef]

Fruit of thy loins

There is validity in a lot of the points that you made...I myself am an Anglo-Saxon Protestant Christian American (maybe my username is deceptive...but I sure do love the concept of Din Rodef)

There is no need to overthink this...

Fornication is the reason women are behaving in this manner. The effect it has on the psyche of women is the same no matter what culture or religion they happen to be a member.

White America does not have a history of rampant fornication. In fact, our Christian history is the exact opposite. Personally, I blame leftist egalitarianism and socialism for promoting secularism and moral relativism that has led to the rise in permiscuous sex in America. Marx could be blamed for egalitarianism..Marx was a Jew...Therefore, Jews could share blame too. But instead of blaming groups I prefer to blame simply the act of fornication itself for the current madness we see in women.

Fornication is the problem...PERIOD

If you want a nice girl....you're going to have to find a religious girl. That is a difficult task nowadays. It might be easier if you were living in Israel in a religious community.

[Fruit of thy loins]

Fruit of thy loins

There is validity in a lot of the points that you made...I myself am an Anglo-Saxon Protestant Christian American (maybe my username is deceptive...but I sure do love the concept of Din Rodef)

There is no need to overthink this...

Fornication is the reason women are behaving in this manner. The effect it has on the psyche of women is the same no matter what culture or religion they happen to be a member.

White America does not have a history of rampant fornication. In fact, our Christian history is the exact opposite. Personally, I blame leftist egalitarianism and socialism for promoting secularism and moral relativism that has led to the rise in permiscuous sex in America. Marx could be blamed for egalitarianism..Marx was a Jew...Therefore, Jews could share blame too. But instead of blaming groups I prefer to blame simply the act of fornication itself for the current madness we see in women.

Fornication is the problem...PERIOD

If you want a nice girl....you're going to have to find a religious girl. That is a difficult task nowadays. It might be easier if you were living in Israel in a religious community.

Well ... as much as I would like to, I have no right to live in Israel.

I live in England, the alma mater of the Wasps ... if you want to see how far we've fallen from grace, too, read some of the stories about teen pregnancy on www.dailymail.co.uk ... 12 and 14 year old girls with babies ... basically Britain has no future if these people start forming the majority.

And yes, I agree, their fornication spoils them forever.  However the media and the educators don't advocate abstinence.  The best they can do is hand out free condoms to children.

Anglo peoples are under a curse.  I don't see these problems anywhere else.  Other European countries like Scandinavia have been in a state of sexual immoral decay for a long time and it's the least of their problems.

[Din Rodef]

Well ... as much as I would like to, I have no right to live in Israel.

Are you a Jew?

[Lisa]

Personally, I blame leftist egalitarianism and socialism for promoting secularism and moral relativism that has led to the rise in permiscuous sex in America. Marx could be blamed for egalitarianism..Marx was a Jew...Therefore, Jews could share blame too. But instead of blaming groups I prefer to blame simply the act of fornication itself for the current madness we see in women.

I agree completely, Din Rodef.

One thing I would also like to add is that there is a tremendous amount of pressure on young women to shed their modesty and to go with lots of men.  The author Wendy Shalit wrote all about it in her EXCELLENT book A Return to Modesty.  

For one thing, since so many women do put by the third date, or sooner, many men see sex as a right.  And such men will not want to go with an old fashioned girl, when they can get sex from another girl right off the bat.  So that puts some young women in a bind -- either put out or be repeatedly rejected.

And this pressure doesn't just come from other young people either. 

I remember one time (a long long time ago) going to this gynecologist.  These doctors routinely ask women what they do in the way of birth control.  So when I told the doctor that I had never been intimate with a man, he looked at me as though I had just cursed out his mother, and said "you're WHAT?!?!?"

So I guess what I'm getting at is that it's hard for women of all ages, as well as for men. 

Maybe you guys need to volunteer for some good causes or go to right wing events as opposed to bars/pubs.  There are guarantees, but at least you might find like minded friends.

[Fruit of thy loins]

I agree completely, Din Rodef.

One thing I would also like to add is that there is a tremendous amount of pressure on young women to shed their modesty and to go with lots of men.  The author Wendy Shalit wrote all about it in her EXCELLENT book A Return to Modesty.  

For one thing, since so many women do put by the third date, or sooner, many men see sex as a right.  And such men will not want to go with an old fashioned girl, when they can get sex from another girl right off the bat.  So that puts some young women in a bind -- either put out or be repeatedly rejected.

And this pressure doesn't just come from other young people either. 

I remember one time (a long long time ago) going to this gynecologist.  These doctors routinely ask women what they do in the way of birth control.  So when I told the doctor that I had never been intimate with a man, he looked at me as though I had just cursed out his mother, and said "you're WHAT?!?!?"

So I guess what I'm getting at is that it's hard for women of all ages, as well as for men. 

Maybe you guys need to volunteer for some good causes or go to right wing events as opposed to bars/pubs.  There are guarantees, but at least you might find like minded friends.

Whether or not women like sex, or whether they pretend to because the popular culture demands it (the popular culture demands people to say many stupid things in the course of the day just to get by), I don't know.  If it is true that women like sex as much as men, then to not have sex for women is just as much of a repression as it is for men.  And regardless of how salutary the intentions of the repression are, there is no hiding the fact that G-d made the sexual instinct the strongest instinct inside of us and the energy that demands release in sex will find other ways to manifest itself if one does not have sex.

All manner of neuroses, complexes, anxieties, are symptoms of a person not finding adequate sexual relief in their daily routine.

If however, as I suspect, women prefer sex for social rather than physical reasons, then that complicates matters greatly.  It would really mean that the woman is the higher being spiritually.  That would be the good news.  The bad news it that it means our current situation, where women are sexualized from an early age, is really tragic - tragic as in civilization-ending, apocalyptically tragic.

I interpret the Noahide commandment for gentiles to be sexually moral as advocating birth control and I support it.  However, careful sex which avoids unwanted pregnancy and disease cannot be considered bad for people who have no particular purpose in life.

[Joe Gutfeld]

Hey Fruit!  What does what you are posting on this post have to do with my first post on this topic, Why was Chaim standing up doing this week's shows?

[Sarah]

lol Joe, its nearing sunday. Its the only way you'll get a decent answer. I'm sorry, i don't know why he was standing either, its rather odd? Maybe he just simply felt like it, who knows?

Maybe he'd fall asleep otherwise
Or maybe it had something to do with him being slightly drunk-although he didnt seem to be.
There could be a million reasons, best ask him yourself.