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Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« on: December 28, 2008, 01:51:52 PM »
The following is an exclusive Press TV interview with US congressman Ron Paul, a unique conservative politician who wants an end to US military presence on foreign soil, advocates US withdrawal from the UN, NATO and the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and opposes the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).
Ron Paul, House representative of the 14th district of Texas, believes that US foreign policy must be reformed to avoid conflicts around the world.

The interview was conducted outside the Foreign Relations Committee.

Press TV: What is your opinion on the idea of the US blocking Iran's oil exports and preventing its gasoline imports from reaching the country (based on H. Con. Res. 362 previously sought by US congressmen)?

Paul: I think it is an outrage I think it is a blockade. It is the use of force to stop the inflow of petroleum products and people and goods, banking, trains, cars, trucks, cargos. It's all prohibited. How can we stop that without the use of the navy and without the use of force? This idea is not a blockade it is just pure silliness on their part [US senators and congressmen].

If we bomb them, that's the start of hostilities. They (US policy makers) are never willing to take anything off the table, which includes a nuclear-first strike. So, if they do that do you think the Iranians are going to sit still? They are going to react!

The opposition said that, well, we don't want them to block the Strait of Hormuz [the Persian Gulf waterway which allows the passages of a third of the world's daily oil supply]. They ought to change their policy because they are more likely to get the Strait of Hormuz blocked if we persist on this. If we do any bombing or we put on a blockade, it's going to lead to big trouble.

Press TV: There has been a lot of speculation that Israel may act on its own and conduct an independent air strike on Iran's nuclear facilities. Do you think that's possible?

Paul: I don't think there is such a thing as an independent Israel doing anything, because I think no matter what they do its our money, its our weapons, and their not going to do it without us approving it and if they get into trouble we're going to bail them out, so there is no separation between the two.

Press TV: During your line of questioning at the Foreign Relations Committee you mentioned the Seymour Hersh article, which was among the articles that revealed that the Congress had awarded the Bush administration hundreds of millions of dollars for a covert operation to overthrow the Iranian government. Why did you mention those stories?

Paul: Well it's something that I have known about and heard about and it does go on. It goes on all around the world. To me it was a surprise that it was news, because we have been doing that and people do talk about it. I think it's an outrage. How would we react if somebody did it to us? We would be infuriated, willing to go to war. The fact that somebody came and tried to undermine our government.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=79752&sectionid=3510302

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2008, 01:57:11 PM »
Ron Paul, this is treason!  >:(
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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2008, 02:37:02 PM »
First off, let me say I don't like Ron Paul.  He's no friend of Israel. 


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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2008, 02:50:59 PM »
This is the creature that our former Retard-in-Chief's good friend and admin, Archie, supports.

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2008, 02:59:20 PM »
I'm not a fan of Ron Paul but he's right Israel has to ask every country in the world before it does anything
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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2008, 03:01:24 PM »
This is the creature that our former Retard-in-Chief's good friend and admin, Archie, supports.

It's a little more complicated than that.

He was banned from Yaakov's forum, so I wouldn't call him a "good friend" of Yaakov's.  He was a comrade of Yaakov for a while - partners in crime against JTF, but Archie came out as anti-kahanist and somewhat of a Hitler sympathizer.. so Yaakov let Yehudit know, and gave her the decision, and Yehudit promptly banned him from their forum.

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2008, 03:02:24 PM »
This is the creature that our former Retard-in-Chief's good friend and admin, Archie, supports.

That not quite true

It's more complicated than that.

He was banned from Yaakov's forum, so I wouldn't call him a "good friend" of Yaakov's.  He was a comrade of Yaakov for a while - partners in crime against JTF, but Archie came out as anti-kahanist and somewhat of a Hitler sympathizer.. so Yaakov let Yehudit know, and gave her the decision, and Yehudit promptly banned him from their forum.

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2008, 03:09:21 PM »
Ron Paul is an apslute Nut Case. Screw Him he is not a Republican
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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2008, 03:28:50 PM »
It's a little more complicated than that.

He was banned from Yaakov's forum, so I wouldn't call him a "good friend" of Yaakov's.  He was a comrade of Yaakov for a while - partners in crime against JTF, but Archie came out as anti-kahanist and somewhat of a Hitler sympathizer.. so Yaakov let Yehudit know, and gave her the decision, and Yehudit promptly banned him from their forum.
No, Archie was supposedly banned (which probably meant just told to keep a low profile) when Chaim, DownwithIslam, and I were talking here about how he appoints Nazis as mods on his forum just because they hate JTF.

And while we are at it, I strongly suspect that Lubab was right, and that Mills was in cahoots with Tina Greco all along.

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2008, 03:30:49 PM »
C.F. What the hell does this have to do with the topic?
Nothing

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2008, 03:40:22 PM »
C.F. What the hell does this have to do with the topic?
Nothing
Just that Archie is a big Ron Paul fan. In fact, he turned against JTF when he found out we oppose Paul.

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2008, 04:18:57 PM »
Isn't Ron Paul saying what JTF says: that foreign aid is tantamount to welfare?  JTF says Israel should not be dependent on the US, because then they basically need or are always seeking the US's approval/favor for everything they do.

Is this not what Paul is saying?  Isn't this what JTF believes?  And is trying to change?   Paul is just saying what the situation currently is.  Here is the quote:

Paul: "I don't think there is such a thing as an independent Israel doing anything, because I think no matter what they do its our money, its our weapons, and their not going to do it without us approving it and if they get into trouble we're going to bail them out, so there is no separation between the two."
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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2008, 07:39:43 PM »
Ron Paul, this is treason!  >:(

treason against who?

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2008, 08:12:26 PM »
Ron Paul is as clueless as Obama.  He may occasionally get something correct but he's really nothing more than a looney and a fossil.

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Re: Paul: No such thing as an independent Israel
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2008, 06:51:36 AM »
Ron Paul, this is treason!  >:(

treason against who?

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Well it's something that I have known about and heard about and it does go on. It goes on all around the world. To me it was a surprise that it was news, because we have been doing that and people do talk about it. I think it's an outrage.
The arch-quranimal in Teheran wants to murder milliones of Jews and Americans and Ron Paul said, to remove this lunatic is "outrage".

t_h_j how do you define treason? R.P. is siding with the arch-quranimal against his fellow people. It is obvious.
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