The real enemy

[copt]

I think that it is not wise to get in conflict with the new president. USA has already its agenda, and noone can change it not even the president.

I understand that his Islamic background may affect his way with dealing with the Middle East's issues such as the Israeli-Arab conflict, but Obama will never risk his political future by supporting Muslims while we have a war on terrorism. Plus, Muslims will try to test him soon by attacking any US valuable targets and then he will have no choice either he be restricted with them or the people of US will kick him out of the white house.
Don't forget my dear friends that Obama is a politician and he knows the rules of the game.

During our war with ISLAM, we need to know that the military conflict will not resolve the situation in the Middle East or even here in the States. We don't fight a regular war, we fight against an idea. We fight against a religion.

As long as Muslims have their Quran, the book of hate, this war will not end. Muslims teach their kids how to hate. Hate is the code word here. They will keep fighting generation of generation.

Even if Israel got to sign peace agreements with all Arab and Muslim countries, they will be on the governmental level. If you look at the agreement between Israel and Egypt, you will be able to see what I mean. The majority of the Egyptian people hates Israel and they want to fight again just for reason and one reason only " ISLAM ".

Muslims don't have the concept of homeland or a country; They have only the concept of religion. They believe that they have to fight for their G-d. Muslims consider non-Muslims enemies of their G-d not their enemies, but their G-d's enemies, and that is the real problem.

We need to create an Arab generation that does not hate or at least has the ability of accepting the others.
The only way to do that is the education and the media. It will take years and years, but if we don't start now, our children will not forgive us.

If you have any comment, please feel free to email me at [email protected]

[zachor_ve_kavod]

Islam means "to submit".  A muslim is one who submits.  There are no muslims without islam.  There can be arabs without islam.  I don't really get what you are asking.

[SavetheWest]

Obama is not just on the side of Muslims because of his ancestry, it's because of his political ideology.  His education was socialist and a belief that giveaways and government solve all problems.  He has not run a hot dog stand and has always had government/activist jobs.  The left is always on the side of Al Qaeda, Armed Islamic Group, The Muslim Brotherhood, etc. unless they are attacking leftists.  Attacking Israel and the USA is part of their creed and the Muslims are the best tools to destroy both so of course Muslims and the left are allies. Look at green socialism in Turkey.  Any "war on terror" by Obama is a joke and an attempt to placate the right in the next election.  He is an evil man with an evil agenda and anyone who voted or supported him is a cursed person.

[The One and Only Mo]

I think that it is not wise to get in conflict with the new president. USA has already its agenda, and noone can change it not even the president.

I understand that his Islamic background may affect his way with dealing with the Middle East's issues such as the Israeli-Arab conflict, but Obama will never risk his political future by supporting Muslims while we have a war on terrorism. Plus, Muslims will try to test him soon by attacking any US valuable targets and then he will have no choice either he be restricted with them or the people of US will kick him out of the white house.
Don't forget my dear friends that Obama is a politician and he knows the rules of the game.

During our war with ISLAM, we need to know that the military conflict will not resolve the situation in the Middle East or even here in the States. We don't fight a regular war, we fight against an idea. We fight against a religion.

As long as Muslims have their Quran, the book of hate, this war will not end. Muslims teach their kids how to hate. Hate is the code word here. They will keep fighting generation of generation.

Even if Israel got to sign peace agreements with all Arab and Muslim countries, they will be on the governmental level. If you look at the agreement between Israel and Egypt, you will be able to see what I mean. The majority of the Egyptian people hates Israel and they want to fight again just for reason and one reason only " ISLAM ".

Muslims don't have the concept of homeland or a country; They have only the concept of religion. They believe that they have to fight for their G-d. Muslims consider non-Muslims enemies of their G-d not their enemies, but their G-d's enemies, and that is the real problem.

We need to create an Arab generation that does not hate or at least has the ability of accepting the others.
The only way to do that is the education and the media. It will take years and years, but if we don't start now, our children will not forgive us.

If you have any comment, please feel free to email me at [email protected]

I like this piece. Do you mind if I post it in my Facebook notes?

[Zelhar]

Copt is VERY VERY wrong. There is no way to educate the muslims. They shield themselves from any influence and incite their minions right from the moment of their birth. Islam needs to be isolated. Effected areas must either be purged from Islam or otherwise cut off from uninfected ones.

When muslims goes to war against us, they must be dealt with extreme retaliation with the aim of inflicting maximal casualties to them.

I think that it is not wise to get in conflict with the new president. USA has already its agenda, and noone can change it not even the president.

Haven't anyone noticed how the poxy muslims always gets their wishes by ranting and threatening, while Israel always tries to be nice and polite and gets screwed ?
Anyway we shouldn't expect anything good to come out of the new Zombie chief who has attended a muslim church for 20 years. What should be done is to realize that and stop begging this beats for help.

[Ulli]

Copt is VERY VERY wrong. There is no way to educate the muslims. They shield themselves from any influence and incite their minions right from the moment of their birth. Islam needs to be isolated. Effected areas must either be purged from Islam or otherwise cut off from uninfected ones.

When muslims goes to war against us, they must be dealt with extreme retaliation with the aim of inflicting maximal casualties to them.

I think that it is not wise to get in conflict with the new president. USA has already its agenda, and noone can change it not even the president.

Haven't anyone noticed how the poxy muslims always gets their wishes by ranting and threatening, while Israel always tries to be nice and polite and gets screwed ?
Anyway we shouldn't expect anything good to come out of the new Zombie chief who has attended a muslim church for 20 years. What should be done is to realize that and stop begging this beats for help.

Yes I agree totally. Zelhar, this is the only way it works.

Muslims are no normal people with sanity and reason. Methodes that would work with normal people are not working with Muslims.

They understand only violence. This is their language.

[Kerber]

Followers of Islam or Muslims are a trigger.There is some one who made the trigger and who's holding it and pulling it.

You should fight supporters of it.

[Rubystars]

If every American knew the true origins of Islam and what its founder was like, many of them would support Muslims anyway, but I think most would oppose Islam gaining ground here.

[GoIsraelGo!]

Islam means "to submit".  A muslim is one who submits.  There are no muslims without islam.  There can be arabs without islam.  I don't really get what you are asking.

Zachor, the Muslims keep Islam going. Islam cannot be eliminated without going to the source first.
If you got rid of Islam, you still have over 1 billion enraged Muzzies.



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[Manch]

Islam means "to submit".  A muslim is one who submits.  There are no muslims without islam.  There can be arabs without islam.  I don't really get what you are asking.

Zachor, the Muslims keep Islam going. Islam cannot be eliminated without going to the source first.
If you got rid of Islam, you still have over 1 billion enraged Muzzies.

                                                                                      Shalom - Dox

These bastards are perpetually enraged. Getting rid of islam will take care of this problem as well.

[New Yorker]

The problem is Islam, it is a irrational death cult, if all the arabs were, for example, Christians, they'd be normal civilized people.

[GoIsraelGo!]

Islam means "to submit".  A muslim is one who submits.  There are no muslims without islam.  There can be arabs without islam.  I don't really get what you are asking.

Zachor, the Muslims keep Islam going. Islam cannot be eliminated without going to the source first.
If you got rid of Islam, you still have over 1 billion enraged Muzzies.

                                                                                      Shalom - Dox

These bastards are perpetually enraged. Getting rid of islam will take care of this problem as well.

Hi Manch, since Islam is embedded into their brains it is impossible to get rid of Islam. Muzzies are going to have to be wiped out before they think twice about dumping Islam.
You can take away their Korans, their Mosques, but the Muzzies will continue to murder, rape, destroy and create havoc wherever they go.
Islam without Moslems is nothing. Islam was invented by Arabs, Mohamed being the cult founder.
Islam is only a word.
Moslems are the action behind it all, I say they must go since they cannot be deprogrammed.


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[Dr. Dan]

If we were to judge behavior and culture, it would be Islam which would need to be eliminated because it is a religion that teaches evil behavior and culture.

While a muslim is someone who practices Islam, eliminating muslims doesn't eliminate Islam...Islam is the source to which creates Muslims..therefore, it's Islam which needs to be destroyed.

[Muck DeFuslims]

This is kind of like the which came first - the chicken or the egg - argument.

Get rid of Islam, then there's no mooozies.

Get rid of all mooozies, then there's no Islam.

Just to be sure, get rid of both.

I've heard similar discussions concerning Arabs and Islam.

The argument can be made if it wasn't for the Arabs, there'd be no Islam.

Then again, even if there was no Islam, the Arabian wild asses would come up with some other travesty to hoist upon mankind.

[GoIsraelGo!]

If we were to judge behavior and culture, it would be Islam which would need to be eliminated because it is a religion that teaches evil behavior and culture.

While a muslim is someone who practices Islam, eliminating muslims doesn't eliminate Islam...Islam is the source to which creates Muslims..therefore, it's Islam which needs to be destroyed.

How do you destroy Islam when you have 1.5 billion Moslems who live and die for it? 


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[zachor_ve_kavod]

We have to raise their living standards.  JUST KIDDING, JUST KIDDING!!!

Seriously though, what could work.  I think the best bet is to make oil worthless.  Of all possible options, this one has the best chance of working.  I have just a few thoughts about this:

1.  The oil countries don't produce or create anything.  Their whole economy is based upon their geography.  They happen to be sitting upon oil and this sustains their economy.  They have nothing else.

2.  If oil wasn't worth anything, the arab countries would have no economies.  This means that they would either disappear or they would adapt.  To adapt, they would need to undergo an epistemological change (a change of mindset).  They would have to modernize.  To do that, they would need to discard the koran, which keeps them perpetually in the darkness.  To adapt, they would need to put some effort into creating an economy that is based on producing, on developing enterprises and skills and value.

If they undergo through this process of modernization,  they will have to give up their destructive ways.  There is no other way for them to adapt. 

Either way, whether those countries disappear or they adapt, all of the fangs would be taken out of those societies.

By the way, there is some evidence to support this theory.  Indonesia, which has the largest muslim population on earth, does not have oil.  They have had to create an economy based on production like the rest of us.  Comparatively, the jihadi threat from Indonesia is far less than the jihadi threat from oil rich countries.

You know the saying about idle hands?  Well, that what the koran does.  That's what oil based economies do.  Get rid of oil, and you'll solve the problem.

[copt]

We need to understand that Muslims are just humans, but they are infected with ISLAM. Islam is just like HIV. We as civilized human beings should not hate a person for being sick. We may hate the virus he/she has, but not the person him/herself.
A lot of Muslims convert to any peaceful religion when they recognize what they are suffering just for being infected with ISLAM.
If we start to hate them just for being infected with this virus, we are not better than them then.
Conflicts and wars will not resolve the situation. War kills the host not the virus. Take it from a soldier, war will not change what we have. It will be just like a temporary pain killer.
99% of Arab countries' education systems have been designed to insure that the new generations will be able to HATE.
Moreover, The Arabic Media continues the same mission. Plus the religious leaders at the Islamic world.
Politicians can't change that because they will lose no matter what. Simply, they can't get with conflict with their people.
However, The States and Europe can put more pressure on the Muslims countries to change what they teach.
That will be a good start. One small step, but it is one the right way. 

[GoIsraelGo!]

We need to understand that Muslims are just humans, but they are infected with ISLAM. Islam is just like HIV. We as civilized human beings should not hate a person for being sick. We may hate the virus he/she has, but not the person him/herself.
A lot of Muslims convert to any peaceful religion when they recognize what they are suffering just for being infected with ISLAM.
If we start to hate them just for being infected with this virus, we are not better than them then.
Conflicts and wars will not resolve the situation. War kills the host not the virus. Take it from a soldier, war will not change what we have. It will be just like a temporary pain killer.
99% of Arab countries' education systems have been designed to insure that the new generations will be able to HATE.
Moreover, The Arabic Media continues the same mission. Plus the religious leaders at the Islamic world.
Politicians can't change that because they will lose no matter what. Simply, they can't get with conflict with their people.
However, The States and Europe can put more pressure on the Muslims countries to change what they teach.
That will be a good start. One small step, but it is one the right way. 

Hello and welcome to the Forum. Islam is a dictatorship that is 1,500 years old. Moslems cannot be deprogrammed.
Moslems were born to serve Islam. If a Moslem turns away from Islam, that is their death sentence.
Moslems do not have any wish to change. Moslems do not have the ability to think for themselves.
Islam has robbed them of their identities.
Moslems enslave other Moslems, slavery in Africa is one example.
Moslems use their children as weapons, Hamas trains them as early as age 2 to become homocide bombers.
Moslems are trained from the cradle to ( lie ) to the infidels, therefore anything you hear coming from a Moslem is a lie.
Moslems thrive on their hatred to keep Islam running smoothly. Example: a car needs a battery to run.


P.S. Humans do not put their children in the line of fire, so your comment about them being human is incorrect.
Wild animals go out of their way to protect their young, what does this say about Moslems who use their children as weapons?

[Nik_Srb]

Followers of Islam or Muslims are a trigger.There is some one who made the trigger and who's holding it and pulling it.

You should fight supporters of it.

agree with what Kerber wanted to say

[GoIsraelGo!]

Followers of Islam or Muslims are a trigger.There is some one who made the trigger and who's holding it and pulling it.

You should fight supporters of it.

1.5 billion Moslems support terrorism. The Moslems have this saying that you have all heard hundreds of times,
" it is only a few terrorists " that make us look bad. THIS IS A LIE!
Think, if Moslems were really as peaceful as they claim...the Moslems would have killed off the terrorists long ago.
Moslems then resort to their second biggest lie " We are afraid ! " This is just not true.
radical Moslems banded together by the millions to dispose of the Shah. Millions of Moslems seemed to have the courage
when it came to defending Islam and radicalizing Iran. When there is a will, the Moslems find a way....
ask Moslems a question, you get lies and excuses.


Moslems are liars, in fact in Islam it is considered an honor to lie to the infidel.
Moslems are the only people on earth who can so cruelly behead someone
and then shout allah ackbar ... Moslems are worse than animals, this is not bigotry...it's the plain truth.


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[Raulmarrio2000]

I won't vote. It is true that Islam is a virus and most Arabs and some other nations are infected with it. But we have always dealt with potentially dangerous diseases which are harmless if treated on time. The real problem here is not Islam or Muslims, but anti-Semites who have deliberately let Islam grow just to harm the Jews. A small fire is potentially dangerous but can be easily be estinguished by firemen. The real  problem would be if the firemen themselves are full of hate and throw gasoline instead of water!!!

[copt]

Well, I agree with you at some point. However, history lessons say that war never destroy an idea. you can't kill Islam with M-4 or bomb it with B-52.
I'm a soldier and I've got my degree in History as well. A lot of kings tried to destroy it by sward, but they could not.
If you look at France, you will see what I mean. Since the first Crusade till a few years before the french revolution , France stood high for Muslims in battle fields, but now Muslims are very close to control France.
They attack the western civilization from inside. They have stared reading the history and they realized that AK 47 and C4 are not the only weapons in this war.
We need to know that weapons never destroy any Idea, but it makes it stronger specially with Muslims.
War is the core of Islam, and it is what they are looking for. Be smart and don't give them what they are looking for because simply they don't appreciate the human life and they want to die.
We will never wine a war against a man who wants to die and he does not even care about his/her children.
If they want to have a war, lets give them a war, but not against us. Lets get them to fight each others. As everybody here knows that Muslims even hate each others and I believe it is very easy to start a war between them and it will take years and years to stop. When you go fishing, don't get into the water to get a shark, just stay in the boat and get it.
     

[New Yorker]

" ...you can't kill Islam with M-4 or bomb it with B-52. '

Correct, to kill Islam, it would require a nuke. Always use the right tool for the job I always say.   

[Dan]

" ...you can't kill Islam with M-4 or bomb it with B-52. '

Correct, to kill Islam, it would require a nuke. Always use the right tool for the job I always say.   

 

[ChaimBenMordechai]

As far as I'm concerned, self-hating liberal Jews are just as bad as Muslims