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HOW LOW can Obama go? Killing Seniors??
« on: February 10, 2009, 01:38:28 PM »


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Just How Low Have Democrats Sunk – Is Killing Seniors Now Not Beyond Limits?
 By Yomin Postelnik  Tuesday, February 10, 2009


This is despicable.  And as a writer who prefers calm and reflective analysis, when such a course is possible, I’m shocked at having to write the above headline.  But far more important than mannerism is the profound obligation of every citizen and active US resident to scream out against the despicable “healthcare” provisions in the “Stimulus” Bill.

The so-called “Stimulus Bill” has in it a provision to establish a “National Coordinator of Health Information Technology.” The Coordinator would primarily establish cost cutting guidelines that doctors would be bound to follow or face penalties determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. 

Abysmal nature of Canada’s health care in general, seniors suffer the worst
England has also taken steps to destroy healthcare for the elderly and to concentrate all resources (which are extremely limited - being a government run bureaucratic nightmare that does not incentivize doctors) on the young and able.  Those who’ve paid into the system for their entire lives are now viewed as useless burdens, not as human beings.  In Canada, cuts to seniors are less pronounced.  They are simply built into the system.  The result: An average wait of 14 months for a hip operation.  And that’s just a minor example.  Despite the abysmal nature of Canada’s health care in general, seniors suffer the worst.

A lot of the health policies that somehow made their way into a package that’s purported to deal with “economic stimulus” were written with the advice of Tom Daschle (no, evil doesn’t just walk away).  Daschle’s book on health care states that seniors should sacrifice advancements in care so that resources can be spent primarily on the young.  The free market system that values and encourages advancements for young and old alike has no place in the heart of a man who, were it not for a matter of back taxes, would have fancied himself the Grinch Who Stole Healthcare. 

It gets worse.  Daschle goes on to say that those who have received what he terms “hopeless diagnoses” should just accept it.  According to the man whose antics in the Senate earned him the distinction of being the only party leader to be voted out of that body since 1950, Americans should “forego experimental treatment” and adopt a more European attitude of acceptance. 

That resilience in fighting disease has helped save the lives of many tens of thousands who’ve received dire prognoses from doctors is of no interest to Daschle.  Nor is the fact that smart Europeans do not just give up.  They seek alternative treatments, something that do in part because of the fact that their standard medical system is too inadequate to be relied upon.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill
And instead of using those views to gain acceptance to a mental institution of his choice, Tom Daschle wants them enacted as policy.  We already know who was receptive to his views; some man who promised hope and change and who did not tell us that those involved killing seniors and the very ill.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill.  And the Democrats in the Senate, including Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Arlen Specter and the two nitwits from Maine are too stupid or too reckless to put up a fuss.  We, as citizens of the United States of America, can’t be.  Our nation was founded on better morals than this. 

The Democrats have declared war on the elderly.  And they will suffer the shame of history as a result. 

These are not compassionate people.  These are not good people.  These are despicable and outrageous beasts and the time has come to finally call them what they are. 

Here America, here are the “leaders” you just elected.  Cry and pray, but also take action.  This nation was built on better stuff than that.

It’s a sad day when even columnists who’ve engaged “liberals” (henceforth to be called fascists) in dialogue and discussion, end up having to sound like Michael Savage, who, quite frankly, seems to be right about the uproar he’s been raising for years.  But it would be an even sadder day if no one spoke up in outrage against this brutality. 

To paraphrase Martin Niemöller:

First they came for the elderly, but I was not elderly, so I did not care.
Then they came for the disabled, but I was not disabled, so I did not care.
Then they came for the infirm, but I was not infirm, so I did not care.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to stand up. 

I may be 31 years old, but as someone who served as a chaplain in hospitals and who’s worked with the elderly, I see the difference between the care given in this country and the abject neglect that is the hallmark of the system in other countries with government run and government rationed so-called “health care” that is anything but.  We cannot bring that to America.

This is America.  We fight back.
To readers: One message: ACT

- Call radio show hosts, especially Dr. Laura, who will likely mobilize her active listening audience of mothers, daughters and concerned listeners to act against this atrocity.

- Call your congressmen and senators and express your profound outrage at a National Coordinator of Health Information Technology whose system can be used to “penalize doctors who do not submit its cost cutting guidelines.”

- With regard to whoever is nominated to the position of “Health and Human” Services: Start a letter campaign to them as soon as he or she is nominated, to withdraw from consideration due to reprehensible acts that the Obama administration is seeking to perform in the area of “healthcare.” No reputable person should agree to head a department that under this plan would in effect be a Department of Killing the Elderly.

- Understand that the party of Hubert Humphrey, Lyndon Johnson, John F. Kennedy and Scoop Jackson is no more.  It’s been co-opted by the same radical lunatics whose German and Russian ideological cousins brought untold devastation to their countries and is supported by hapless fools who do not know enough to speak out even against this.

This is America.  We don’t take kindly to destroying health care for the elderly.  More to the point: We don’t take kindly to people proposing to kill the elderly.  This is America.  We fight back.  So please, right now, speak up and act! 

 
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http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8345

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Re: HOW LOW can Obama go? Killing Seniors??
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2009, 02:51:56 PM »
The situation in Israel, unfortunately, is not any better
My father has Cancer,
Few months ago when he had to get alot of complicated treatments he had to wait so much time,
because of bureaucrats.
Thanks to god, he is alright now, he had gotten his treatments and he restored his health.
and this is only one of millions of cases, our Health insurance is so bad,
there are thousands of people who dont have money to buy their medicine because its too expensive, and the government just doesnt help them.

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2009, 03:18:16 PM »
The same discussion was in Germany too. Some evil politicans said that the contributions of the forced health insurence should be contributed according to the rest lifetime of the patient.

In clear language this means, that older people who was forced to pay their whole life into this gouvernmental insurence would get nothing in return if they are old.

This is the way this bolschewik public health systems work.

I hate it! If they would be free to take the money to a bank, that they paid to the gouvernental system, their lifes could be saved.

It is so criminal  :'(
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2009, 08:43:02 PM »
This is a concrete example of what happens when you restrict free enterprise, thereby making it socialist.  Doctors will face losing their licenses by giving treatment that isn't budgeted.  This is a win for the insurance companies.

There was a case last year that made it all the way to the supreme court of Manitoba.  Doctors did not want to continue life support for an elderly Jewish man.  The man's children refused to pull the plug, because they were Orthodox Jews.  They got an injunction that forced the hospital to continue life support for their father.  The hospital complied begrudgingly.  Eventually the man died before legal precedent was made.

In Obama's system, not only would the man not have been entitled to life support, the doctors would face losing their license and possible criminal charges if they were to provide such life support.  I didn't think this could happen in America.

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2009, 09:27:08 PM »
I am worried about this because my husband and I are getting older (he is 52, I am almost 50). G-d forbid that I should say this, but my mother died last year and in a way it is good she did not have to live to experience this.

She was 82 and very sick, but they would have just let her die!

Baruch Hashem I am in good health (kinnehora), but my husband is not and I suppose it is up to us to make sure we stay as healthy as we can!
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KILLING SENIORS, THE UNBORN AND SENDING 20 MIL TO GARZA FOR MIGRATION TO U.S
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2009, 10:05:39 PM »

Obama opening floodgates by inviting Hamas to “migrate” to the U.S.A.?
 By Judi McLeod & Michael Travis  Thursday, February 5, 2009


On his first official day in the White House, President Barack Obama was on the horn to President Mahmoud Abbas.

“The spokesman for President Abbas revealed that Mr. Obama had told the Palestinian leader that their conversation was his first with a foreign statesman since taking office.” (TimesOnLine, Jan. 22, 2009).

Some thought that first call to the leader of the Palestinian authority was for spite.  Others for statesman like reasons, still others for appeasement.

Given that a clip from Al-Jazeera televised Hamas-controlled Palestinians “burning up the phone bank from Gaza” to rally support for his presidential campaign, perhaps the telephone call was made out of gratitude.

Seven days later on January 27, President Obama signed Presidential Determination No. 2009-15, which allocates $20.3 million for Palestinian migration and refugee assistance.

Today a memo sent by President Obama to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton seems to invite Hamas to “migrate” into the United States of America

The presidential determination covers the “Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related to Gaza.”

“By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 2(c)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 (the “Act”), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I hereby determine, pursuant to section 2 (c) (1) of the Act, that it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration needs, including by contributions to international, governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and payment of administrative expenses of Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza. (Italics CFP’s).

“You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register,” President Obama instructs t he new Secretary of State.

Two days before Obama’s inauguration, Israel began pulling its troops out of Gaza.

One week after his inauguration, President Obama designated $20.3 million to the Palestinians in Gaza.

What security measures are in place to keep Hamas terrorists from gaining free access into the U.S.?

“Is President Obama opening the floodgates and inviting Hamas to “migrate” to the U.S.A.?

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Does this look like America to YOU?
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The islamofacist are doing this all over the world. They move into large cities, strain the social service systems, strain the police and court systems, then they start trying to enfocre thir own religious laws on the real citizens of the community.
It is a war and we ( the government and the media) have their heads stuck up their backsides and refuse to even see it....

 

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Re: HOW LOW can Obama go? Killing Seniors??
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2009, 10:47:45 PM »
Hussein is JUST GETTING STARTED
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 12:26:26 AM »
As evil as this is, it should be a lesson for middle-aged Americans to do everything possible to preserve their health for as much and as long as possible. Most aging-related illnesses are at least somewhat controllable/preventable/postponable. People should exercise, eat healthy diets, and challenge themselves to be active even when achy, tired, or lazy and do not feel like it.

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 09:09:49 AM »
As evil as this is, it should be a lesson for middle-aged Americans to do everything possible to preserve their health for as much and as long as possible. Most aging-related illnesses are at least somewhat controllable/preventable/postponable. People should exercise, eat healthy diets, and challenge themselves to be active even when achy, tired, or lazy and do not feel like it.

I've been doing all of that, strictly, for the past 10 years. Even before that, I tried to eat healthy all the time (no sodas, no white bread, you know the drill).
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 09:17:32 AM »
As evil as this is, it should be a lesson for middle-aged Americans to do everything possible to preserve their health for as much and as long as possible. Most aging-related illnesses are at least somewhat controllable/preventable/postponable. People should exercise, eat healthy diets, and challenge themselves to be active even when achy, tired, or lazy and do not feel like it.

I've been doing all of that, strictly, for the past 10 years. Even before that, I tried to eat healthy all the time (no sodas, no white bread, you know the drill).
HA! You didnt say no Mcdonalds!!!

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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2009, 10:07:30 AM »
Fox had Betsy Mcaughey  on Fox  exposing Socialized Medicine Buried in Obama’s stimulus plan this morning. Maybe this will help open the eyes of dumb Americans.

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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2009, 10:38:51 AM »
While attempting to stay healthy is essential.  It is not a fail safe.  Many illnesses come on as a result of heredity and age.  Very hard to fight that.  I often see people who did the right things their whole life, end up in the hospital with heart disease.

Just wait until they actually start denying care based on age.   :o  It's going to be a rude awakening for the sleeping giant.
I take it back.  This country is no longer the sleeping giant, it is more like an imbecile sleeping.


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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 12:02:49 PM »
(no sodas, no white bread, you know the drill).
Sodas and white bread aren't necessarily terrible, they just don't help you at all either. I definitely do my best to eat  just whole-grain breads and I only drink sodas when absolutely nothing else is around.

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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 01:58:37 PM »
Thank you all the senior citizens who voted for this communist. You earned that knife in your back.
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 10:16:55 PM »
As evil as this is, it should be a lesson for middle-aged Americans to do everything possible to preserve their health for as much and as long as possible. Most aging-related illnesses are at least somewhat controllable/preventable/postponable. People should exercise, eat healthy diets, and challenge themselves to be active even when achy, tired, or lazy and do not feel like it.

I've been doing all of that, strictly, for the past 10 years. Even before that, I tried to eat healthy all the time (no sodas, no white bread, you know the drill).
HA! You didnt say no Mcdonalds!!!

I can't eat anything in McDonalds for two reasons: one the food is too greasy and I have to eat lower fat for a certin health condition I have, and two, I keep kosher.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2009, 10:24:31 PM »
Some seniors I hope are killed by Obama include: Jimmy-hat Farter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Teddy Kennedy, Nellie the Weasel, and Nelson Mandela (yimach schmam vezichram to all).

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2009, 10:26:48 PM »
Some seniors I hope are killed by Obama include: Jimmy-hat Farter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Teddy Kennedy, Nellie the Weasel, and Nelson Mandela (yimach schmam vezichram to all).

Remember "The Great Schlep": http://www.thegreatschlep.com/ ? Where all those idiotic Miami Beach Jewish Democratic seniors were so easily duped by their brainless NY grandchildren to vote for Obongo?

I WONDER HOW THEY'RE FEELING NOW?  :laugh:

(Obongo doesn't need their votes for re-election now, so he can afford to let socialized medicine's rationing do them in....by 2012 he will have let all the Mexican illegals become citizens, ditto for the Palestinians he wants to bring here, and they will supply the votes the Jewish seniors used to!)
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2009, 10:41:54 PM »
I am forced to watch every day as more and more services are cut for seniors.

In NY city VNS got the contract for the meals on wheels program as of 2/3/09. In the past two weeks hundreds of meals have not been delivered.  Other People are not getting the correct meals (Kosher meals or suger free etc.) The drivers are not given route sheets or an assistant to help and have 150 meals to delver in 4 hours with no GPS.

So after 4 hours the drivers simply stop and head for home with many meals not delivered. And to add insult to injurry, if a driver gets a ticket, it is the drivers problem. VNS will not cover it, and as the drivers are useing thier own cars they get the full brunt of the points.

Where is all the change and putting people first? How many seniors are going to die before this is stoped?

I want to cry.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2009, 07:15:08 AM »
Just a few weeks in office and look what this monster has done..